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Dell May Try AMD Chips For Some Servers
LarsWestergren writes "According to InfoWorld, Dell may be close to adopting AMD processors. Don't get your hopes up too early though. It is mainly for servers (and possibly "gaming"?) since AMD doesn't have the manufacturing capacity to supply Dell with enough processors for the desktop. Furthermore, Dell have said similar things before, possibly to put pressure on Intel and get better deals from them. Still, this is definitely a PR win for AMD." Intel, though, has a lot more ad dollars to contribute.
Not that I'm fond of them as a company or anything, but my employer buys thousands of HP's servers, and HP has been selling Opteron-based servers (e.g.) for some while now. Even if AMD never achieved sufficient penetration with ia32, there's some hope that they'll gain some of the ephermeral credibility by being first to market with a workable ia32-compatible 64-bit architecture.
It's not. AMD's market cap is 7.72B, Intel's is 51.97B. That's the main number that "matters" (although the stock price itself matters for some obscure psychological reasons)
But don't feel bad, you still bet on the right pony.
. . . AMD's stock jumped so crazy today!
From this article:
,unless AMD bought the famed gravestone and has decided to sport it at their offices now (and I found no evidence to suggest this) the parent might be mistaken.
The former Cyrix site in Richardson, Texas... we visited the site and met ebullient Jerry Rogers, the ex-CEO, who... proudly showed us round the property, which sported a mock gravestone marked "Intel Inside RIP" in the reception area....
So
Also from the article: Cyrix, of course, was acquired by Via... who, it seems, faced some challenges netween their engineering and their business sectors after the acquisition. But, then again, when have these sorts of differences ever been news?
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I'd hope this would bolster their ability to supply the larger OEMs.
Dell does ship systems running Red Hat Linux, they used to list a lot of the systems on their business-oriented site/sections with an OS option of Red Hat Linux, but this seems to have decayed, so you may need to call them to get one.
The Precision-n series workstations ship with Red Hat® Enterprise Linux WS
Dell and Red Hat have even 'joined forces'
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You don't get it. Intel gives Dell advertising money. In return for that money, Dell mentions Intel in the ads. That is why their TV ads say "Dell Dimensions feature Intel Pentium processors" and why computer print ads include the Intel logo. It isn't because Dell thinks it'll sell more computers - it is because Intel helps out with the cost of the ad.
Being a smaller company, AMD won't have as many ad dollars to chip in.
Of course, the evil part is that Intel is simply jacking up the price of their chips, and then rebating the money to Dell in return for a mention. If Dell didn't mention Intel in their ads, Intel would pocket the money or give it to a Dell-competitor for ads.
Dell uses Intel motherboards. Intel motherboards are among the most reliable and trusted by experienced IT folks and, along with Intel chipsets, are the reason that many people stick with Intel even when AMD's processors are faster, better designed, lower temperature, and cheaper.
The Dell sitting in front of me uses some propriety Dell board of some sort. True, it's got an Intel chipset, and it is stable. However, its slow as hell, has no AGP slot, a non-standard power connector, and suffers from terrible layout.
However, it's one of their "small business PCs", which basically means it was a home system with different software installed (now its got Linux installed). Maybe their corporate PCs/servers use off-the-shelf Intel parts, but their home computers do not.
This is fine, assuming you are running windows on the machine in question.
Rather than wait for Dell to make up their mind about AMD chips, we are switching to Opteron-powered Sunfire servers.
I do not deploy Linux. Ever.
If we all go out and buy a couple shares of AMD stock (less than 30 dollars at the moment!!), they'll (AMD that is) have more revenue to work with when it comes to either manufacturing more processors (for Dell) or broadening their advertising. On a side note, I don't know if anyone reads Linux Journal, or Linux Magazine (the US versions) but AMD had an advertising campaign aimed scientists and researchers, and I would imagine that means educational institutions as well. Is anyone else thinking maybe AMD should stick to this niche? To me it sort of guarantees a higher quality product (for scientists) at a lower price (for ed. institutions).
All the "market cap" is this: stocks x price.
So its pretty much how much money you would need to buy the company/what the company is worth.
Intel is a MUCH bigger company than AMD. They have more plants, people, sales, etc. So all that capital is simply worth more.
More info here.
apple.com is very nice, imho. It is
Good looking (imho)
Light weight (for the times when you are not on broadband, support sites for instance is merely text)
Easilly navigated (you can often guess the url path, like www.apple.com/ipod, /hardware /store etc)
It sell's Apple computers! (hihi)
Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities.
Aristotele
- AMD doesn't have the manufacturing capacity to supply Dell with enough processors for the desktop.
This *kinda* goes hand-in-hand with my earlier rejected story I tried to submit:theinquirer.net 1st reported that AMD in a bold move " has signed a deal with Chartered Semiconductor - a Singapore foundry - to make 64-bit processors under licence". Then contituned to elaborate on the story, that " AMD move to Chartered is insurance policy ", where they take help from Nathan Brookwood (senior chip analyst at Insight64.com) totry to make sense of the move.
I don't claim I know more than I know, and if you know you know more than I know, then by all means, let me know.
To be fair to the others, try Apple store:
s /A ppleStore.woa/71202/wo/Tp1uBcC8gWZv2lQEPAXn8ZQZXjG /0.0.11.1.0.6.21.1.1.1.1.0.0.1.0
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObject
It DOES take a genius to guess this is a page for buying PowerBooks.
To buy a company you need to add market capitalization and debt, subtract the cash, thusly obtaining
enterprise_value = market_cap + debt - cash.
I have to admit to liking the Pentium 4 processor. I've burned up too many AMD Athlons to be totally comfortable with them. I also like Dell's desktop machines. I've aways built my own machines, and this Dell I'm on now is the first box I've ever had that was mass produced. It's impressed the hell out of me. The one thing that I really love - the case. Opens like a book and the drives are all right there. What other machine (other than a MAC) lets you do a hard drive swap in 10 seconds? The performance is good too. Maybe not the fastest, but it's solid. Stable. And it's quiet. Getting a new optical drive when my old one burnt out the very next day was cool. To drive into town to where I could actually buy a replacement would take 8 hours round trip and 145 bucks in gas. (I've got an old truck) So having Dell just ship it next day air was awesome. For free even. Even better. What's funny is that with my new job, if you call Dell and need some on site support... I'm the guy that shows up. How weird is that?
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