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Feds Propose National Database of College Students

Dore writes "The Department of Education wants to collect personally identifiable information on all college students, including name, address, birth date, gender, race, and SSN. Privacy is assured. The No Child Left Behind Act, which holds primary and secondary schools accountable prompted this line of thinking. Now colleges should be held accountable. If you made it to college, you were not left behind, and further attempts at monitoring citizens should be."

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  1. Why? by nz_mincemeat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does America have any laws regarding compulsory education to a certain level?

    If that exists and yet does not extend to college level, one has to wonder why this is being proposed.

    Also I can't see any real benefits (eg. in terms of missing persons) of this scheme. Anybody would like to think up some?

  2. Whoah! by SillySnake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where does it end? I mean really.. Broadcast flags are one things, but keeping tabs on every person that enters college? That's insane..
    Granted not a lot of people finish college, but a great deal start.. and the idea that the government feels the need to keep track of me in yet another way is outragious..
    By the time we get to college, we're in charge of making sure we succeed, not the government

  3. Kind of makes you wish... by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kind of makes you wish we were back in the Reagan era, when abolishing the Department of Education was in the Republican platform.

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  4. The goals are several. Read between the lines. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "What exactly is the goal of this database? What are their justifications?"

    What a bunch of stupid responses here. "To improve accountability". "RTFA". Nonsense. RBTL (Read between the lines).

    My bet is that the primary goal here is to track down draft-age men and women; specifically those who were smart enough not to enter into the draft database by voluntarily registering.

    Another clear goal is to make it easier to keep tabs on dissendents. Colleges are usually the first place where protests happen; so it makes it a lot easier to identify and keep tabs on the troublemakers.

    My, the government sure is going all out to gather and centralize all this data about the people it supposedly represents. I wonder what for?

  5. Makes Perfect Sense by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more education you have, the more likely you are to actually think about what the federal government is doing. That makes you a problem by definition. Clearly, the government needs to keep track of people like that. They need a list of people to round up as soon as habeus corpus gets suspended during the next national security emergency.

    I think I started out to be sarcastic with this. The more I look at it, the less sure of that I am.

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  6. Re:Privacy is assured. by eightheadsofdoom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder who needs to be aware of the fact the kid graduated college to begin with. When that graduate out of this mythical 20% goes to apply for a job (or Grad. school), they're going to know where they graduated from, and be able to supply the interviewer with transcripts, certifications and degrees. This system is completely unnecessary, since grads already supply this information to the relevant people. Absolutely no need to get some huge database involved.

  7. Re:Privacy is assured. by Jaysyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cough, draft, cough....

    Jaysyn

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  8. Re:Privacy is assured. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just thought it was interesting that the article cites these statistics about college students, then the very next sentence states that these very statistics cannot be captured without a tracking database.

  9. Re:Privacy is assured. by demachina · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a really great extension to the program to insure top flight undergraduate and graduate students from around the world stop coming to the U.S. Last I heard they are already opting for places like Toronto and Oxford since its already really hard to get a visa to the U.S. and once you get here you risk being arrested and held indefinitely, without due process. Having no assurance of due process part used to be something you could only say about dictatorships, who would have though we would be saying it about the U.S.

    Here is a two step program to crater your economy:

    - Let your primary and secondary education system crater(bad underpaid teachers, promoting everyone, huge dropout rate, prioritize athletics and athletes over academics).

    -Drive away all the top flight well educated foreign students and professors America has become so dependent on especially in science and tech.

    Al Qaida's plan to destroy America seems to be working pretty well, launch one spectacular attack and let brain dead politicians and law enforcement officers do the rest of the damage as they seek to make everyone "safe".

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  10. Re:National Database for Only Foreign Students by Mac+Degger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And how do you think the US amounted to anything? Yup, by flounting international copywright and patent law. In the early days, the US ripped technical feats off, and sold un-royaltied literature at cheap, cheap (warez-ed) prices. That is how countries get started.

    So get off your high horse, because that is how all industrial nations (except britain, who had the first mover disadvantage...go read your economics books) started.

    As to the rest of your xenophobic post...wow, you really don't get how the world works. Or has worked for the past couple of centuries.

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  11. Several. by abulafia · · Score: 5, Insightful
    (1) It funds universities. Not a huge point, if you're not a university administrator, but a valid one - selling a college education is worth much more to the economy than selling an expensive car overseas.

    (2) It feeds our skilled workforce. Many people who are educated here elect to stay. If you agree that top-flight people are worth having around, than this is good.

    (3) It facillitates idea exchange. Folks at school learn from each other, sometimes more than fromtheir professors. I can't think of a downside here.

    (4) It builds international connections. People who went to school together tend to stay in contact. They make business deals, diplomatic relations, and generally help countries understand each other.

    If that really isn't enough for you, look to history for what happens to nations that become myopic. Don't think it won't happen here, unless you're prepared to explain how the U.S. is different from every other empire in history.

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