Again, another AC chooses to grace us with some mild insults, a meaningless fictional account of medical school and still doesn't accept the fact that PCPro mag are morons.
Once more, for the record, I originally posted a video because I could not believe it would take nearly 3 minutes to do 'whatever' was done in the ad. I am the first to acknowledge that advertising is known for treading a fine line between truth and lie. And the first to disavow some reverence for the iPhone. The recreation was misleading. End of story.
As for the ASA, obsessing over the minute inaccuracies of a product presentation -- in the face of so many products that even more obviously stretch the truth -- makes one a pedant, Sherlock.
I get that the UK have a stick up their ass about Apple products. Somehow the only news reports involving ASA that get picked up by/. have to deal with Apple "stretching the truth". I remember the whole "Supercomputer" flap...
It is all more of the same pointless 'hand-wringing'.
Riddle me this, Batman... if something has a visible disclaimer, how can you say it is willfully misrepresenting the truth "in order to deceive?"
Do the ASA allow car ads where the cars are speeding around, even thought there is a disclaimer saying "professional driver on a closed course. Do not try this."?
As you said, Apple's stupid ad -- I don't know how I got myself into being the apple ad-campaign defender -- won't cause deaths, etc... is stupid. I was only make the point that PCPro Mag managed to be both stupider and more dishonest.
Again I ask, do the ASA question the motives of those who file complaints? Who competes with O2 in the UK? What handset manufacturers have seen the biggest hit to their sales since the iPhone was released?
I dare you to post any identifying info about yourself so that we may actually have a worthwhile conversation without your having the benefit of anonymity. Then I would like to see you say the same thing and stand behind your empty rhetoric. Not only are you way off base, I am not even upset by your childish, snide remarks. I do wish you well on this Thanksgiving and hope you might think twice, next time, and reflect on the state of the world before you unnecessarily fill it with your meaningless anger and venom. I could care less about Apple, but I do care about right and wrong and do my best to share factually correct information to those who care to listen.
I was testing the exact same thing. PCPro stated they were using WiFi. I am not arguing the validity of the ad, so much as the PCPro 'recreation.' I have not seen the original ad, other than the inset window in the comparison and only did my best to follow the same sequence of events: open web browser and click a link, close then open google maps and click the GPS 'locate' function, waiting for it to 'zero in', close then open an email, view an attached PDF then wait for and answer an incoming call. From what I can tell, that is exactly what happens in the ad, no typing in and such seemed to occur.
As to pre-generated data, I do not know what you mean, as I did everything live, on-the-fly. Another poster mentioned something salient, which is that the voice over on the ad might be describing actions that are not exactly represented in the spot, but again, there is supposedly a disclaimer anyways, which makes the whole issue rather pedantic and nit-picking on behalf of the UK ad watchdog group.
Does the UK tolerate 'teeth whitening' ads? Mileage claims for cars? This just seems so ridiculous and from the article it is clear that it only takes a dozen or so 'complaints' from god-knows-who to get an ad pulled. I don't suppose any of those 17 complaints came from other carriers or manufacturers...
...especially those who insult me, but to make it clear, it is not a question of the ad being truthful so much as PCPro being full of shit. If you cannot understand the difference, then you are the dense one. If I can recreate the series of actions in 48 secs on my first 'attempt' then PCPro is clearly distorting the 'truth'.
Unless you are simply biased, and note I am the first to say that the iPhone is not the second coming, to criticize any company's advertising on such a tiny, nit-picking issue is moronic. It is not like they said it will cook you breakfast. And I have no doubt I could pare down a few more seconds in order to have an actual 30 second commercial spot. AND they had a fucking disclaimer for christ sake...
...is that I shot the video, edited it in iMovie and uploaded it to youtube in about as much time as PCPro took to 'recreate' the ad in the first place... all of about 5 minutes.
That in itself is a better ad for Apple than anything they have come up with in some time ^_^
...Dishonest, or just incompetent. The same goes for the UK Ad council responsible for demanding the ad be pulled. I couldn't help but make a video this morning to see what the results should really look like...
Try 48 secs and that is with me flubbing a bit, waiting for GPS to lock and timing a call to myself.
Haven't had enough coffee yet, but isn't the area of a 14.1" diagonal screen the same regardless of whether its 4:3 or 16:10? isn't a 16:10 screen simply wider and shorter than a 4:3 screen?
I think if you add the landline and mobile percentages togther, you have 100% "Telephone" usage -- It's like asking if you get your e-mail "wirelessly" or "wired"...
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Again, another AC chooses to grace us with some mild insults, a meaningless fictional account of medical school and still doesn't accept the fact that PCPro mag are morons.
Once more, for the record, I originally posted a video because I could not believe it would take nearly 3 minutes to do 'whatever' was done in the ad. I am the first to acknowledge that advertising is known for treading a fine line between truth and lie. And the first to disavow some reverence for the iPhone. The recreation was misleading. End of story.
As for the ASA, obsessing over the minute inaccuracies of a product presentation -- in the face of so many products that even more obviously stretch the truth -- makes one a pedant, Sherlock.
I get that the UK have a stick up their ass about Apple products. Somehow the only news reports involving ASA that get picked up by /. have to deal with Apple "stretching the truth". I remember the whole "Supercomputer" flap...
It is all more of the same pointless 'hand-wringing'.
Riddle me this, Batman... if something has a visible disclaimer, how can you say it is willfully misrepresenting the truth "in order to deceive?"
Do the ASA allow car ads where the cars are speeding around, even thought there is a disclaimer saying "professional driver on a closed course. Do not try this."?
As you said, Apple's stupid ad -- I don't know how I got myself into being the apple ad-campaign defender -- won't cause deaths, etc... is stupid. I was only make the point that PCPro Mag managed to be both stupider and more dishonest.
Again I ask, do the ASA question the motives of those who file complaints? Who competes with O2 in the UK? What handset manufacturers have seen the biggest hit to their sales since the iPhone was released?
I dare you to post any identifying info about yourself so that we may actually have a worthwhile conversation without your having the benefit of anonymity. Then I would like to see you say the same thing and stand behind your empty rhetoric. Not only are you way off base, I am not even upset by your childish, snide remarks. I do wish you well on this Thanksgiving and hope you might think twice, next time, and reflect on the state of the world before you unnecessarily fill it with your meaningless anger and venom. I could care less about Apple, but I do care about right and wrong and do my best to share factually correct information to those who care to listen.
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I was testing the exact same thing. PCPro stated they were using WiFi. I am not arguing the validity of the ad, so much as the PCPro 'recreation.' I have not seen the original ad, other than the inset window in the comparison and only did my best to follow the same sequence of events: open web browser and click a link, close then open google maps and click the GPS 'locate' function, waiting for it to 'zero in', close then open an email, view an attached PDF then wait for and answer an incoming call. From what I can tell, that is exactly what happens in the ad, no typing in and such seemed to occur.
As to pre-generated data, I do not know what you mean, as I did everything live, on-the-fly. Another poster mentioned something salient, which is that the voice over on the ad might be describing actions that are not exactly represented in the spot, but again, there is supposedly a disclaimer anyways, which makes the whole issue rather pedantic and nit-picking on behalf of the UK ad watchdog group.
Does the UK tolerate 'teeth whitening' ads? Mileage claims for cars? This just seems so ridiculous and from the article it is clear that it only takes a dozen or so 'complaints' from god-knows-who to get an ad pulled. I don't suppose any of those 17 complaints came from other carriers or manufacturers...
...especially those who insult me, but to make it clear, it is not a question of the ad being truthful so much as PCPro being full of shit. If you cannot understand the difference, then you are the dense one. If I can recreate the series of actions in 48 secs on my first 'attempt' then PCPro is clearly distorting the 'truth'.
Unless you are simply biased, and note I am the first to say that the iPhone is not the second coming, to criticize any company's advertising on such a tiny, nit-picking issue is moronic. It is not like they said it will cook you breakfast. And I have no doubt I could pare down a few more seconds in order to have an actual 30 second commercial spot. AND they had a fucking disclaimer for christ sake...
Thanks for participating...
...is that I shot the video, edited it in iMovie and uploaded it to youtube in about as much time as PCPro took to 'recreate' the ad in the first place... all of about 5 minutes.
That in itself is a better ad for Apple than anything they have come up with in some time ^_^
...Dishonest, or just incompetent. The same goes for the UK Ad council responsible for demanding the ad be pulled. I couldn't help but make a video this morning to see what the results should really look like...
Try 48 secs and that is with me flubbing a bit, waiting for GPS to lock and timing a call to myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwbZkkJhfcA
I don't even like my iPhone that much, but there are better reasons to dislike it than simply fabricated, untruthful criticisms.
Still limping along with a PS2 and a Wii. Which platform, today?
Haven't had enough coffee yet, but isn't the area of a 14.1" diagonal screen the same regardless of whether its 4:3 or 16:10? isn't a 16:10 screen simply wider and shorter than a 4:3 screen?
It is Michael Bay who is ensuring that his BAD MOVIES hurt the overall market regardless of the their actual merit or popularity...
"Ducted propulsion" on a navy demonstrator vehicle...
...is this a secret?
I think if you add the landline and mobile percentages togther, you have 100% "Telephone" usage -- It's like asking if you get your e-mail "wirelessly" or "wired"...
... just kidding :)
...Brownback, Huckabee, and Tancredo...
allofmp3 is dead. Long live allofmp3...
... at least...
Could they charge more for DVI/HDMI cables? I remember looking at DVI's at BB once? Freaking insane...
The cable costs a fifth of the system...
Too bad flikr is down... ...scheduled maintenance my arse -- they were /.-ed...
Sorry...
and what if you were one of the folks who bought one of the first million iPods... are you still a sheep or are you a shepard?
...oh, that's right... your business sucks...
More importantly, why does anyone care if someone is a sheep? Go mind your own fucking business...
Are you modeling the universe? Mapping the human genome? Folding proteins (and I'm not talking about 'folding@home').
I hate to break it to you, but 64-bit isn't 'faster' than 32-bit...
...you know, for kids..
At this point, why not have all the companies merge into one mega-corp...
Micro-App-AM-Dell-Tel-Palm-Ony...
or 're-re-think different'...or just 'redif'...
Parent is on the money...
This round of Intelimacs are essentially consumer models...
Wait for Merom... Until then enjoy Quad goodness...
Trolltouch already makes a touch screen enabled iBook...
Super-low-profile, really cool...