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U.S. Continues Opposition to Kyoto Environmental Treaty

fenris_23 writes "The AP is reporting that President Bush has reiterated his opposition to the Kyoto Treaty despite President Putin's acceptance of the treaty and recent scientific evidence directly linking greenhouse emissions to arctic warming. 'President Bush strongly opposes any treaty or policy that would cause the loss of a single American job, let alone the nearly 5 million jobs Kyoto would have cost,' said James Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality."

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  1. Jobs?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "President Bush strongly opposes any treaty or policy that would cause the loss of a single American job"

    He doesn't need any treaties for that!

  2. Fishing anyone? by Ledora · · Score: 5, Funny

    Think of all the fishing jobs this will create when we have that much more water!

    1. Re:Fishing anyone? by wkitchen · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ah yes. This could create a whole new industry for the coastal towns of Tennessee.

  3. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 5, Funny
    President Bush strongly opposes any treaty or policy that would cause the loss of a single American job
    o_O Wait, why did he run for election then?
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    1. Re:zerg by Kristoffer+Lunden · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because he was against losing his single American job.

    2. Re:zerg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      President Bush strongly opposes any treaty or policy that would cause the loss of a single American job

      "Loss of lives however," he went on to say, "is negotiable".

  4. Solution by anagama · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tie bush to rock near the ocean. Let ocean take care of the problem. Granted, probably is a good idea to tie him so his head is down and feet in the air for two reasons. First, he'd probably float like a bobber "head up", and secondly, it will take a little while for the oceans to rise - best to solve the problem sooner.

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  5. Re:Pretty high threshold! by SkankinMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    shhh...stop thinking or they'll catch you!

  6. Re:Jobs by MikeXpop · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, you don't understand the mindset:

    You're either for the loss of jobs, or your for the creation of jobs. Now which are you?

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  7. A single American job by Blair16 · · Score: 4, Funny
    "President Bush strongly opposes any treaty or policy that would cause the loss of a single American job"

    By that he means his.
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  8. Re:I'm sure he'll love the jobs created.... by fossa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let the Dick Cheney jokes begin...

  9. FUD ? by Etyenne · · Score: 4, Funny
    President Bush strongly opposes any treaty or policy that would cause the loss of a single American job, let alone the nearly 5 million jobs Kyoto would have cost,' said James Connaughton

    How does Kyoto would make the US lose 5 millions jobs ? I would tend to believe the opposite : increased energy efficiency would make American industries more competitive and help fix the trade deficit.

    But who am I to oppose the American people God-given right to burn fossile fuel like there is no tomorrow ?

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  10. Re:That's an excuse and you know it by Angostura · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why should I bother about China or India's pollution problems? They are local to China and India (he said, pragmatically and hard-heartedly).

    Now if China started dumping its waste in my backyard then I would get interested. In the same way that I am interested in the U.S and Europe dumping their waste into the global atmospheric system.

  11. OMG! I am so surprised! by Limburgher · · Score: 1, Funny
    I, like, did totally NOT see that coming!

    Seriously, as an Amerikan citizen who voted to get W out, I hereby apologize to the rest of the world. We WILL do better next time, I promise.

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  12. the question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    in the dike-building industry based on sea-level change, for instance......


    but can we get the government to go dutch on paying for them?
  13. Re:Let's compare false dichotomies... by startled · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now, I realize that you'll tear apart my argument because "George Bush is evil" and "the US economy doesn't create any value to the world." Obviously those aren't valid arguments any way you slice it.

    While I admire your proactive stance, it's generally considered poor form (not to mention confusing) to set up straw men for hypothetical future arguments. There's a shortage of straw men due to excessive over-use, so please, treat them like an antibiotic: wait to use them until you need them!

    This message was brought to you by Straw Men Against the Constant Killing of Straw Men.

  14. Re:I'm sure he'll love the jobs created.... by whovian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or continue to allow a steady labor force to wander across the southern US border.

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  15. Re:Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    We need less people in the world. That way we won't need to pollute too much.


    So, are you going to be one of the people who dies to pollute our world less?
  16. Voter Geography by Roger_Wilco · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's quite clear what he's trying to do --- when the sea levels rise, the first US folks to drown will be those pinkos that voted against him, most of which live on the coasts. True, God-fearing, Republican-voting Americans live in the interior, and will be safe. They'll even be well armed to prevent a huge influx of Aetheist Commies from Massachusetts!

    (It's a joke, darnit.)

  17. Well, obviously by redcaboodle · · Score: 2, Funny

    since Bush has probably patented "causing the loss of American jobs" and doesn't want anyone to infringe on his patent.

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  18. Re:Jobs by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reminds me vaguely of this.

    For a taste:

    "US Suspects World not putting US Interests first"

    Whitehouse evidence

    International politicians and the media have blasted the U.S. for abandoning the Kyoto global warming treaty, despite the fact that the U.S. has explained the treaty would not be good for the U.S. economy."

    Jedidiah.

  19. Re:Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    We need less people in the world. That way we won't need to pollute too much.
    the world would be a better place with a few more trees and a few less bushes.
  20. Re:Jobs by AvantLegion · · Score: 4, Funny
    Following Mr. Bush's politics, no treaty against child pornography, prostitution or drug dealing should be signed: after all, those things create jobs.

    *sniffle* God bless America.

  21. Re:That's an excuse and you know it by Lost2Home · · Score: 3, Funny
    For the intelligence-impaired, the set of "Americans" does not contain all members of the set of "all citizens of Earth."

    <sarcasm>However judging by the last election results, the set of all Americans does include a sizable fraction of all the intelligence-impaired citizens of Earth</sarcasm>

  22. Re:Jobs by ThreeE · · Score: 2, Funny

    There's something north of America? Huh. That's pretty neat. I wish them good luck as they apply for statehood.

  23. Put the Blue States Under the Ocean by srobert · · Score: 2, Funny

    See the electoral college map. See how many blue states are along the coasts. Melting the polar ice caps will put those states under water. The Bush Administration favors policies that will cause global warming which in turn melts the ice caps. Coincidence, ... ;)

  24. Re:Actually there are at least two others. by Atzanteol · · Score: 4, Funny

    rectennas

    Just one of those words one can't say without smirking...

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  25. Re:Actually there are at least two others. by rduke15 · · Score: 3, Funny

    rectennas?

    You want me to get my energy from space, through an antenna in my rectum?

  26. Re:You're right by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 2, Funny

    Defend from what, sadam's mass destruction weapons?

  27. Re:Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    But meanwhile the trailer trash breed like rabbits and vote Republican....

  28. Re:Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    We need less people in the world.

    Trust me, our leaders are working on that.

  29. Re:Jobs by Winkhorst · · Score: 3, Funny

    Using George's logic (assuming what comes out of the wanker's mouth has ANYTHING to do with logic), the flooding of the Potomac and the consequent submerging of the capitol of the United States will be good because it will create jobs. Take this logic a little further and murder becomes good because it creates jobs for undertakers. Rape? Great! It creates jobs for doctors and psychiatrists. Diarrhea? You got it! Jobs for toilet paper manufacturers. You got bad schools? Stop complaining! It's creating jobs for tutors and Evelyn Woodhead reading programs. Bubonic Plague? Bring it on! More jobs for detergent chemists. Water in the gasoline? A bonanza for mechanics.

    Dear God, deliver me from these chimpanzees who can't get the 2 1/2 millennia old basic principles of logic into their little anthropoid brains.

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  30. Less People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    We need less people in the world.

    Hmm... the birthrate is falling and population declining in western nations like the US, Canada and Western Europe. It's still exploding in India and China.

    What to do? Starve large segments of the population and conduct infantacide? Oh wait, China does that. Let AIDS run rampant and kill off the undesirables, while depriving them of health care? Oh wait, India and most African nations do that.

    And curiously, the population explosion continues predominantly in command economies. Go figure! Free market economies (aka evil capitalism) have declining populations. How is this possible?

  31. And the award for by ewe2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Best King Canute No Ocean's Gonna Stop Me Now Head In The Sand performance goes to.....(drum roll)

    The United States of America!!! Woohoo!!

    HA HA look they're still in character! No wait don't point that ICBM at me! Here, have some more oil! Nice superpower....

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  32. Re:Jobs by RicktheBrick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imangine an underground world where all houses and roads are underground. Imangine a world where one does not need to worry about the weather. Imangine a world where no one can go to anyone house unless they are invited first. We could build that world and drasticly reduce our energy requirements and thus reduce our polution. We could have automaticly driven electrical vehicles with no deaths or injuries. We could order all our goods and have them delivered to our homes. We could even do alot of our work at home and drasticly reduce our need for transportation. Once we build this world all future generations will look back at that time as the beginning of a new era.

  33. Re:Plain numbers: US can improve efficiency by Kohath · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who has the interest of keeping US production inefficient?

    - Unions.
    - The anti-nuclear power crowd.
    - Trial lawyers.
    - Anti-corporate types (more efficient means more profits, can't have that).
    - The welfare-rights crowd.
    - Government regulators.
    - Class warriors (more efficient industry might make the rich richer, can't have that).
    - Diversity celebrators.
    - Minimum wage advocates.
    - OSHA
    - NIMBY and BANANA environmentalists
    - The anti-globalization crowd
    - The anti-outsourcing crowd
    - etc, etc, etc

  34. Global Warming? Do you want boring or exciting? by slightlyspacey · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's been about 25 years since I looked at it, but at the time the mechanism for global warming went something like this:

    Sunlight comes through the atmosphere as visible radiation which is transparent to the CO2 molecule. It strikes the earth and is re-radiated as infared radiation. This is opaque to CO2 and as a result, CO2 absorbs this radiation and holds onto it -- the Green House Effect. So, how do we control the Green House Effect? There are two, separate distinct ways:

    a) Control the amount of Greenhouse gas emissions - the Kyoto protocol (boring)

    or

    b) Control the amount of sunlight entering the atmosphere, striking the earth and re-radiating as infared radiation (interesting possibilities)

    I personally like b) because we can shift the blame for global warming:

    1) We can blame the environmentalists for Global Warming. Those pesky clean air laws eventually allowed more sunlight to strike the earth. Allowing factories to continue billowing thick clouds of black soot would OBVIOUSLY lead to a reduction in the amount of sunlight striking the earth's surface - PROBLEM SOLVED.

    2) We can blame the anti-nuke crowd for Global Warming. The 1963 Limited Test Ban Treaty essentially outlawed atmospheric, underwater, and outer space testing of nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons, among their many other wonderful attributes, kick up large amount of dust and debris into the atmosphere which PREVENTS sunlight from reaching the earth's surface. Remember Carl Sagan and his "Nuclear Winter" scenario? Regular distribution of nuclear explosions and carefully placed nuclear charges down volcanoes would keep Global Warming in check - PROBLEM SOLVED

    Another avenue to solve Global Warming is to change the albedo or reflectance of earth's surface. The more sunlight is reflected harmlessly back into space rather than absorbed by the earth and re-radiated as infared radiation, the better control we will have over Global Warming. Two Words: Large mirrors. Remember the Bond flicks, "Diamonds are Forever", "The Man With The Golden Gun", and "Die Another Day"? Those films made use of the ol concentrated-sunlight-leads-to-world-domination ploy. Same idea here but in reverse.

    Feel free to add any suggestions :)

  35. My God, you're right! by Namarrgon · · Score: 4, Funny
    Survival is about taking care of #1. We're not all one big happy family. I'm going to make sure that I survive and my family survives regardless of the cost to anyone or anything else.

    Back shortly - I'm sneaking off next door to get dinner from my neighbour's fridge.

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