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Hacking Vodka

enrico_suave writes "A group of geeks aimed to find out whether running cheap vodka through a brita water filter would make it drinkable. They claim after several passes through the filter the cheap vodka surpassed the premium Ketel One in drinkability tests. I think they should have done the test 'double blind' although drinking Vladmir Vodka probably could make you go blind anyways... =)"

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  1. Common knowledge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe this has actually been known for a long time.

    Here is the canonical list of the top ten things that taste better once filtered through a Brita pitcher six times, in decreasing order of improvement, according to the Brita FAQ:

    • Orange juice
    • Coca Cola
    • Vodka
    • Cooking oil
    • Urine
    • Gasoline
    • Blood
    • Vinegar
    • Water
    • Semen
    Surprisingly, pus did not make the list....
    1. Re:Common knowledge? by Rie+Beam · · Score: 5, Funny

      Curious - as to who was the first person to say "This semen would taste better run though a Brita water filter"?

    2. Re:Common knowledge? by Necrobruiser · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just incase anyoen was thinking of trying it.

      Stop telling people not to drink gasoline. We'll all be better off once the people who would drink gasoline, drink gasoline. ;)

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    3. Re:Common knowledge? by JPriest · · Score: 5, Funny

      Exactly, hacking vodka is actually pretty common practice the next morning.

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    4. Re:Common knowledge? by runderwo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I carry a little flask around with me. Sometimes I take a discreet sip when I think nobody is looking.

    5. Re:Common knowledge? by pturing · · Score: 5, Informative

      it also depends on what vodka you are drinking. If it comes in a plastic bottle, expect to get sick. Good vodka is relatively free of the other little organic molecules that cause most of your problems.

      Of course, if you're drinking enough of it then your problem is dehydration. If you have a pain in your side and/or your urine isn't colorless, then your probably need to drink more water, whether you've been drinking alcohol or not.

    6. Re:Common knowledge? by JThundley · · Score: 4, Funny

      Somebody from CookingWithCum.com would. It's a real web site!

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  3. Better than a Volcano by glowimperial · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally a great science project that the kids can do at home.

    1. Re:Better than a Volcano by pHatidic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Last year some kids I know 'liberated' a distillation column from the chem labs and took some normal vodka and distilled it into 190 proof "super-vodka". A couple shots of that and I was hallucinating and kept running out of my dorm room every half hour because for some reason I thought my bike was being stolen. I still get that warm tingly feeling in my liver just thinking about it.

    2. Re:Better than a Volcano by caveat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hells bells, if they were ransacking the chem labs, they should have just taken some anhydrous ethanol. Back when I was in school, we used to order it by the 5-gallon tub ($20.99!), and since it was USP-grade, it was technically safe to drink...nobody ever noticed a liter gone here or there.

      Of course, since alcohol doesn't really want to exist in that 100% pure state, it had a nasty habit of dehydrating your tender tissues on the way down, as well as having the unholiest burn of any drink I've ever had (it actually had sort of an oily texture/mouth feel, instead of the usual watery sensation), but oh man did it ever fux0r one up. Cheers!

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    3. Re:Better than a Volcano by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wow, I would highly unrecommend drinking anhydrous alcohol, due to the benzine in it. Distillation alone will not remove all the water from the alcohol, so benzine is typically used to get rid of the rest (don't ask me how, I have no idea what the chemistry behind it is).

      Benzine is an awful toxin and carcinogen...not so much something you want to ingest.

      190 proof grain alcohol is pretty cheap...and you're really not gonna notice a difference, in either taste (they both taste like...burning) or in effect (that last 5% makes almost no difference).

      You might want those taste buds later on in life anyway...

    4. Re:Better than a Volcano by SamSim · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is only tangetially related but I thought I'd post it anyway. At the start of (well, a week or so into) every new academic year at my college, all of the current mathematicians (such as me) band together, spend a reasonable proportion of the mathematicians' society's annual budget on vodka and assorted other alcoholic drinks, and have an amicable get-together in somebody's room to welcome the newcomers. In 2002 I was among those newcomers. There were about fifteen of us altogether.

      I had the good fortune to retire to my room relatively early that night, because some time later in the evening, I'm told, a second-year called Dom got out a fondue set. The details of what happened after that are a little confused, but basically, somebody else also got out a small lump of greenish cheese which he had bought at the dining hall some weeks previously and never mustered the courage to eat. Alcohol did its sinful work, and the idea arose to melt the cheese. Into half a bottle of vodka.

      Apparently (and understandably), nobody was able to manage more than a few sips of this crime against humanity of a drink without dire ill effects. The vast majority of the cheese vodka went undrunk and the bottle sort of hung around for the rest of the term... and the next term... and the next, gradually being handed from person to person as each one tried to get rid of it without actually drinking any of it or sacreligiously throwing it away.

      That was in October 2002. Towards the end of June 2003, it was decided that enough was enough. The cheese vodka had had its day. It was buried in what I'm told was a rather tearful ceremony in Botolph Court, being a rather grubby area of grass in the middle of some of our student accommodation. Apparently they emptied some tea over the grave; tea being another major interest of a significant number of mathematicians at our college.

      Fast-forward to October 2003 and the next official mathmo drinks. I was now among the second-years welcoming the first-years, and obviously we told them our various anecdotes of years gone by. We got to the cheese vodka story. Alcohol once again did its sinful work, and the idea popped into the collective head to go back to Botolph Court and dig it up again.

      Which we did.

      It was crawling up the side of the bottle to get out.

      It comes pretty close to the all-time Worst Idea In Alcoholic History. Not quite up there with "let's drink Lenin's embalming fluid", but pretty darned close. I think *name removed*, one of the first-years, was the only person who tried any of the one-year-old matured cheese vodka. She managed a record-breaking whole capful. She was alternately paralytic and unpleasantly violent for the rest of the evening. Eventually I was one of the ones who helped carry her back to her room, by which time she was already being seriously considered for that year's Most Drunken Mathmo award, usually given in summer.

      The cheese vodka is now missing, presumed poured down a sink somewhere, but I suspect that in the fullness of time it will resurface like an old supervillain.

  4. Fantastic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great. Looks like someone's nine years of freshman chemistry hasn't been a complete waste.

    1. Re:Fantastic! by Zenmonkeycat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nope, just two semesters of freshman chemistry; then you get two semesters of organic chemistry, and two full years of "A History of Russia: Depressing, Frozen Tundra Where Health Goes to Die."

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  5. Hey, I often run Vodka through a filtration system by physicsphairy · · Score: 5, Funny

    But it sure doesn't make it taste any better.

  6. Obligatory Bad Joke by Zephiris · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, Vodka filters you!

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    1. Re:Obligatory Bad Joke by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, the lame jokes get fed up of YOU! HA HA!

    2. Re:Obligatory Bad Joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, that, unlike most comments related to Soviet Russia, is actually pretty poignant. There was enough vodka per capita in the USSR that the drinker could be considered an impurity in the drink.

  7. Some calculations... by bergeron76 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's see:
    Cheap vodka: $10 (US assumptions)
    Name brand filter: $30
    Total vodka purity: $40
    As compared to: Good vodka - $34.99

    Hrmm, I guess it probably made sense when they did the experiment.

    Seriously though, it's neat to see hacks like this. It should also be noted that the chick in the middle of this picture is kinda cute. But does anyone know what the pills are in the bottom left corner of that picture?

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    1. Re:Some calculations... by FunOne · · Score: 5, Funny

      It should also be noted that the chick in the middle of this picture is kinda cute.


      How much vodka have you had tonight?

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    2. Re:Some calculations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      How do you get $30 for one filter?

      A three pack of filters is around $17.

      Heck, the pitchers themselves are only around $10....

      Seems like a good deal to me, especially if you could use the filter more than once (likely two times at least, if you only filter four passes, possibly three times or more).

    3. Re:Some calculations... by harleyb · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dude, that isn't a chick.

    4. Re:Some calculations... by cacepi · · Score: 5, Funny

      It should also be noted that the chick in the middle of is kinda cute.

      She is. I know the first thing I look for in a girl is a 5-'O-clock shadow.

      That's a dude, dude.

    5. Re:Some calculations... by austad · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sir. I don't pretend to know what you have been drinking. However, it is reasonable to assume that you have drank it all.

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  8. Not much of a test by Genevish · · Score: 4, Funny

    The question is, did they taste it after each pass through the filter? That would explain the result... ("Thish is farckn great!!")

  9. Try the premium Pur brand by pgpckt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They should try it with the premium Brita Pur filters, not just the regular Brtia kind. Those are supposed to get out even more bad stuff, and perhaps in less passes? Maybe a three way test: Brita v. Regular Pur v. Super Pur.

    http://www.purwater.com/yourwater/pitchers.shtml

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  10. Re:beer too? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny
    Anyone else want to do trials and report the results?

    I poured in a Fat Tire and got a Bud Light. The second pass end up like a Corona, and I didn't have the heart to subject it to a third run.

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  11. Double Blind Study by serutan · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you really want a double blind study mix Vladimir and Pepe Lopez Gold tequila.

  12. Ladies and Gentlemen by Adrilla · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've just become a home scientist.
    PS: Science makes the room spin.

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  13. Does this work for Rubbing Alcohol? by dantheman82 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I tried this five times with rubbing alcohol? How many times before I can get it at vodka level of drinkability?

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  14. Re:no no no by cshark · · Score: 4, Informative

    Na' Vodka's kids stuff. If you are really serious about drinking yourself blind, get yourself a nice bottle of ARAK, and drink it in one sitting. A good bottle will be up to and around 70-80% alcohol. It's big in the middle east. They drink it on the weekends, the rest of the time... it's Window cleaner.

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  15. Re:beer too? by kimanaw · · Score: 5, Funny
    Please, don't abuse beer in this fashion.

    Beer has been attacked from all sides of late, whether its MADD or Atkins. Need I remind you that it was "liquid bread" that built the pyamids, and that modern democracy was born in the pewter mugs of beer swilling patriots ?

    As a homebrewer, I beg, nay, demand that you love and care for your beer as it is. There are many good homes where your unfiltered beer would be welcomed. If you are either unable or unwilling to support your beer, please, please send it to a good home with someone who will love and cherish your beer without questioning its color or purity. May I suggest the Hospice of St. Arnolds ?

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  16. I wondered what the hell that stuff was... by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the article:
    At $11.09 for 1.75 liter...Vladimir is a steal. It is, however, painful to drink, has a repugnant aftertaste, posesses a bouquet reminiscent of rubbing alcohol.
    I was in St. Louis at a conference several months ago; after the closing dinner, a group of us descended on the local blues scene hoping to find some good live music.

    We found it--there was a nice patio and a great band. As the evening wore on, we progressed from beer to shooters. A round of vodka seemed a good idea at one point. It smelled like isopropanol (I'm a chemist, I know my alcohols) and tasted as bad as one would expect. To this day, I have wondered what the hell it was we drank, so that I could avoid ever encountering it again. I fear unfamiliar vodkas in unfamiliar bars.

    Now, I know it was Vladimir. I can rest easy. Thank you Slashdot!

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  17. Speaking of filters... by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 5, Funny
    I think this would be a good place to post an email exchange that my best friend had with random representative (whoever answers the emails sent to the help address) at PUR.

    > From: Willett, J.R.
    > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:16 PM
    > Subject: PUR
    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I received a PUR Water Filtration Pitcher (Plus LX, Platinum Edition) as a
    > Christmas present, and I have a question about what things it can't
    > filter.
    >
    > I have been very satisfied with its performance in removing chlorine from
    > tapwater, however I am wondering what the limits are in its filtering
    > capabilities. Could it, for instance, remove ammonia from an ammonia-water
    > solution? In other words, could I use it in the desert to recycle urine
    > into
    > drinking water? The box says a lot about what it can filter, but not much
    > about what it can't filter. It only says that the water must be sterile,
    > and
    > everyone knows that urine is completely sterile on leaving the body. Upon
    > leaving the urinary tract, it provides an ideal environment for growing
    > bacteria, but it is completely sterile inside you. The reason we don't
    > habitually drink our own urine is because the water in our urine carries
    > bodily poisons with it, including ammonia. If, however, your pitcher can
    > remove these poisons, I can see how my PUR Water Filtration Pitcher could
    > come in handy when water is scarce.
    >
    > Although my roommate has offered to sample my filtered urine, I thought I
    > would ask you people first, before I pee in my PUR pitcher.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > -J.R. Willett
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Beckenbach.Mark [mailto:Beckenbach.Mark@purwater.com]
    Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:38 AM
    To: 'Willett, J.R.'
    Subject: RE: PUR

    Hello J.R.,
    Gee-Whiz, I must admit that I read your e-mail with some skepticism. Upon
    further reflection I came to the conclusion that you could indeed run human
    urine through our filters. If you do this it could very well hasten your
    way to death, but you can filter urine. We don't normally test urine or the
    body's by-products associated with it. Drinking urine is a bit out of the
    main stream, if you'll pardon the pun. The filter may have some effect on
    the potency of the ammonia. If you're in an emergency situation with out
    water, drinking urine will only make your day worse. The ammonia in urine
    isn't what's going to ruin an already pisser of a day, its the salts. By
    constantly reintroducing those salts into your system, you are increasing
    the amount of salt in your system, and decreasing the amount of usable
    fluids. This salt will draw water from other tissues in your body, as will
    your kidneys. Your kidneys need the extra water to flush the salts out.
    It's a viscous circle. As your kidneys are shutting down, the poisons in
    your body will increase; thereby playing havoc with your heart. The lack of
    electrolytes in your in your brain can cause the synapses to misfire
    eventually causing you to get delirious and run screaming into the desert
    waving your hands over your head chasing Elvis.
    All levity aside, I am not a physician. However I do understand our
    products and have a thorough understanding of human physiology. My
    recommendation is not to do it. Carry a bladder of water in your trunk.
    Being prepared is the best way to keep from having to drink pee.
    Mahalo,
    Mark

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Willett, J.R.
    Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 10:17 AM
    Subject: RE: PUR

    Mark,

    Thankyou for your timely reply in this matter. Not only have you saved us from what could have been a disasterous science experiment, but you have provided a tremendous amount of amusement to several college students with perhaps too much time on their hands to wonder about such things.

    I assume that if the filter cannot rem

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    1. Re:Speaking of filters... by wretched22 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your best friend was the author? Were you by chance the thirsty roommate?

    2. Re:Speaking of filters... by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I think this would be a good place to post an email exchange that my best friend had with random representative (whoever answers the emails sent to the help address) at PUR"

      You know, in a day and age where companies are way too PC or diplomatic when they respond to emails like these, it's really quite refreshing to read an email like that. Kudos, PUR.

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    3. Re:Speaking of filters... by jerde · · Score: 4, Informative

      >your urine will be only about 5% water

      Urine is almost entirely water, with a little bit of other substances dissolved in it. I doubt it's ever more than 5% solutes by weight, in 95% water.

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    4. Re:Speaking of filters... by RedBear · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just FYI, in case you ever go ocean trekking, you actually can buy a hand-operated desalination pump for your survival raft to make fresh water from saltwater. It's considerably more difficult than removing particulates, chemicals and bacteria from fresh water. I can't find a link to where you can actually order one, but I wouldn't be surprised if a desalination pump cost several hundred or even a couple grand. Requires some sort of reverse osmosis, I think.

      I work for an organization that does marine safety training, and my boss related to me a story about a couple who survived something like 68 days in a liferaft in the middle of the ocean with nothing but a little food and a hand-operated desalinator. Not sure of the date but it was some years ago, so they've been around for a while.

    5. Re:Speaking of filters... by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Funny

      the other shit in the urine will require more water to process than you get from the processed urine.

      Dude, if you have shit in your urine, you should see a doctor *pronto*.

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    6. Re:Speaking of filters... by Inda · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you wish to survive on urine you must evaporate the water off first.

      Dig a large hole.

      Piss in said hole or in a small container and place that in the hole.

      Place a clean empty contain in the hole. Use this to collect your 'fresh' water.

      Cover the hole with polythene; tranparent is best. Weigh it down at the corners to stop it falling in.

      Place a small stone in the centre of the polythene to form an angle for the condenced water to run down. Your clean empty container should be under this.

      Other green plants can be added to the hole to increase moisure.

      I tried this 20 years during a hot sunny day in the UK - hardly desert conditions, I know. I had almost half a cup of water of drinking water at the end of the day. I was was not brave enough to try it without water purification tablets though.

      It would buy you an extra day or so and better than drinking your own piss without doubt.

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  18. Anhydrous ethanol is usually spiked by fejes · · Score: 5, Informative

    Spiked with Methanol,that is, which makes you go blind. One thing I know from working in Chemistry labs is that you should never touch alcohol coming from a lab. (If you don't believe me, squirt a bit into a Gas Chromatography column, and notice that there are two peaks, not one.)

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  19. Beware of certain filters by LS · · Score: 4, Informative

    A company called gray kangaroo makes alcohol filters that do precisely what is being described here. Take this with a grain of salt, since the source is biased (they are trying to sell filters), but their FAQ claims the following:


    How is the Gray Kangaroo different than a commercially available water filter?

    GK uses more filter material than a standard personal water filter. It also uses filter material which is optimized for liquor. Water filters use a variety of filter materials, some of them improve liquor while others (which eliminate chlorine, lead and other hazards in tap water) do nothing for liquor and only waste space. Also some filters use plastics which are dissolved by hard liquor and end up making your drink taste like crazy glue. Most importantly the GK is designed to easily filter liquor multiple times and built to be rugged enough to be used by a group of heavy drinkers.


    LS

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  20. JUST Finished trying this by Thai-Pan · · Score: 4, Informative

    What a wacky coincidence. I saw this experiment posted up on a message board and just tried it with some friends this evening. They left not 10 minutes ago.

    Started off with a 750ml bottle of "Medallion Quality". You don't expect much from a bottle that large that costs in the range of $11 Canadian. Needless to say, it was putrid. Bordering undrinkable. You'd have to be drunk to start with to consume the stuff. Smells reminiscent of rubbing alcohol, tastes like turpentine with an aftertaste not unlike a bowling alley shoe. As my buddy described it, "It feels like a clown is raping my mouth."

    We were sure to prime the filter first. It ships with some chemicals in the charcoal, so run a few pitchers of water through.

    After 3 filters of the vodka, the odour was drastically reduced. Flavour was not hugely improved, but the aftertaste was lessened and it didn't burn as much going down.

    6 filters, the odour is down even more. Taste is much improved. Now comparable to a decent cheap vodka, probably a little better than regular Smirnoff. Goes down not too bad, aftertaste still not great.

    10 filters. Odour is near gone. Tastes smooth. Would be undetectable mixed with grapefruit juice.

    20 filters. SMOOTH. Goes down like water. Zero odour. Perfect. Easily as good as an upper end vodka like Canadian Iceberg, but not as delicate as the really pricy brands. Definitely a good taste. Pleasant enough to drink straight without shooting it.

    Of course we kept a control sample. I did not fully appreciate how good the 20-filtered drink was until I tasted the control sample again. It was truly terrible. While I suggest doing this just to try it, I will not again put that stuff in my mouth unfiltered.

    I have heard mixed reports about how well different vodkas turn out. Some are better than others, Medallion had tremendous benefit from the filtering. The taste of the original and final product are not even remotely close.

    Also heard complaints about murky vodka. Our first filter result was slightly murky and blue/greyish from chemicals left in the filter. Repeated filtering made it disappear again. I can't help but wonder if those chemicals were doing me any physical harm, but they could not possibly be doing any worse than the original vodka anyways. It's all in the name of SCIENCE!

    All in all, this experiment was fun and definitely worth trying. It takes long enough that I wouldn't expect it to be a decent timesaving measure. However, it was fun to do and we will probably repeat the experiment again next Friday with that godawful Russian Prince vodka.

  21. Having done this by icebattle · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I recently completed my first batch of home distilled vodka and, frankly, it was great. The yield was excellent, and my home made still worked fine. I even have some pics of the rig.

    I ran half of the completed product through a carbon filter, and it seemd to improve the smoothness. Maybe. We had a few merry evenings with the stuff, and no nasty hangovers.

    I'll be kicking off the next batch soon. Long live SuperYeast!

  22. Sorry, but wrong. by warrax_666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Methanol makes you go blind and very likely dead (unless you only drink a tiny amount and get treated immediately), Ethanol gives you a hangover.

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  23. Nope, was right, do your research by pturing · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, you can process methanol in the small amounts that you get it in liquor. Unfortuanetely, it metabolizes to formaldehyde and formic acid, which are among the major factors in hangovers.

    See, for example:
    http://www.studentbmj.com/back_issues/06 02/educati on/ed3.html
    http://www.talkaboutsupport.com/group /alt.support. disorders.neurological/messages/4240.html

  24. "It feels like a clown is raping my mouth." by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Exactly how does your friend know how it feels to have a clown raping his mouth?

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  25. Re:Ethanol by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, by percentage of effect, its the impurities that give you the hangover.

    Care to back that up? According to this ethanol causes dehydration, electrolyte imbalance and low blood sugar. Further, it states that pure ethanol can cause hangovers, and that it is unknown whether ethanol or the impurities have the greater effect.

    That's why they are shooting for 100% pure, in theory no hangover...

    Who is they? Care to back this up? You do realize that it's impossible to get 100% pure ethanol, right? Although one could probably produce 99.999% pure ethanol, as soon as the bottle was opened, it would begin absorbing water from the atmosphere until it reached the azeotropic composition, about 95% purity, if I remember correctly.