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IBM Smart Card OS On A 1MB Smart Card
michaelpapet.com writes "IBM has ported/developed their Javacard smart card operating system for Sharp's 1MB smart card. Read Sharp's announcement here.
Interesting features include: AES encryption; elliptical curve encryption; and 1MB of storage.
Sharp's smart card package claims to be almost as small as a normal smart card package. In an industry that can considers 64K of memory a luxury, 1MB is staggering. Read Sharp's original 1MB smart card announcement here. Is this a 'Build it and they will come...' kind of solution? How small is an 'almost as small' smart card IC package?"
No "640k is all you'll ever need" jokes, please!
I have to ask... if it runs Java,
Can it run Linux?
Interesting features include: AES encryption; elliptical curve encryption; and 1MB of storage.
Wow, 1MB of storage available on 1MB media, so that's like 0MB for the OS?
Also, why not start with a larger media? most digital cameras start at at least 16 MB. Something more than 1MB doesn't seem too unreasonable.
So, can this run PacMan?
One "640k should be enough for anybody" joke in the title should be enough for everybody.
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Check out the titanium card, I believe it has more than 1 meg of memory, and while we are on the topic of smart cards flip over to www.cardcoders.org
Dave sues IBM for having smart card programers...
its a joke son, laugh!
Do you have experience with Java Micro Edition?
Looks .. card-sized!
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Looks like a hardware announcement.
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Sorry for this, i couldn't help it: *** TIN FOIL HAT MODE ON An IC card, capable of running a tiny java - based OS, used for, say, storing my Credit card details . . . sounds like clock frequencies on the high Khz to low Mhz order, am I right? What about somebody detecting it's electromagnetic activity (when used) using a device like that "Tempest project" one that detects the EM fields produced by CRTs. Does this thing use too small a voltage to be picked up by an antenna at short range? *** TIN FOIL HAT MODE OFF
my camera has 512mb of storage on a card the size of a postage stamp (SD) and you expect me to be impressed with 1mb !
or maybe it took IBM 20years to write an OS for it while i can stick knoppix on a SD card right now
cripes people lets have a bit of vision
Dare I ask how much an Os on these cards will actually be used? Aside from performing on-card authentication procedures which can easily be crammed into less than 1mb, I can't see any use. Of course, it could be that I'm tired and talking out of my arse.
Our school is looking at getting smartcard authentication for entry. How does having 1mb on the card give an advantage over say 64kb?
How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex?
Do I have to plug it in and then wait 45 seconds for the java virtual machine to load before it lets me do anything?
Also, now that it has java, does that mean I can run Project Looking Glass?
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Why? Because you the user can not know if the computer you are typing on is safe ( think spyware, malware etc... ) .
Current smartcard technology has been problimatic because you can only store tiny amounts of data on them. By tiny I mean really small, shorter than a few SMS (text based cellphone) message amount of data. ( dont forget the file allocation table takes up space...)
You also dont really store data on them, they store data for you. Smart cards are basically little computers, that will only respond with the correct password to give you your data. Pretty clever really.
Now it looks like they will be able to store much more data, like a couple 1024 bit keys, your encrypted passwords and lots of other great stuff like that.
That is what it could be used for... but I am sure everyone is going to buy them because they can save their IE Favorites, and their Email Address book on it.
No I'm still waiting for it to finish loading...
20 years ago, Apple was figuring out how to squeeze a graphical operating system into 128K of RAM. Permanent storage that didn't cost 5 figures was in the 400K range.
In this day of multi-gigabyte OS installs, it's refreshing to see people return to the "lean and mean" OS mentality, even if it's out of necessity. Hell, even 10 years ago, you could still install an entire installation of Mac OS 7.6 on a set of 10-12 floppies.
Those were the days. Nice to see such "hack"ish talent used again.
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
Is this technology easily mass produced?
This is really just about adding high density flash to an existing smart card platform. Other then having alot of flash this (16 bit CPU, 4-8K RAM) card is just like most other JavaCards out there (such as in your cell phone or AMEX Blue card). The innovative smart cards these days have 32 bit CPUs such as the P9SC648 from Philips and ST22N256 from ST Micro. The Philips card is alot more powerful then IBM/Sharp's card and still has 512 KB Flash. The ST card has 256 KB Flash and 368 ROM and is shipping now for $4 to $5 in quantity.
The confusion here is that the average /.er doesn't know that a SmartCard is not a SmartMedia Card.
A SmartCard is NOT for holding pictures of your cat. It's primarily for identity verification. See
SmartCard
A SmartMedia Card IS for storing pictures of your cat or whatever else you might have. This is the large card that goes in SOME digital cameras. SmartMedia is a trademark of Toshiba. It is a flash memory format Please see
SmartMedia
Give it a few years, and everyone will be wanting 40 gig versions to store their mp3 collection on.
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Yeah, I wrote one of those back in '98...yeah, its still booting...
They are not really secure, the java card runs the applet in what is called "the sand box" basically protected memory that is held apart from the os, so the applet can run without accessing the os, or being able to attack the os..
Funny thing is if you blast the card with uv radiation (read a black light) you can force the switches in the card (by overloading with excess energy) to flip back and forth and cause the card to allow you to pop out of the sandbox.. =)
Suddenly you have access to the protected area of the smart card allowing you to dump the memory of the card read the stuff your not suppose to see).
Whoever posted the cardcoders link needs a slap, can someone please remove it.
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I'd pay a whole bunch for a small 200GB hard drive that I could hang on my keychain. Laptop drives are small, but not quite small enough. I'd put up with their extra size, but I haven't seen any break 80GB.
I'd just like to be able to plug my own hard drive into someone else's computer and have my own OS and files all ready. No smart cards, just smart technology. We should be able to build something like that by now...
I'm sure this card incorporates some form of elliptic curve cryptography, rather than "elliptical curve encryption", which doesn't mean anything AFAIK.
I guess all of the other mathematicians are watching election coverage rather than pointing out slashdot editing errors...
"American Distress now provides the Credit Card X2! Uses WiFi technology to play your favorite movies and songs to you with wireless headphones! Plus, includes new neural-link Counter Strike!" Actually, that would be pretty cool. At least the Wifi part, though that could be threatening to security.
Just give me the raw hardware, I'll program that.
but can it run linux?
If I overclock it will it melt my wallet? Where do you plug the power supply in? How long before some 133t cashier/bank teller pwns my card?
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I predict that by 2024, we will have 3 GHZ smart
cards with 250GB of storage, and the ability to run SmartCardDoom 3
When we will see readers in common equipment? :-).
It would be nice to have PGP and SSH key stored on my ID card
Surely I am not the only one old enough to remember The Vic-20 with its 5K RAM that greeted you with "3,583 bytes free." (which was left after necessary internal storage and buffers) And if you had an additional $150 you could buy the "luxury" of a 16K RAM Cartridge.
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What's next, you're going to tell me they can fit an entire operating system on a 20Kb ROM? That's preposterous.
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Did anyone notice that the date on the post was 11/13/2003?? Ya know..like a year agoish?
1MB may be amazing by todays standards but it's quite likely with constantly falling flash prices that we may see smart cards sporting 512MB+ in the near future... Possibly changing the way people use systems in corporate and public environments...
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As in, "how big a mallet do I need to pound it into a *standard* card receptacle?"
The lead for JCOP has told me that for flash based systems the OS is loaded into flash rather than rom since there is so much storage space. On EEPROM systems it is written in the ROM.
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