Samba 4 Reaches "Susan" Stage
superfebs writes "Some day ago Samba4
reached a pretty serious test stage. Promises are beautiful: full SMB protocol implementation, Active Directory Domain Controller facility, and more; here's a full roadmap."
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Andrew Tridgell is the man behind two of the most interesting and usable free software products available; samba and rsync. Samba is truly great, but I find rsync so incredibly useful and smart. Does the Windows world have any kind of rsync-equivalent? (Besides the Windows rsync-ports, which require a lot of extra stuff like Cygwin.) Backing up data with rsync makes me sleep well at night :-)
Thanks Tridgell! :-)
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So basically the Samba team is doing what they believed was too ambtious in 2000, thus leading to the forked Samba - TNG project. Am I correct?
Judging from the results probably Tridgell & co. were right...
What is truly amazing about the Samba project is their consistent ability to emulate MS screw up, go "buf for bug" is the term I think is used. To implement something like Active Directory, bugs and, which included 4 or 5 different standard (but not quite) services is amazing. Just look at the problems with write support for NTFS. I don't know if its intentional, but MS products are not exactly easy to reverse engineer. Thanks, release us from the horror that is AD on XP!
Spencer Ogden
FTA: "Samba4 reached an important milestone tonight, as I installed it for my wife to use as her file server for all of her important documents, email, the book she is working on etc."
Ok, there are two rules I follow:
1. Never touch a running system.
but even more importantly:
2. Never touch the running system of your girlfriend/wife.
I did that a few weeks ago and upgraded her machine. Due to bad luck I bought a faulty RAM module and "thought" I had double checked it. Well, long story short, I got her machine ready in time for her finals but I went through a lot of absolutely unnecessery trouble. Ok, now she's happy and all but I nearly failed it. I would never ever try my development code on her productive box.
Linux at home
I'm not surprised they chucked you off the project then. In the long run, it makes sense to try to work well with others, even if it does mean short term compromises.
You need to learn from your social mistakes in the same way you learn from coding/design errors.
Helpful hint: most other human beings don't see the sort of social pathology you just described as being something to pat yourself on the back for.
Good luck in your chosen career as a lone-gunman coder.
Your not the only one.
> i see patterns...
That makes perfect sense to me as I also see patterns in the same way and have had the same experience with it freaking other people out. I wouldn't be surprised if you routinely see "patterns within patterns" and "patterns of patterns".
> i find it particularly frustrating in areas...
I agree. If you are to be qualified for something then you should be able to understand the various complexities that arise. Granted, no one will get everything perfect, within their claimed area of expertise, but it is aggravating when they have a 50+% failure rate.
> but - basically...
Again, I have to say "ditto". It doesn't matter whether you are being dishonest with me or someone else. I get really peeved. The same goes with hypocrisy.
> and it gets me into difficulties
That is a good way to put it. This makes me wonder, what would a group of similar inviduals like us be able to accomplish? Would we fragment against each other or would we be able to accomplish far more than has recently been seen? Perhaps someday I shall have the chance to find out.
samba tng is still going: i don't actively work on it but elrond does.
samba tng was, and still is, capable of acting as a PDC for thousands - yes, thousands - of users.
samba tng is the only PDC that doesn't fall over when a few hundred students all simultaneously log in at once.
i stopped working on samba tng because it was too distressing.
and you know just as well as i do that better ideas are useless when there is a monopoly power already in place.
jeremy, can i suggest that you read _all_ of the comments that i have made here?
a basic summary of those comments is that i accept responsibility for my failings.
can you do the same?
also - there is nothing wrong with my memory. i remember every painful word, every hurtful comment - mine, yours and andrew's.
and you know just as well as i do that better ideas are useless when there is a monopoly power already in place.
Just like Samba was useless when Microsoft held the monopoly on SMB implementations?