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Blogging Sweeps China

An anonymous reader writes "Dissident astro-physicist, Xiao Qiang, director of the China Internet Project at UC Berkeley, interviews Isaac Mao, founder of CNBlog for New Scientist. Asked what is his strategy to expand blogging under China's censorship regime, Mao's response is typically Taoist: 'What is our strategy? We do not have a strategy. But the information flow in the blogosphere has its own Way. The Way is our strategy: personal, fast, connected and networked.'"

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  1. Garbage no in, but garbage out by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    China is one of those funny places where they really crack down on the incoming news. Taking a look at some of their latest news, it's hard to reconcile the rosy glow that they have in regards to their country with the actual happenings of their military overseas (submarine in Japanese waters) and communist neighbors (not a word about the imminent overthrow of Kim Jong Illmatic).

    On the other hand, unlike many Western countries *cough cough* that send the secret police to "visit" people who wish to express an unpopular opinion, China allows its dissidents a full voice. They of course drown out the voices with their own party-led voices proclaiming the benefits of the Komintang. But as far as stifling free speech, China has one of the best records in that area.

    1. Re:Garbage no in, but garbage out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think you're getting it mixed up

      Komintang = Taiwan

      Communists (if you can still call them that) = China = Gong Zharn Dong (rough translation)

    2. Re:Garbage no in, but garbage out by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Those pictures from Abu Ghraib weren't rosy. NBC's footage of a marine point-blank executing a wounded, unarmed Iraqi weren't rosy.

      It's hard to know how much of the full picture we are getting, but honestly, yes, I think we're getting more than most people in other times and other places.

    3. Re:Garbage no in, but garbage out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You haven't been to Europe, have you? The difference in coverage is drastic.

      You don't see any Americans killed or wounded (the latter only after they're safe, cleaned up and "wanting to go back there, sir" even without their legs).

      You don't see many Iraqis killed or wounded, save the occasional wounded child from an insurgent bomb.

      Usually either of these happens only if the story is 'big' like the one time a helicopter fired on civilians and got on tape (or the torture). Those films, too, are edited.

    4. Re:Garbage no in, but garbage out by nyekulturniy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are those of us who have military training who have an idea what's going on over there. The combat is messy, but having taken Fallujah in street fighting, the Coalition has denied the insurgents a major base city.

      One thing I've noticed that is significant: al-Jazeera has quieted down. They aren't able to get the communiques from the insurgents as well as they did in the past.

      Overall, it looks as if the fighting is going well for the Coalition, and the Tet offensive of THIS war was done BY the Marines, not TO the Marines.

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  2. Blogs by Claire-plus-plus · · Score: 4, Funny

    The sound of one hand blogging

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  3. Reminds me.. by modifried · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. of a Douglas Adams quote:

    He believed in a door. He must find that door. The door was the way to... to...
    The Door was The Way.
    Good.
    Capital letters were always the best way of dealing with things you didn't have a good answer to.

  4. What the hell? by downbad · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What is our strategy? We do not have a strategy.
    ...
    The Way is our strategy: personal, fast, connected and networked.
    Right.
  5. Re:Too bad I firewalled the entire country... by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 2

    More spam comes from the US than from China or South Korea. It just happens that there are more servers that allow spam in China.

    So how would you like to write an apology to 1billion+ people? Perhaps a mass email?

  6. Sounds by fozzmeister · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like an IBM ad!

  7. Excellent... by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tomorrows news.

    China blocks all blog sites.

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  8. Astounding by nagora · · Score: 4, Funny
    China's bloggers look like they may actually be even more pretentious and boring than their western counterparts. I didn't think it possible.

    TWW

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  9. *Cough* bullshit *cough* by cartzworth · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The Way is our strategy: personal, fast, connected and networked.'"

    I think they forgot "...and censored, too."

  10. Sex by Claire-plus-plus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is interesting that once again sex became the big reason many people have jumped on to a new technology. As that article said, blogging got a big boost from a sex blog, the sex increased visibility for the blog server and introduced many new users to blogging. It just seems to be a pity to me that people can't find something better than sex to get people to assert their collective voice.

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    1. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why?

      Sex is THE fundamental drive of all life on earth. Why would it surprise you to find it at the top of most human agendas?

    2. Re:Sex by SPBesui · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've heard that Godiva Chocolate is better than sex. Maybe you could try that.

  11. Oh, really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You say: China allows its dissidents a full voice.

    http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=1964

    Tiananmen dissident tortured to the point of becoming psychotic. He splattered paint on Mao Zedong's portrait.

    Beijing (AsiaNews/SCMP) - An imprisoned Chinese dissident has become psychotic as a result of the torture inflicted upon him, one of the man's friend told Free Asia after fleeing China.

    Yu Dongyue is a former newspaper editor who was arrested during the Tiananmen protests and sentenced to life for "counter-revolutionary propaganda": he had defaced Mao's portrait by splattering it with paint.

    In 2001 Lu Decheng, another dissident, who was jailed for years but released early, saw Yu in Hunan No1 Prison. "He was almost unrecognisable," Mr Lu said who recently escaped the mainland in a perilous three-month journey. "He had a totally dull look in his eyes, and he kept repeating words over and over again as if he were chanting a mantra. He didn't recognise anyone."

    "There was a big scar on the right side of his head. I asked his mother if Yu had ever received a head injury, but she said he never had."

    Mr Lu said that another inmate at the prison told him that Yu had been tied to a power pole and left in the sun for several days.

    "After that, they locked him in solitary confinement for two years and that's when he got like that," Mr Lu stressed. "He has been tortured to the point of psychosis."

    Officials at the Hunan No1 Prison were not available for comment.

    Yu Dongyue, Lu Decheng and Yu Zhijian were school friends from Hunan province and had been active in the pro-democracy movement before travelling to Beijing in May 1989 to join thousands of demonstrators on Tiananmen Square.

    As a result of his involvement, Mr Lu said, his house was demolished, his wife threatened to the point that the authorities forced her to divorce him, and his minibus confiscated, depriving him of the means to earn a living.

    Phone tapping, mail interception and surveillance became a regular part of his life, he added.

    Speaking from an undisclosed location, he said he fled so that he could tell Yu's story. He did not reveal any details about his escape.

  12. Where are the Iraqi blogs by aggles · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Good for the Chinese. Courage to communicate in spite of government's attitude is a positive sign from a country coming out of the dark ages. Now, how about some Iraqi blogs? For all the funds being pumped in there, one would think the Iraqis would have something to say. I'm tired of hearing everything about what is really happening there, third hand. Just so they use a language that can be translated by services such as http://www.worldlingo.com/

    1. Re:Where are the Iraqi blogs by G-Man · · Score: 4, Informative

      How about just Googling 'Iraqi blogs'? Too general for you? Try 'Healing Iraq', 'Iraq the Model', 'Riverbend', 'Salam Pax'.

      No, I'm not giving you the URLs. Do at least a little work. Sheesh. These people have been blogging for over a year and a half - Salam Pax was blogging when Saddam was still in power. Sorry if I come across as caustic, but your question and the response by the ACs above show that people haven't made the merest attempt to find out for themselves. Anyone who really cared could find Iraqi blogs over a year ago.

    2. Re:Where are the Iraqi blogs by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Informative
      Don't blame him; there's just not enough information about these blogs in mainstream media sources -- and in spite of how long the internet has been available, most of us still get most of our information from mainstream sources. I was at a panel about blogging and the war on terrorism at an academic conference and there was one panelist writing about the "dear_raed" blog. He had interesting things to say about it, but he basically seemed to think that Pax was the only Iraqi blogger and that he stopped in 2003. He had never heard of raedinthemiddle, afamilyinbaghdad, healing iraq, or even riverbend. He didn't know there were Iranian blogs either. I was stunned.

      Of course, you're right, a simple google search will uncover many of them.

  13. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Haha. but seriously...

    I got up this morning and took a shit so that I could survive until the next time I had sex.

    I took the dog out because owning another creature raises the possibility of having sex with another interested human.

    I made blueberry muffins because eating is fundamental to survival, and attracting the opposite sex with a special skill like cooking is important to having sex.

    I checked my email in order to 1) answer emails from friends who may introduce me to future sex partners, and 2) make money which increases the chances that I have sex.

    I updates some DNS zones because it increases the possibility of having sex with women who may understand what that is.

    I had coffee because I like coffee and what I like is reflected in my outlook of the day, and if I look happy and content my possibility to havce sex increases.

    I brushed my teeth because it increases my chances of having sex.

    I checked the forum that I moderate because there might be a female posting which I can attract with moderation points. I may also be able to increase my sexual attractiveness by making myself more well-rounded.

    I spent the day idling on IRC and browsing because there might be a chance that a female may log onto IRC, and there is always the possibility of rubbing one out to some internet porn (not quite sex, but a reasonable approximation).

    Yes. All about sex.

  14. Re:Falun Gong by mordors9 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    it's about protecting citizens from illegal scams.
    So Tianneman Square was just about protecting Chinese from spammers and scammers? Alrighty then.
  15. The Tao of business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    I wish I could get away with that philosophy in business ...

    Venture Capitalists: So, tell us, why should we give you seed money? What's your detailed corporate strategy?
    Me: We don't have a strategy. The company has its own Way. The Way is our strategy.
    Venture Capitalists: Well, fair enough. Sounds good to us! Here's $300 million.

    Somehow I'm a little skeptical of the "meh, it'll all work out by itself in the end" style of planning ...
  16. Great! by JanneM · · Score: 2, Funny

    Blogging Sweeps China

    Great that those bloggers are lending a hand! With the economic expansion and lack of time and all, the dust has really been piling up in the corners lately.

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  17. Coming Soon.... by inkdesign · · Score: 2, Funny

    Chinese Blogger Executed After Testicle Electrocution.

  18. Re:Pajamahadeen by geeksgirl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shouldn't you be asking if mainstream media is accurate and trustworthy, assuming you're being sincere and not sarcastic of course?.

    To answer your sincere question then, bloggers as a whole may not be accurate and trustworthy - can you really trust someone you barely know, except through the thoughts they choose to post online?

    However, Bloggers do tell you about their lives, as they live it, about the things that happen in their country and how it affects them. So while blogs may lack decent grammar and spelling, it is at least, to me, a more realistic view of the average person's situation. (Note: this does not apply to the ravings of bored teenage girls with smiley addictions! - of which there are way too many in the blogosphere)

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