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Screw-in LED Floodlights

Anonymous Coward writes "This company claims to have the first LED flood lights that you simply screw in as a replacement for your old bulb. enluxled.com are also claiming it's cool enough to handle, more damage resistant, longer lasting (50,000 hours) and only uses 22w to produce twice the light of a 100w bulb." And hideously expensive, but you never have to change them.

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  1. How does this compare to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Energy saving bulbs we have today?

    They only compare them against normal bulbs, and not energy bulbs, wonder why, not nearly as much good marketing maybe :D

    1. Re:How does this compare to... by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's been a while, but I think most of the numbers are still correct;

      Lumens/Watt Light Source
      100-190 low pressure Sodium (HID)
      (150 90W low pressure sodium lamp, clear)
      50-150 High pressure Sodium (HID)
      (115 1000W dual arc-tube high pressure sodium lamp, clear)
      100 Sylvania 18 watt low pressure sodium
      84 32W, 48" MOL, T8 OCTRON fluorescent lamp,
      60-65 standard F40T12 cool white fluorescent
      64 250W mogul based metal halide lamp, clear
      60 150W single ended compact metal halide lamp
      48-60 compact fluorescents
      45-55 Super bright Red/Orange LED
      35-45 Super bright Green LED
      17.5 Tungsten Halogen Single-End SUPER-Q Frosted Finish D.C. Bay 100Watt
      17.5 100W Incandescent A19 Bulb, softwhite
      14.5 60W Incandescent A19 Bulb, softwhite (standard bulb)
      6 incandescent night light bulb (7w)
      6w incandescent flashlight bulbs

      For normal home lighting T8 fluorescents are probably your best bet today.
      LEDs are good when you're want colored light, when you want a small amount of light, or when the cost/hassle of replacing the bulb is the major factor.

      Cree recently announced a 75 lumens per watt white LED, but AFAIK they aren't available in quantity yet.
      There's a lot of hope for the future of LEDs, but they're still a few years off.

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    2. Re:How does this compare to... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Funny
      using the exact same process as flourescent lights

      Is that some process where they coat the inside of the bulb with ground wheat?

      it's fluorescent.

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  2. How many geeks.... by WesG · · Score: 5, Funny

    ....does it take to screw in an LED bulb?

    yay :-)

    1. Re:How many geeks.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only two. But they'd have to be very small geeks to fit in the bulb.

  3. Re:forever by 1010011010 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    50,000 hours isn't forever...

    No, but it is 5.7 years ($14/year) of continuous light, or 17 years $4.7/year) of eight-hours-a-day light.

    You can buy about 32 regular flood lamps for $80. They will last about 2,000 hours each. That's 64,000 hours total -- an additional $14,000 hours.

    So for home use, don't bother. For commercial or industrial settings, though, there can be lots of lights, and here is a labor cost associated with changing them. Some organizations change every light at once, to avoid the higher cost of replacing bulbs individually as they burn out. For those types of applications, the longer-lasting LED lights will lower the cost of changing bulbs.

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  4. What a dilema for students by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    Be cool, trendy and enviromentally friendly like students want to be and get these leds at the price of a weeks drinking money per bulb and also the loss the main heat source in their house.

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  5. The Savings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Using their calculator. (One bulb)
    • Current annual electricity costs: $5.69
    • Current bulb life: 20.5 months
    • Current annual replacement bulb costs: $1.76
    • Current maintenance hours per year: 0 hours
    • Current annual maintenance costs: $0
    • Current annual lighting costs: $7.45
    • Enlux LED Flood unit cost: $80
    • Enlux LED Flood wattage: 22W
    • Annual electricity costs with Enlux LED: $1.93
    • Enlux LED Flood life: 50,000 hours or 411 months when used for 4 hours per day
    • Months until break even point: 167 months
    • Total savings with the Enlux LED Flood: $112.06
  6. Re:flourescent bulbs by Ironsides · · Score: 5, Informative

    Reasons for using LED over Flourescent:
    1) When a flourescent bulb fails, it stops giving off light completely. Usually and LED light will only have 1 led fail at a time. Given theis, you don't have large areas of darkness and don't have to replace the bulb immediatley when a part fails. LEDs fail gracefully.

    2) LEDs are more resistant to damage.

    3) The LEDs appear to not need to be replaced as often as Flourescent. The largest "Pain" in lighting is having to replace the bulbs. If these new LEDs last sufficiently longer than Flourescnets, they pay for themselves in labor.

    4) I'm not sure about this, but I don't think I've seend flourescent spot lights before. However, the LEDs might be able to put out more light than flourescents.

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  7. Re:Amish Lights by mordors9 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually they have a complicated set of rules that varies from area to area. Some areas they are allowed to have rubber tires, some areas not. In our area they have lots of wood shops that used gas powered air compressors. Then they use air tools for their work. One of the most interesting things I saw when I first moved to the area was an Amishman backing his horse and buggy up to a public boat ramp on a lake. He had a trailer with a boat and a Honda motor on it. Alot of them have phones outside in what appears to be an outhouse. Several households will share the one phone. But they can not be in their homes. The list goes on.

  8. Does NOT generate 100 watts of light with 22 by augustz · · Score: 5, Informative

    THIS IS NOT TRUE!!

    The specs for the light are I beleive 300 lumens. This is more like a 45-60 watt bulb.

    A 100 watt bulb might generate 1500+ lumens.

    It still is significantly more efficient, and with a SIGNIFICANTLY longer life span, but it is not equal to a 100 watt bulb.

    When these first came out (won some awards) I checked them out for this very thing.

    They also are not an all around type light a la a lightbulb, more of a spotlight (90 degree beam angle?), so better for flooding a wall or artwork with color / light.

    Still super cool. Still a bit expensive.

  9. Re:Amish Lights by MrResistor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They aren't Luddites, they just feel it's spiritually important to keep things simple, and not get so caught up in modern consumerism that they forget what's important.

    IIRC, they have a counsel of sorts to deal with things like this, where something comes along that is so much better and safer, but no more complicated, comes along. Having grown up off-grid, and having plenty of experience with kerosene lamps and candles, I can definately appreciate where these guys are coming from.

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  10. Re:forever by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 5, Funny

    shoot a couple kids with slingshots and that problem will go away.

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  11. NOT the first. by outanowhere · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "This company (enlux) claims to have the first LED flood lights that you simply screw in as a replacement for your old bulb. "

    This claim is false.

    Commercial white LED floods and other replacements for high-voltage incandescent bulbs are available for any standard base in the world, including the funky euro and russian bases. They are available at three colour temperatures and in any other LED colour, including IR and UV.

    They have been available for more than two years.

    Enlux had no such products available a year ago.

    Seems they define "flood" a bit broadly: According to their own data, it illumines a narrow region like a spot would.

    50K hours seems a little short-lived.

    And white LEDS dim quite noticeably over a very short time. They will most likely be too dim long before 50K hours. Most likely in a bit less than half that time, around 20K hours.

    If they are willing to lie about being the first, and deceive about the useful life of their lights, what else will they lie or cheat on?

    Wonder if enlux will do for LEDs what Lights of America did for fluoros...

  12. Re:living a simple life by ajayvb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Awww....give me a break. Have you ever washed clothes by hand? I have. I lived in India, and when I lived in dorms during my engineering days, we had no laundry facilities. "Going home to do the laundry" acquires a totally new dimension then (My parents had a washing machine at home). Try wringing out a pair of jeans to dry on a cold morning at 40 F , and then we'll talk.