Simplest Ogg Streaming Clients for non-Unix Users?
Dr. Smeegee asks: "I recently set up an .ogg stream for beta testing, on a website chronicling my hometown's music scene in the 80's. I stream nothing but independent bands from the Evansville area. I chose IceCast using Ogg Vorbis for obvious reasons. The only problem is, I've been using ogg123 on BSD for so long, I didn't realize that streaming Ogg support is sketchy at best on the Windows and Mac platforms. Can anyone suggest good players? Or am I going to have to downgrade my sound and stream in .mp3?"
"I have provided my potential users links to these applications that claim to play .ogg streams:
Zinf
VLC for Windows
OggDS plugin for Windows Media Player
Winamp 2.81
Whamb
MacAmp Lite, and the
Quicktime Plug-In
However, am still getting complaints of flaky behaviour not linked to the stream itself. One Mac OS X user in particular, using MacAmp, could play the stream, but the system kept a download dialog up the whole time! Most, however, complain that the applications flat won't play streams."
Zinf
VLC for Windows
OggDS plugin for Windows Media Player
Winamp 2.81
Whamb
MacAmp Lite, and the
Quicktime Plug-In
However, am still getting complaints of flaky behaviour not linked to the stream itself. One Mac OS X user in particular, using MacAmp, could play the stream, but the system kept a download dialog up the whole time! Most, however, complain that the applications flat won't play streams."
You could try porting noXMMS, a console port of XMMS with no links to X. I don't know how tricky that would be though. I'm pretty sure it supports OGG streams though.
Otherwise Winamp is the obvious choice.
For instances like this where Linux has a good app, but Windows does not, could a WINE-like product be useful? I have a favourite Windows ad-filtering proxy that I've taken with me on my slow move to Linux. Perhaps a way to run Linux binaries on a Windows PC would be helpful to bridge a gap and even an aid to migration.
Why not ask both the people who listen to your stream what format they'd like the music in?
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AAC has a lossless mode, but the default is NOT lossless. I'm good friends with a Dolby engineer that worked for the company while they developed AAC. One internal thing that they didn't want to let out is that AAC is better in every way than Dolby Digital AC3.
Besides, for good lossless, we have Ogg FLAC.
As far as the frame jitter issue goes, any decent CD player that has a 16-frame buffer (a whole whopping 256 bytes -- could be cache on the D/A chip) could effectively eliminate jitter. Period. In modern CD-players, it's not an issue, regardless of what your friendly neighborhood audio store will say. Same with "greening" cd's. It's psuedoscience that sounds feasible, but in reality is a load of crap.
Lex orandi, lex credendi.
I use foobar to listen to OGG streams and it works quite well. If you are forced to stream from a Windows box, you can also use foobar to complete this task as well via the magic of plugins. Oddsock has pretty much everything you'd need to complete this portion of the task (for which the poster did not request, but someone else might want).