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Megapixel Cameraphones Compared

prostoalex writes "MobileBurn published a 'horribly un-scientific' test of three megapixel cameraphones. The contenders are the Sony Ericsson S700i, the Siemens S65, and the Motorola V710." Sadly, none of the phones seem to be able to perfectly capture a mere school bus in image form.

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  1. Not the point... by mirko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course, it's only a phone, but it's a good tool aimed at taking both vocal and video notes.
    I use mine to take VGA pics and I am very happy with their imperfections...

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    1. Re:Not the point... by HellYeahAutomaton · · Score: 5, Funny
      I was curious about the domain you hold, so I poked up to the main site...


      http://www.vidovic.org/

      If that's a pic of your family its got "serial killers" written all over it.

  2. Lenses by DrVxD · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem with cameraphones is largely the lenses. They suck.
    For several reasons:
    1) They have to be small (it's a phone, it has to be easily pocketable)
    2) They have a very hard life compared with a "real" camera.
    3) Most people now view mobile phones as disposable items, replacing them every year or so, so there's not a whole lot of point in spending a lot of money on a decent lens.

    (Could this ever be the first RELEVANT first post on slashdot?)

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    1. Re:Lenses by accelleron · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'll have to agree with you on the first two points, but:

      "1) They have to be small (it's a phone, it has to be easily pocketable)"
      1. Sure, they have to be small, but so do digicams... putting the same lens system as that used in good "credit card" cameras couldn't hurt any.

      "2) They have a very hard life compared with a "real" camera."
      2. Once again, they could bother to learn from the real camera manufacturers. Would it kill them to put a cover over the lens - one that opens/shuts automatically like in most modern cameras.

      "3) Most people now view mobile phones as disposable items, replacing them every year or so, so there's not a whole lot of point in spending a lot of money on a decent lens."
      3. I am unsure about you, but I only buy a new phone every time my contract runs out, which is ~ every two years. The difference between a 1 and 2 year timeframe is significant, as in 1 year, technology hardly evolves much in phones (from the first cameraphones in 2k3 to the MP cameraphones - simply an enhancement, not a revolution), but in two years enough has changed to make the transition worthwhile. Besides, I hardly consider something I'll use for two years "disposabe"... as a matter of fact I've yet to dispose of a cell phone - most of them go to my family or as spare parts (LCD mod for my PC, for example)
      Anyway, I hardly have $250-500 per year to spend on the latest phone, so my current one had better be good enough to last me two years or more.

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  3. SE S700i... by kennycoder · · Score: 5, Informative

    seems to have excellent photo quality for a mobile phone. It has pretty much functions from normal digital camera that makes it very usefull. SE's S700i platform is the same from K700 phone but s700 supports memory sticks. You can read a very good review here:

    Phone
    Phone's camera

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  4. Perfect Basic Functions First by neomage86 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why are they building a phone w/ a three megapixel digital camera, when I still can't get a decent basic cell, that's small and has a weeks worth of battery per charge.

    1. Re:Perfect Basic Functions First by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I agree. A phones get more functions I don't need, the actual phone functions get worse. For that reason I still use an old Nokia 6310, which seems to be the best pure phone ever made. Long battery life, very good reception, good sound and good easy to use adresbook. Oh, and a keyboard someone with thich fingers can use, and good voice dialling when you've got you hands full.

  5. Word of advice... by kaleco · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't use your megapixel camera phone to take pictures of school busses. You'll get lynched.

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  6. Useless features worth billions of dollars by irikar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cell phone companies (and I work for one of them) are desperately trying to make money out of their cellular phone. One of the huge market is teenagers because they tend to want to differentiate themselves and they are willing to pay for that new and cool ring tone or SMS feature, or game, or color and what not.

    I personally couldn't have imagined someone paying for a ring tone on his/her cell phone; and the ring tone business is apparently worth billions of dollars these days. Those who saw this coming were quite clever I guess, but isn't it sad that people are spending money on crappy MIDI stuff for their cell phone?

    So cell phone companies pack their devices with close-to-useless features like MIDI player for polyphonic ring tones (many people at my work call it polymorphic 'cause that's what they remembered of C++ ;) ), cameras, pictures, games, and what not.

    But seriously, don't you think the majority of people will use those extra features a few times only, mostly to show others how cool and different their new toy is and then they'll forget about them because they are what they are: useless for a cell phone.

    I wonder how this confusion will end? The difference between your average PDA and a cell phone is what now? They both play MP3s, take pictures, are organizers, are wireless cell phones, support bluetooth, are WIFI enabled, can act as vibrators; but generally speaking, they do one thing hopefully right: your PDA is probably (hopefully) a better organizer than the organize feature on your cell phone; the rest is useless crap designed to differentiate the device on the market.

    When we received our new cell phone at work, everyone, for about a week, was spending countless hours on ring tones, taking pictures, playing that stupid mini putt game, enabling Bluetooth and wandering around for another Bluetooth soul willing to answer, etc., etc.

    Now; yeah sure everyone has his/her own "personal" ring tone differentiator, but the damn cell phone is used a cell phone, the extra features are now what they are: useless.

  7. Convergence isn't a bad thing! by Ianoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of people come out with comments like "I want a phone that's just a phone" or "I don't need/want these features when I can get better separate units that do the same thing". This is really silly.
    I don't know what the American market is like, but here in the UK, I got a Nokia 7610 for 50GBP (that's less than $90) on a very reasonable contract (500 free minutes per month and other goodies for 25GBP / $40 pm).
    Although I have a much better PDA (Palm Tungsten T3), and a much better digicam (Canon Powershot A80) and a much better MP3 player (iPod Mini), guess how much of the time I'm carrying all of these around with me? Practically ziltch. But, I do almost always have my phone with me, 24/7.
    So, the times I've forgotten my camera, the megapixel camera on the phone is great for a quick and dirty picture of something interesting or important. When I don't have room for my PDA, the phone is great for recording a memo or checking my diary (I sync both with the same desktop PIM, and it mostly works). It's also cool that when I don't have time to pack the iPod, I can take a short journey and still listen to almost a whole album at 128kbps from the 64MB SD card.
    The phone is a great phone by itself, with excellent contact management, call management, logging and other features. Since it was so cheap, these extras are essentially bonuses. It's also hardly bigger or heavier than a "normal" cellphone. It also has the trademark Nokia battery life of several days. This is quite sufficient even when on the road, especially since every third person you meet seems to have a universal Nokia charger stowed away somewhere.
    I look forward to the day when I can put my PDA, iPod and camera in the drawer forever, and I think we might only be a few years shy of it. Until then, I will enjoy my phone and its extras, using the additional separate devices when I want better quality.
    And thanks to my contract, I get a brand new smartphone every year.

  8. going to cut-n-paste this for future discussions: by Johnny318 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Three points:

    1. Cellphones come in different models, some with cameras, some without. Happily, the ones WITHOUT cameras are usually cheaper, which is great for those that don't want "extra stuff I will never use."

    2. Cameras on a cellphone are extremely useful because it's WITH YOU all the time, and with relative ease you can send a picture from where you took a picture to an arbitrary email address. Even on the low-end .3megapixel you can take useful pictures that may serve a purpose.

    3. The last thing you do before you die is crap your pants.

    My eyes ache from rolling to the back of my head whenever I click on a slashdot cellphone article, because it always goes down this road (and yes, this post is part of that).