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Kazaa Trial In Australia Underway

wadiwood writes "Five record companies are suing the makers of Kazaa. Sharman (moved to vanuatu in Feb 2004) say they are not responsible for what their users do with the software. Personally I don't get what Sony is doing selling MP3 players for all your "favourite tunes" and then selling music which they say you are not allowed to copy to their MP3 players, but that's another story."

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  1. More info here .. by macaulay805 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is more info here: Afterdawn.com

  2. In answer to the Sony question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Two different departments/subsidiaries/legal companies often have competing interests with competing executives...the old ignorant left hand problem. It's impossible for a large corp to be consistant accross all entities since they have competing interests at various times and are run by different people. Add in your average dose of corporate politics and general large company ineptness and it's shocking that any company of any consequence at all doesn't contradict itself daily.

    As for the rest of it...it's just a fight for the few remaining profits in a changing industry. Once there's no profit left in the standard model or there is more in the digital music distribution models Sony and everyone else will adapt to the new environment. If you want it to happen faster don't buy any music. If you're comfortable with the general level of silliness proceed...either way it's only a matter of time be for the distribution of artistic media changes dramatically.

  3. Did you get permission to use that link? by Bazzargh · · Score: 5, Funny

    6. Linking to Sony Sites
    You must not link to any Sony Site without first obtaining the prior written consent of Sony and such consent must be signed by Sony's Director of Business Affairs to be valid.


    (to which I say: ok, lets wipe you off the face of the internet)...Oh shit now I've done it too: 2...no part of the content of this site may be reproduced in any form without the written consent of Sony...

    1. Re:Did you get permission to use that link? by aero2600-5 · · Score: 5, Informative

      "You must not link to any Sony Site without first obtaining the prior written consent of Sony and such consent must be signed by Sony's Director of Business Affairs to be valid."

      2600 Magazine has already taken this to court against Ford Motor Company and won. A website cannot legally prevent someone from linking to them. Here's a link to the article. The World Wide Web cannot exist in it's present form without the ability to link to anyone you choose. Take Slashdot as example. What if all the websites in these stories didn't want to be linked to? No more Slashdot.. Linking is the premise that the World Wide Web is built on.

      Aero

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  4. Re:"I don't get what Sony is doing..." by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, but it's not legal to circumvent the DRM on the discs to rip them . . . . .

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  5. The statistics of being sued... by dep01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow.. 100 million people use Kazaa.. I think they've put suits out against approx. 4,000 people now? What percentage of 100 million is 4,000? 00.004%? Yeesh. How unlucky do you have to be to be sued by the RIAA? *cringes*

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  6. Re:"I don't get what Sony is doing..." by Anita+Coney · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, only in America is it legal to copy music but illegal to hold down the shift key!

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  7. Re:Sigh. Is the idea of licensing so hard to grasp by williamhb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Except there is no Fair Use clause in Aussie copyright law. So they can't do this legally in Austrialia, hence why the submitter said this.

    Yes, there is a Fair Use clause in Australian copyright law, it just isn't identical to the one in the US. (and unfortunately while it does cover photocopying parts of books, it doesn't cover copying music from one medium to another).

    However, there is also case law, some of which may be helpful. One example was when an Australian cable network was sued by a free-to-air network because the cable network was rebroadcasting the free-to-air signal (including ads) over cable without permission. Seems like an obvious breach of copyright law - copying the entire network content. But the cable network won, partly on the grounds that they were rebroadcasting the signal to people who were already entitled to receive it, and the free-to-air network couldn't actually prove it had caused any financial loss to them.

    As such, a law suit to stop someone copying their CDs to their own media player might prove difficult, despite it not being covered by fair use.

    But your milage may vary and I am not a lawyer...
  8. Re:The boot by bm17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is just another example of the american media spreading lies and mistruths about foreign cultures. They use a normal sized boot.