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Novell Pulls Out Their Ace Against SCO

mattOzan writes "Groklaw is reporting that Novell has just filed a reply with an exhibit in support of their motion to dismiss SCO's complaint. The exhibit consists of "1995 minutes from the corporate kit of a meeting of the Board of Directors, which clearly and unequivocably say that Novell was to retain the UNIX copyrights in the sale to Santa Cruz that year."

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  1. Does that mean . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    . . . I owe Novell $699?!

    1. Re:Does that mean . . . by Zeebs · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not quite, it appears that Novell has patented artificialy inflating stock prices with FUD. So you owe Novel $699 for each share of SCO you own.

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    2. Re:Does that mean . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      may i introduce you? asapien, paragraph. paragraph, asapien.

  2. well guess that's it by kalpol · · Score: 5, Funny

    Party's over, let's go home, if there's no SCO to bash there's just no joy in living.

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    1. Re:well guess that's it by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Go home" yourself. I've been glued to this terminal for over four years; I'm not leaving Slashdot yet!

    2. Re:well guess that's it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I've been glued to this terminal for over four years

      Dave - you're still there? Jeez, sorry we forgot to give you the solvent! Did you graduate?

    3. Re:well guess that's it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gate's didn't name a OS after himself, huh? What was that OS between 98 and 2K, oh yeah, ME!

    4. Re:well guess that's it by jusdisgi · · Score: 5, Funny

      At least Bill Gates didn't have the ego to name an OS after himself like Linus did!

      Perhaps that's because he didn't write it?

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    5. Re:well guess that's it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Bill Gates named his company after his genitals.

  3. Yes, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    and we'll be suing /. to get your IP, you realize?

    1. Re:Yes, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Good luck. I'm connected with IPX.

  4. SCO's reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Look Novell must have pulled it from their sleeve! They're cheating! We own Unix! Pay us a bajillion dollars! ... mm... Bye now."

    SCO's own McBride then retires to the Bahamas where he enjoys a life of luxury until the next major hurricane, which demolishes his house and sends him to the great beyond, not before being tormented by a certain red-colored pitchfork-toting mascot (Oh and being rejected by the Great Penguin in the Sky).

    1. Re:SCO's reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      the Great Penguin in the Sky
      Penguins can't fly silly.
    2. Re:SCO's reply by weapon · · Score: 4, Funny

      You have not played tuxracer enough

      Weapon

  5. What now? by micromoog · · Score: 4, Funny
    All right, the election's over, SCO is dead . . . what now? Emacs vs. vi?

    p.s. vi kicks emacs' ass

    1. Re:What now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      and now with vi emulation, emacs can kick it's own bloated ass

    2. Re:What now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      p.s. vi kicks emacs' ass

      You've got that right!

    3. Re:What now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Emacs reminds me of Street Fighter II, you have to hit all kinds of buttons just to do the most trivial things.

    4. Re:What now? by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Awk is just an alias for perl -MEmul::Awk -lpe, and sed is the same but with -MEmul::Sed.

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    5. Re:What now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Bush vs. Reality. Unless you want to be deported to Gitmo for "believing" in evolution.

    6. Re:What now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Only girly men USians use Notepad.

    7. Re:What now? by Ded+Bob · · Score: 3, Funny

      Battle of bits: 1 is better than 0.

    8. Re:What now? by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 4, Funny
      Gotta have sixty fingers to create a new file, and two more if the filename includes a capital letter.

      Umm, hello? That's what the footpedals are for. geez, n00b.

      -truth

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    9. Re:What now? by Flatline_hun · · Score: 1, Funny

      EDLIN! The most unbloathed editor!

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  6. Sounds exciting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    1995 minutes from the corporate kit of a meeting of the Board of Directors
    I'm sure they will be on the edge of their seat the entire time.
  7. Re:Dumb question... by empaler · · Score: 5, Funny

    OTOH it proves the credibility of SCO and how one should trade with them (both eyes open and a taperecorder running)...

  8. Mental image coming to mind by TWX · · Score: 4, Funny

    I played a lot of Warcraft II back in the mid to late nineties. The mental image of a bunch of Troll Axethrowers surrounding an enemy's farm, the farm in flames, with a continuous stream of axes flying into it just sticks so well in this case...

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  9. Executive endurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    1995 minutes from the corporate kit of a meeting of the Board of Directors, which clearly and unequivocably say that Novell was to retain the UNIX copyrights in the sale to Santa Cruz that year.


    Damn, a 33 hour meeting? I can hardly resist falling asleep after twenty minutes in a meeting.
  10. Private conference... by Spoing · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shortly after disclosure, Novell reps were seen flexing thier arms, feigning a body punch toward SCO reps, and scratching their chins. Something like 'you my itch now' was muttered by a few from Novell. The SCO representives skulked away without comment.

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  11. 1995 minutes? by datadriven · · Score: 0, Funny

    1995 minutes from the corporate kit of a meeting of the Board of Directors, which clearly and unequivocably say that Novell was to retain the UNIX copyrights in the sale to Santa Cruz that year.

    So is that 33.25 hours of a meeting, or was that the minutes of a meeting that happened in 1995?

  12. They didn't have the money... by MarcQuadra · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...to fix their copy machine until yesterday when Microsoft settled with them for $0.5BN?

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    1. Re:They didn't have the money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Perhaps the conversation went like this.

      MSFT to NOVL: "Please don't kill SCO."
      NOVL to MSFT: "But they're killing our business.
      MSFT to NOVL: "We'll pay you. Lots."
      NOVL to MSFT: "But we're in it for the long term business, not a one-time bribe".
      MSFT to NOVL: We'll give you Unix. Heck, we'll work our IP so you're the _only_ legal unix/linux provider.
      NOVL to MSFT: "How much is lots".
      MSFT to NOVL: "I've got half a billion of change in my pocket"
      NOVL to MSFT: "OK".

  13. SCOinfomercial.con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I find all I am required to understand at SCOinfomercial.con.
    All important court documents are available. If they are not there, we simply do not need to know about them.
    And there is the pure unadulterated truth to the lawsuits. SCO would not have brought these lawsuits unless they were right, so we should believe everything they say.
    I implore you all to stop this blasphemy of the gospel of Darl.

  14. I don't belive it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I need to see proof.
    wait nevermind, those minutes could be doctored for all I care.

    Continue with the litigating boys

    Yours sincerely,
    ~Darl McBride

  15. Moderators on crack ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    You see if you don't have an unicode browser or don't understand Japanese, then don't moderate this post.
    This is in fact a 250 year old poem of Hinkashu Yunorito which perfectly comments this situation.
    Please don't moderate something down because you don't understand it.
    Thanks.

  16. Ok by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Funny
    127.0.0.1. Go ahead, I dare you to ssh in or telnet in and do a
    rm -rf /
    or
    del *
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    1. Re:Ok by jusdisgi · · Score: 3, Funny

      or del /s c:\*.*

      Somehow I get the feeling that isn't likely to work on a machine you just ssh'd into...

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  17. CBS Breaks Story: Meeting Minutes Are Authentic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny


    According to CBS, the Novell meeting minutes are genuine and are actually from the year 1995 despite the fact that they contain modern Agfa and Bitstream fonts.

    sorry, couldn't resist ;)

  18. What? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 3, Funny

    Something is being "over-hyped" on Slashdot? Never.

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  19. The Big SCObowski... by ErnstKompressor · · Score: 5, Funny

    NOVELL: They finally did it. They killed my fucking car.

    DARL: Vee vant zat money, Lebowski.

    SCOLAWYER1: Ja, uzzervize vee kill ze girl.

    SCOLAWYER2: Ja, it seems you forgot our little deal, Lebowski.

    NOVELL: You don't have the fucking girl, dipshits. We know you never did. So you've got nothin' on my Johnson.

    LINUXUSERS: Are these the Nazis, Walter?

    IBM: They're nihilists, Donny, nothing to be afraid of.

    DARL: Vee don't care. Vee still vant zat money or vee fuck you up.

    SCOLAWYER1: Ja, vee still vant ze money. Vee sreaten you.

    IBM: Fuck you. Fuck the three of you.

    NOVELL: Hey, cool it IBM.

    IBM: There's no ransom if you don't have a fucking hostage. That's what ransom is. Those are the fucking rules.

    DARL: Zere ARE no ROOLZ!

    IBM: NO RULES! YOU CABBAGE-EATING SONS- OF- BITCHES--

    SCOLAWYER1: His girlfriend gafe up her toe! She sought we'd be getting million dollars! Iss not fair!

    IBM: Fair! WHO'S THE FUCKING NIHILIST HERE! WHAT ARE YOU, A BUNCH OF FUCKING CRYBABIES?!

    NOVELL: Hey, cool it IBM. Listen, pal, there never was any money. The big SCObowski gave me an empty briefcase, man, so take it up with him.

    IBM: AND I'D LIKE MY UNDIES BACK!

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  20. There's only one word for this by serutan · · Score: 3, Funny

    SCOwned!!!

  21. Re:Dumb question... by Anomalous+Communard · · Score: 2, Funny

    not all Utah software companies are idiots

    Some of them are smart enough to relocate to Massachusetts (or at least their corporate headquarters):

    Novell Corporate Headquarters and Principal Executive Offices
    404 Wyman Street, Suite 500
    Waltham, MA 02451
    Main: 781-464-8000

  22. Re:Dumb question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    But folks, I have to tell yout in the bullshit department a businessman can't hold a candle to a clergyman. Because when it comes to bullshit. Big-time, major-league bullshit. You have to stand in awe -in awe!- of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims: religion. No contest.
    Religion -easily- has the Greatest Bullshit Story Ever Told! Think about it: religion has actually convinced people -many of them adults- that there's an invisible man who lives in the sky and watches everything you dot every minute of every day. And who has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.
    And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to remain and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till the end of time. But he loves you!
    He loves yout and he needs money! He always needs money. He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, but somehow. ..he just can't handle money. Religion takes in billions of dollars, pays no taxes, and somehow always needs a little more. Now you talk about a good bullshit story. _Holy shit!

  23. Re:Dumb question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    THE BOVINE FECES TRILOGY
    E Pluribus Bullshit
    Every time you're exposed to advertising in America you're reminded that
    this country's most profitable business is still the manufacture, packaging,
    distribution, and marketing of bullshit. High-quality, grade-A, prime-cut,
    pure American bullshit.
    And the sad part is that most people seem to believe bullshit only comes
    from certain predictable sources: advertising, politics, salesmen, and
    lawyers. Not true. Bullshit is everywhere. Bullshit is rampant. Parents are
    full of shit, teachers are full of shit, clergymen are full of shit, and law
    enforcement is full of shit. This entire country is completely full of
    shit-and always has been. From the Declaration of Independence to the
    Constitution to the "Star Spangled Banner," it's nothing more than one big,
    steaming pile of red-white-and-blue, all-American bullshit.
    Think of how it all started: America was founded by slave owners who
    informed us, "All men are created equal." All "men," except Indians,
    niggers, and women. Remember, the founders were a small group of unelected,
    white, male, land-holding slave owners who also, by the way, suggested their
    class be the only one allowed to vote. To my mind, that is what's known as
    being stunningly-and embarrassingly-full of shit. And everybody bought it.
    All Americans bought it.
    And those same Americans continue to show their ignorance with all this
    nonsense about wanting their politicians to be honest. What are these
    cretins thinking? Do they realize what they're wishing for? If honesty were
    suddenly introduced into American life, everything would collapse. It would
    destroy this country, because our system is based on an intricate and
    delicately balanced system of lies.
    And I think that somehow, deep down, Americans understand this. That's why
    they elected -and reelected- Bill Clinton. Because given a choice, Americans
    prefer their bullshit right out front, where they can get a good, strong
    whiff of it. Clinton may have been full of shit, but at least he let you
    know it. And people like that.
    In '96, Dole tried to hide his bullshit, and he lost. He kept saying, "I'm a
    plain and honest man." People don't believe that. What did Clinton say? He
    said, "Hi folks! I'm completely full of shit, and how do you like that?" And
    the people said, "You know what? At least he's honest. At least he's honest
    about being completely full of shit."

  24. Re:Dumb question... by jusdisgi · · Score: 3, Funny

    The company rarely has everything in the same system for anything - source control, document management, personnel databases, whatever you can imagine, they aren't doing it consistently.

    Dude...just because you work for the phone company doesn't mean the rest of us do...

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  25. Haha - Nice Drugs by Mars+Ultor · · Score: 2, Funny
    Slashdot should just ignore SCO stories, especially minor ones like this.


    Haha - you make funny - but here on /., the slashbots won't leave SCO alone until they have videotaped evidence of Darl statues being pulled over with big ropes and a written confession from M$FT saying that it was actually their doing all along.

    Don't believe me? I'm not saying that SCO isn't slimey evil, just that it sounds like your smoking the good stuff.
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  26. Re:Trump card? Submitter is a bit off... by Cow+Jones · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course, that's just good lawyering, and they do have good lawyers.

    Score: -1, Oxymoron

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  27. Re:Dumb question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
    GWB never said "Mission accomplished!"

    That's right. He said "Mission accomplified!".
    Now watch this drive!

  28. 1995 minutes by cylcyl · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've sat in on some long meetings, but this one takes the cake!