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Microgenerators Coming Soon to Electronics Near You

fygment writes "A new microgenerator developed at Georgia Tech can now produce enough power to run a small electronic device, like a cell phone, and may soon be able to power a laptop. The microgenerator is about 10 millimeters wide, or about the size of a dime. When coupled with a similarly sized gas-fueled microturbine (or jet) engine, the system, called a microengine, has the potential to deliver more energy and last 10 times longer than a conventional battery. This is still just a quarter of the problem. A turbine is still being developed to turn the generator and that will require fuel and storage of some kind."

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  1. No thanks. by davidbrit2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes, what a great idea, let's INCREASE our dependency on fossil fuels for powering our portable electronics.

    And the hot exhaust from the turbine would feel absolutely lovely against one's leg while being carried in a pocket.

    Somehow I don't see this miniature jet engine concept really "taking off" (hur hur).

    1. Re:No thanks. by beders · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, becuase the electricity in your batteries comes from tickling flowers and my laptop is ice cold

    2. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oil doesn't depend on fossil fuels. It's just currently the cheapest source. It should bequite easy to use vegetable based oil, and the great thing about that is that you can even use old stuff that's already been used for cooking if you want to filter the crap out.

    3. Re:No thanks. by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, the electricity in your batteries most likely came from burning coal. But I'd rather burn American coal than buy Arab oil.

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    4. Re:No thanks. by Sai+Babu · · Score: 4, Funny



      Who says the turbine has to be powered by fossil fuel? It could be a hydro turbine with penstock attached to your dick. Or perhaps methane powered with a hose stuffed in your ass. Vegans are known for producing copious quantities of methane.

      .Other methane sources include your composting latrine, port to cows stomach, and even composting of dead cats

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    5. Re:No thanks. by TykeClone · · Score: 3, Funny
      One for the case, one for me. Two for the case, two for me...

      Mmmmm - ethanol.

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    6. Re:No thanks. by stephenbooth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a good chance that's Chinese coal you're burning.

      I'd be most interested in these generators if they ran on vegetable oil. Large areas of South America (especially Brasil) have been using vegetable oil as a major fuel source (especially in the automotive arena) for some time. I'd rather plant sunflowers or corn than drill oil wells.

      Stephen

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    7. Re:No thanks. by Murphy+Murph · · Score: 5, Informative
      And the hot exhaust from the turbine would feel absolutely lovely against one's leg while being carried in a pocket


      On your fears of hot exhaust:

      My cell phone = 3.6v battery @ 850 mah.
      That is 3.06 watt hours.
      If I talk non-stop on my phone it takes two hours to kill the battery.
      That's 1.53 watts consumed at FULL usage.
      1.53 watt hours = 1,316 calories.
      That's enough heat to raise 1.3 Liters of water one stinkin' degree - over the course of one hour.
      I'm willing to be your thigh contains more than 1.3 Liters of water.

      Assume 33% efficiency and you still don't have much to fear.

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    8. Re:No thanks. by dnnrly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      More than likely these microgenerators will be powered by methanol. It's easy to produce, well understood, and easy to handle. All this makes it CHEAP! Since methanol will come from specially grown crops, so in some respects it can be regarded as CARBON NEUTRAL. In other words, it won't contribute any more CO2 to the atmosphere than was taken out to produce it.

      Factoring in the other energy used to produce the crop (such as powering tractors, transporting it etc) can be quite complicated and will no doubt slightly offset the advantages but overall I seem to recall that it isn't a bad trade off.

    9. Re:No thanks. by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny
      "A turbine is still being developed to turn the generator and that will require fuel and storage of some kind"

      [Sigh]
      Do I have to all the thinking round here? Just turn the turbine with an electric motor running off a battery.

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  2. Steam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Welcome to the age of steam powered laptops!

  3. Size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    The microgenerator is about 10 millimeters wide
    Or "one centimeter" as we say in English.
    1. Re:Size by RasendeRutje · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nope:
      10 mm = within the range of 9.5000 to 10.499999 mm 1 cm = within the range of 0.5000 to 1.49999 cm

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    2. Re:Size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, that is not a joke. The unit size here is specifying the precision.

      mm = + or - 0.5 mm
      cm = + or - 0.5 cm

      The other way to do it is with significant figures.
      10.0 cm would be (ostensibly) the same thing as
      10mm.

  4. Already slashdotted. by amigoro · · Score: 3, Informative
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  5. This explains those new Energizer commercials.... by Eric+Giguere · · Score: 3, Funny

    You know, the one where the guy is chasing his MP3 player down the street. I didn't realize that they were turbine Energizer batteries. Duh!

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  6. Don't drop it by shiba_mac · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see MP3 players of the future becoming like cars in the movies. Drop it, and watch the spectacular explosion as all the fuel goes up.

    1. Re:Don't drop it by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Funny
      Just the thing when the RIAA comes a-calling.

      Now you might be asking yourself: Did he play five hours of music or six? .."

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  7. The perfect "turbine" is... by bshroyer · · Score: 4, Funny

    A turbine is still being developed to turn the generator and that will require fuel and storage of some kind.

    Think outside the box. You've got a 10mm generator, but no way to turn it...

    Hamsters! They're cheap and portable. They're a renewable resource. They generate very little excess heat. Their fuel source is available almost anywhere, is non-toxic, and doesn't explode.

    Just picture it, the whole world over, millions of laptops, and on top of each screen a hamster in a cage. This is the face of technological improvement.

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    1. Re:The perfect "turbine" is... by otuz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Microturbines, on the other hand won't crap all over the place.

  8. Related Article by DosBubba · · Score: 4, Informative
  9. The beginnings of distributed power? by vudufixit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fuel cells, increasingly efficient solar, modular, small scale (pebble bed) nuclear reactors - I'm seeing the beginning of the end of the conventional power grid.
    One of the advantages of decentralization is you no longer have big juicy targets for terrorists - who'd attack a neighborhood-size solar station or fuel cell stack? And if they did, the damage would be limited in scope.

  10. Virtually everything is "steam" powered! by laetus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Shows how much you know about modern power. Almost all of our electrical power sans wind generated, dammed or solar, are "steam" powered as you say.

    A nuclear plant is nothing but a fancy way of boiling water to turn, you guessed it, steam turbines to generate electricity. Same with gas and oil-fired power plants.

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  11. More Links to Slashdot by otuz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here are links to more articles:

    Space Daily
    GaTech
    A Student's description

  12. A hamster in a wheel? by Maljin+Jolt · · Score: 4, Funny
    Or perhaps a micro steam engine could be used till the turbine one is fully developed...

    Just imagine:
    >dmesg
    cdrecord: cannot burn dvd,code=72,reason=coal buffer empty
    ACPI: hamster in sleep mode on CPU3, processor offline
    kernel panic: /dev/hda water tank overflow occurs, fsck recommended
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  13. Tiny Engines by pvg · · Score: 4, Informative

    While genetically engineered microscopic hamsters may be some years away, research into tiny internal combustion engines that could drive such a generator is definitely being done. The work of the Berkeley Combustion Processes Lab was in the news a couple of years ago when they showed some prototypes. The stuff can be seen in some detail at http://www.me.berkeley.edu/mrcl/

  14. self-winding? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since these generators are so much more efficient than batteries, and so small, why not hook them to an electrolyzer, storing the energy as hydrogen, in pancake-sized cells with gyros to spin them? Human motion can be captured for all our devices. Not only will we power devices without foreign oil, but Americans will have a reason to get off our asses and exercise - desperately needed by the most battery-hungry demographics.

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  15. This WARNING label on gaming notebooks recommends: by flowerp · · Score: 4, Funny

    To power the new Radeon Mobility X800 graphics card, your laptop will enable the afterburner. This will inject kerosene into the exhaust jet to provide additional power to the generator. Please keep the laptop away from combustible materials for your own safety. During operation, you should wear noise protection earmuffs and keep a fire extinguisher handy. Turbine blades must be inspected by your closest General Electric Turbines facility each 10,000 hours of operation. Only use unleaded JET A1 fuel. DANGER: Avoid jet blast! Do not obstruct the air intake or data loss may occur.

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  16. Why not mini-Stirling engines? by cratos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Shouldn't these engineers be concentrating on building a miniature Stirling engine instead? The processor itself could provide most of the heat for the engine. Also, this would make the whole system a lot more efficient. Instead of generating more wasted energy in the form of heat, the heat from the processor would be recovered and turned into more electricity.