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Return of the Jedi DVD Detailed Changes
JSDopefish writes "The DVD news site DVDanswers.com is back with its final installment (3 of 3) of the series by Chris Gould showing in detail the changes between some the various iterations of the Star Wars original trilogy movies. Chris has screen captures from the original, the 1997 remaster, and the 2004 DVD versions, plus some audio clips for you to check out. One of the best lists of changes, mostly because of the pictures. Some of the changes listed here are The Sarlacc monster, Lightsaber consistency (again), as well as new things like even more celebrations added to the end, and an appearance by Hayden Christensen. There is an existing Part 1 covering A New Hope, and a Part 2 that covers The Empire Strikes back as well."
Or is this still a sub-release?
So there.
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The worst change by far is the adding of Hayden Christiansen to the 3 ghosts Luke sees at the end of the movie. Obi Wan didn't look like Ewan McGregor after he died, why did they make Anakin look like Hayden? Awful.
I believe there is a .torrent floating around that was ripped from the original laserdiscs, all ready for burning to DVD.
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A very good job going over each scene, describing the differences and a short opinion as to like/dislike.
His review should be the first place people go to when deciding whether to buy the 2004 release.
Of course, I still haven't seen the second prequel but then the ads didn't impress me that much so maybe I'm not missing anything.
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That's a great idea. How come no one else has asked for this? Does any one have Lucas' number?
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In case of Slashdotting, here is another site with all three of the movies and their changes.
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http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarsch
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That's quite a good run through but theres one thing he's missed. The reason all the vibrancy has been removed from the lightsabres is for added consistency ... with the dialogue.
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Just give these latest editions a few years to run through the sales cycle, and we'll see a "Mega-Diamond Director's Special Blend Extra Virgin Original Version" wherein you not only get the original films but also the ability to insert your own face on top of characters in the movie, including the family dog as Chewie.
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The original VHS version will be out on DVD (or whatever the popular format is at that point) when Lucas dies and his estate cashes in by making money anywhere they can (see the estate of Charles Atkins or Philip K Dick for examples).
...this time, Endor shoots first. Making the whole Rebel attack unnecessary. So to fill in for the gap, Lucas decided to put in an hour of digital dancing Ewoks, to make the film "more in line with the prequels"
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When I tell an object to delete this, am I killing it or telling it to kill me?
Seriously, I have half a mind to buy some bootleg DVDs of the original trilogy out of Hong Kong. If Lucas is intent on stealing my childhood, I might as well steal them back.
I understand his need for perfection. I like to go back and tweak old code I've written. But not if millions of people are already adore the originals. If I were him, I would have at least left the option to have the original cuts on the DVDs.
And people say piracy is a bad thing...
"Here we have a shot of Luke Skywalker standing over the Great Pit of Carkoon, nesting place of the all-powerful Sarlacc. The creature is basically a gigantic mouth, with rows of inwardly facing teeth and a number of sticky tentacles that it uses to snare unsuspecting prey."
Oh come on! It looks like an anus! You know it, and I know it!
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Ok.. so you took away some of the content and added more advertisements? That's a great way to STILL GET SLASHDOTTED.
If your site's dead, you don't get ad revenue.
I know he's supposed to be making a Star Wars TV Series, but that still won't compare to thoughts on Contract Labor on the Death Star, Silent Bob trying to pick up the tape through the use of the force and so many other references.
Film-crit is a time-honored tradition - DVD-crit is more recent, and possibly debatable.
Here it is in all it's glory, complete with Gungans shouting 'Wesa free!'...
I could just about tolerate everything else he's done to it, but that's the limit.
One question about those. Were the movies touched up at all for the laserdisc? I've seen those and in my old VHS copy I could see through parts of the speeders on Hoth, as in looking from the cockpit if it flew by a walker you could see the legs of the walker right through the bar at the side of the window. Also in space I could usually see colored boxes around the Tie Fighters and probably other space ships. In the rips from the laserdiscs I don't see any of that.
Contentwise it is original though.
you participate in the slashdotting of a star wars site...
what's even worse is if you use that achievement as a pickup line...
Get your torrents...
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In many interviews, the "fucked" versions are what George wanted the movie to be, but couldn't do it given the time/money constraints.
Then he's less of a genius than thousands of SciFi fanboys have made him out to be these last 20-odd years...
So Cheney is the emperor, Rumsfeld is JarJar, and in a few years one of Bush's twins will rise up and eventually destroy him. Uncanny.
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And Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
Moll.
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I wish when they re-did ROTJ for the DVD release, someone at ILM noticed that the shadows are completely wrong on the Tatooine segment where Jabba's sail barge moves flys across the dunes.
Look at this photo
Note that on the sail barge, the light source is somewhere forward and to the left.
Look at the dunes in the background. The light source is clearly somewhere behind and to the left.
Well, I suppose Tattooine does have two suns. They're special - one sun only illuminates ships, the other only illuminates natural landscapes. :-)
but really, if that's what they've looked like in your experience, you are SERIOUSLY going to the wrong bars to pick up chicks.
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Either that, or you need to get your woman some serious antibiotics!
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What you're supposed to feel is an iresistable desire to run and get your parents to buy you some merchandising.
If only Lucas hadn't made the mistake of getting a real director to make the second/fifth one, no one would be confused into thinking these were movies rather than adverts.
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Yeah, but ultimately isn't it a kids film?
That's not a criticism. I've heard some newer films slated for not meeting expectations lately: -
Alien V Predator - Fun film, no content, no oscar winning performances. Who cares? I, for one, wasn't expecting Shakespearean quality acting and depth of plot.
Van Helsing - Disappointing because I expected something with more calibre and got appalling dialogue. If I'd been expecting it I wouldn't care. But I wasn't.
Scooby Doo - appalling film, based on a fairly bad (totally out of ideas) cartoon. Both enjoyable.
My advice, know your movie. Don't go to watch "Cat in the Hat", whilst expecting to see "Last Passion of the Christ". You're only ever going to be disappointed...
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At the beginning of Jedi Rocks you can clearly hear Sy Snootles' voice while her microphone is still being heald at her side! Clearly evidence that she is jaggarm-synching.
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The first time I saw it in the theatre, I most distinctly remember Han saying "trust me" to Lando when he was about to shoot (as Han was recovering from hibernation sickness and was blind up until this point). I remember this because by this time in Harrison Ford's career, that line had become something of a trademark for him (sorta like Schwartzenegger's "I'll be back" line).
The second time I saw it in the theatre, and in fact every time I saw it in the theatre after that, the line was changed to a not entirely confidence inducing line of "It's all right, I can see a lot better now." Again, this struck me distinctly because of the association I had made with Harrison for to the "Trust me" line.
When I bought Jedi on VHS, Han said the "I can see a lot better now" line. Yet when I bought the remastered version on VHS (still original), several years later, the line was back to "Trust me".
Then when I saw saw the "Special edition" in the theatre, the line was again, "Trust me". It was "Trust me" every time I saw it in the theatre.
When I bought the VHS of the special edition, the line was again, suddenly back to the "I can see a lot better now" version.
So... I dunno what the heck is going on, and I probably never will... I'll just sit back and enjoy the story anyways.
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