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Science in Antarctica

Richard writes "Just to prove that science is cool; Tania, the editor of Nerdling zine has travelled to Antarctica just to publish some interesting reading material on her blog. Apparently there to calibrate a bunch of physics equipment she appears to spend most of her time marvelling at ice bergs and penguins, abseiling around the continent, and giving us explicit details of the everyday ordinary stuff. Advanced technology in an extreme environment, fantastic stuff!"

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  1. A Picture Says a Thousand Words by fembots · · Score: 5, Funny

    At time like this, isn't it better to have a videolog or photolog?

    I'm not very well-travelled, so it's a bit overwhelming for me to imagine "The sun came out for the first time in a few days and turned the smooth ocean into a mirror which reflected the bergs" without linking it to DiCaprio.

    And how do I decode "sshhhhhHHHHHH" or "KSHHHXXXXXX" or "CRACK CRUNCH GCKKXX"?

  2. Re:'abseiling'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Abseiling: Lower oneself with a double rope coiled around the body from a mountainside

  3. Yellow snow by Linuxathome · · Score: 4, Funny

    Publish a picture of yellow snow in the antarctic and I'll look at the photolog.

    1. Re:Yellow snow by nerdling+ed · · Score: 1

      I've already done this -- see the weblog post 'deep musings'

  4. Firefox unfriendly :( by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unfortunately her blog renders badly on this install of firefox, anyone else getting overlapping between the two panes?

    1. Re:Firefox unfriendly :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I get it too. I don't really care anyways, if she can't have her page render on Firefox then 1) she is not a nerd (hence this is not a nerdling article) and 2) I will not read it.

    2. Re:Firefox unfriendly :( by momerath2003 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't work on safari either.

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    3. Re:Firefox unfriendly :( by jacksonj04 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep, I see the same. How hard could it be to use some real CSS and check it in something other than IE?

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    4. Re:Firefox unfriendly :( by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      Also on Konqueror and Firefox under Linux.

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    5. Re:Firefox unfriendly :( by isorox · · Score: 1

      It caught a virus of slashdot, but dont worry, apparently its HTML 3.2 comapatable!

    6. Re:Firefox unfriendly :( by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, from other comments, this one is worse than slashdots bug.

      It doesn't fix itself with a redraw.

      I don't know who to be pissed off at here really.

      I don't know enough about css style sheets and rendering to be able to identify the problems in the page, and I don't know enough about how firefox handles problems like this.

      All I know is it happens too fucking much.

      Can somebody please show the site owners the primary failure points in their code so the owners can fix the problem without having a cryptic mail or posting telling them to "make it standards compliant".

      Something like "change the tag your using for page margins and it will work with more browsers".
      Most of these page authors don't understand deep stuff, they build from templates and CMS blog type tools, give them a hand.

      The web used to be codable with notepad, and it has always been VERY forgiving of simple mistakes, it appears as though Firefox has drawn a line and (quite rightly) won't step over it.

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    7. Re:Firefox unfriendly :( by jacksonj04 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Basically, Firefox should try rendering pages in an IE 'quirks' mode if they have no doctype definitions, or certain definitions. What I see increasingly is pages proclaiming themselves (through doctype definitions) to be XHTML 1.0 Strict compliant when in reality they're still in HTML 4.0.

      This causes Firefox to go "OK, we will render this page completely according to the specs" and it duly doesn't get it quite right.

      IE in these situations goes "Oh, i know it *says* it's XHTML 1.0 Strict but *I* think it's really XHTML 1.0 Transitional", and renders it how the writer thinks they intended.

      I prefer Firefox even if half the web looks wrong - I know my pages are standards compliant when I code them and theyy check out in the W3C validators.

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  5. Drinking at the southpole by yorkpaddy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here is an interesting story I read about drinking at the south pole. Modern Drunkard South Pole

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    1. Re:Drinking at the southpole by yorkpaddy · · Score: 1

      I don't understand what you mean? I didn't write the modern drunkard article.

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  6. Why I should never go to Antartica by MagicDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    I should never go down there, because I would probably torment the penguins. Am I the only one who's curious about what it would be like to run through a flock of penguins to see if it would it be anything like running through a flock of pigeons?

    1. Re:Why I should never go to Antartica by leathered · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're a very brave man to admit on Slashdot that you have the urge to torment penguins.

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    2. Re:Why I should never go to Antartica by MagicDude · · Score: 1

      Too bad Polar Bears are only in the arctic. The only place you'll polar bears and penguins together are in a zoo.

    3. Re:Why I should never go to Antartica by legirons · · Score: 1

      "You're a very brave man to admit on Slashdot that you have the urge to torment penguins."

      Walks up to a penguin: "Excuse me, are you Gentoo? I'm looking for some KDE programs" Penguin stares blankly back at the scientist. "Ok, nevermind". Scientist tries the next penguin

    4. Re:Why I should never go to Antartica by cvdwl · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Been there, done that, they (emperors) didn't care much, though we weren't in the group responsible for tackling and imprisoning them. Nor do they care about 2-cycle snowmobile motors or large red Snow-Cat like vehicles. The penguin research group actually had several wander up to their enclosure, wait patiently, then walk in when someone opened the door.

      Adelies were a bit more skittish, but even they would stroll up and give you a good looking over from a range of a few feet.

      DISCLAIMER: No penguins were harmed in the filming of our research!

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    5. Re:Why I should never go to Antartica by kevcol · · Score: 1

      Fantastic photos- especially at Shackleton's hut.

      Thanks for posting those links.

    6. Re:Why I should never go to Antartica by meringuoid · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who's curious about what it would be like to run through a flock of penguins to see if it would it be anything like running through a flock of pigeons? As a wise man once pointed out, ever seen a angry penguin charging at you in excess of 100mph? You'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had.

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  7. Lake in Antarctica? by Gary+Destruction · · Score: 1

    Isn't there an underground lake in Anarctica that yields the possibility of life on Europa?

    1. Re:Lake in Antarctica? by mmontour · · Score: 3, Informative

      You're probably thinking of Lake Vostok.

    2. Re:Lake in Antarctica? by icebattle · · Score: 1

      Yes, the Europans moved there when global warming rendered life impossible on their own planet.

  8. "Just to" by oexeo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Just to prove that science is cool; Tania, the editor of Nerdling zine has travelled to Antarctica just to publish some interesting reading material on her blog.

    I don't think "just to" means what you thinks it means.

    1. Re:"Just to" by 0x20 · · Score: 1

      the first "just to" doesn't refer to Tania.

    2. Re:"Just to" by rodrigo_braz · · Score: 1

      On the contrary, the semi-colon is precisely the reason why it doesn't refer to Tania.

  9. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by KillerCow · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...just another self-obsessed, self-promoting, intellectually challenged blogger.

    But... you said that you liked my blog. You said that I was very talented. Was that just to get into my bed?

  10. didnt know that abseiling was a verb by Hank+Chinaski · · Score: 1

    ab = german down
    seil = german rope
    abseilen = german verb

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  11. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by IO+ERROR · · Score: 1
    And that's why I used to hate blogs. Now I have one of my very own. And my first rule is, I don't talk about myself on my blog. Nobody really wants to read about me anyway. See below for what I do talk about.

    This definitely was not front-page material. In the Science section, maybe. After all I did learn how to make friends with penguins, and that's an important life skill!

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  12. Re:Lake in Asia? by Gary+Destruction · · Score: 1

    Europa is one of Jupiter's moons.

  13. Re:'abseiling'? by dukoids · · Score: 1

    In German it means to rope down but also to steal away.

  14. Re:Wow. Wow. Just WOW! by Hatta · · Score: 1

    Jesus, Richard, that's quite the story description. Have an orgasm over this, did you?

    I wouldn't be surprised. Tania is damn hot.

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  15. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by yorkpaddy · · Score: 1
    With regards to the concurrently running poll - "What will kill the internet?" it's a shame "Blogging" isn't one of the options.
    It won't kill the internet just as commercial sites haven't killed the internet. What it will do is add extra noise to the internet. It will make it harder to find useful, interesting sites. I have a blog and I talk about myself there a lot. I don't expect my blog to be interesting to everyone. If someone finds it interesting, great, if not there are plenty of other sites that people can read on the internet.
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  16. wait a tic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...isn't that the same bitch who claimed to jump her kawasaki over the chernobyl reactor or whatever?

    1. Re:wait a tic... by kandela · · Score: 1

      No, it's not.

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  17. Re:didnt know that abseiling was a verb by Thwomp · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well in English it is! :-)

  18. Re:didnt know that abseiling was a verb by dukoids · · Score: 1

    According to http://dict.leo.org "to abseil" is an English verb (with the same meaning = to rope down). In German, "abseilen" also means to steal away.

  19. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by athakur999 · · Score: 1

    I feel your pain. Every blog story here should be prefaced by why exactly we should care about the blogger in question. Something like:

    You should care because author...
    ( ) Was on Star Trek
    ( ) Is a Linux kernel developer
    ( ) Is a Mozilla developer
    ( ) Is a hot girl
    ( ) Has pictures of hot girls in their blog
    ( ) Other (you should not care)

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  20. I haven't been there... by leehwtsohg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But I could imagine circumstances in antarctica in which it would be very hard.

  21. Scientific Indeed. by DeathByDuke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Advanced technology in an extreme environment, fantastic stuff!

    Yeah when are they going to get to finding Atlantis? I want a cool puddle jumper thingy.

    1. Re:Scientific Indeed. by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      They've done that recently (again) - here's the BBC news article from 15th November:

      New claim on location of Atlantis

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  22. 6000 male scientist blogs go un-noticed by Red+Moose · · Score: 3, Funny
    In other Slashdot news, 6000 other web logs by male scientist reporters continue to be unimportant due to their lack of being female.

    Next up: a girl called Kristin installs Linux.......hold off whacking it just yet.

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    1. Re:6000 male scientist blogs go un-noticed by kandela · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And I suppose you're one of those nerds who wonders why there aren't any girls interested in what you're doing and wonders why nobody talks to you at parties.

      If you'd read the blog without making a pre-judgement you'd see why it was getting attention when some others aren't and it's not because she's female but instead because it's beautifully written and inspiring.

      In the early days of Australian exploration, the relevent European powers counted a poetic ability as one of the requirements for an explorer. Tania would have met that requirement, her blog effectively describes the beauty of the pursuit of science that we nerds know it to possess, but that we forget others do not share. What makes this blog (and Nerdling) great is that it not only makes science accessible to non-technical types it relates our love of science.

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    2. Re:6000 male scientist blogs go un-noticed by Red+Moose · · Score: 1

      I would have read the bloody thing if it wasn't slashdotted, so rather than leave a post go uncommented I just went with the usual meaning behind such front page news.

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  23. The Best Site on Antarctica: Big Dead Place by Nova+Express · · Score: 1
    To my mind, the best web page on the reality of an everyday working stiff's life in Antarctica is Big Dead Place. It casts a rather cynical eye on the dubious glories of "working for science" there.

    And there's that great review of John Carpenter's The Thing : "The most noteworthy deviation from actual USAP practices is that in the film everyone has a flamethrower...In the actual USAP, employees are forbidden flamethrowers."

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  24. Sail on, etc. by Trailwalker · · Score: 1
    most of her time marvelling at ice bergs and penguins, abseiling around the continent,
    Abseiling is descending via a rope, i.e. rappelling.

    Poster must have thought it was some sort of boat.
  25. need link to picture by anonymous21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There needs to be a new rule: Whenever linking to a story by a chick, please also include a link to a picture of her. This will save countless hours as every male slashdotter tries to search for a pic of her on their own.

  26. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by metlin · · Score: 1

    While I agree with you that this is definitely not Slashdot material, I can see why someone might want to keep a blog of their expedition.

    Back in the days, the captain kept the log of the journeys and the happenings - today anyone can keep a blog of what's going on.

    If not anything, it'll provide the future generations with lots of (albeit mostly boring) historical material :)

  27. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by pritchma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I actually found it quite interesting. Having never been to Antartica, I learnt quite a few things:

    * China has a base there
    * Ships take 10 hours to get into "port" with much crunching of ice along the way.
    * Penguins aren't even remotely afraid of people.

    Your post doesn't really add anything to the discussion. If you don't have anything useful to say, read the next article!

  28. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by dan+dan+the+dna+man · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, you just offered me the highest traffic linkbacks...

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  29. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by IO+ERROR · · Score: 4, Funny
    I met my girlfriend through a 'blog, largely because I was open about myself and my interests.

    by Anonymous Coward

    This is some serious industrial-strength irony.

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  30. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1

    Blogs will "peak" just like free web space like GeoCities is on the way out. Blogs will reach a point where the only people "blogging" are 13 to 15 year old teeny-bops.

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  31. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by yorkpaddy · · Score: 1

    Blogs are one of the best things about the internet. They give the little guy a voice. Granted many of the may be boring, biased, or stupid, so are many stories posted by maintstream media. I would much rather have the problem of searching through a lot of bad articles hoping to find a good one as opposed to hoping the only articles that are presented to me are good.

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  32. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by T.Hobbes · · Score: 1

    Anybody at any time could keep a log of anything. The parent poster's beef, and my own, is that bloggers put their log on the web and expect other people to care about it.

  33. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by metlin · · Score: 1

    I think it would be the other way around - blogs will only be used by serious people, and the teeny-bop generation will just lose interest and move on to another fad.

    Just like the teeny-bop generation lost in webpages and moved on to Blogs. They've a very short attention span, and there was a time when every other teen had a website about herself, her dog, her boyfriend and Britney. Now that's changed and it's a Blog.

    When teeny-bops started having websites, people felt that websites would go out of fashion and only Generation Y would have websites - rather, Gen Y got out as quickly as they got in and there are still plenty good websites and the number is growing.

    Blogs are too powerful a medium for serious bloggers to lose interest.

  34. Science in Antarctica will be worthwhile... by CodeWanker · · Score: 1

    when we find a life form that evolved there from scratch instead of adapting from warmer climes. If there's a beasty of ANY level of complexity there that originated in the icy south, we'll have a MAJOR leg up on looking for life in non-human-friendly biospheres on other planets.

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  35. Re:Mmm Blog Linkage by metlin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it's just a human thing for others to take notice of what you are upto. Just that Blogs provide people with the illusion that there are *actually* people who read your Blog and are interested in what you're upto.

    And that feeling encourages people to write logs in situations where they otherwise wouldn't have.

  36. Cynical Slashdotters by kandela · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm sorry, but this is one of the most beautiful and personal accounts I've ever read about science. I can't believe that the people who read slashdot, who are apparently lovers of science and technology can't see this blog for what it's worth. Somebody wrote that 6000 blogs by male scientists are being ignored - well I'm a male scientist and the reason I read this blog and not others is because apart from being witty in the way us science types like, beautifully written in a literary style, it's informative and most of all it's INSPIRING. No other blog out there that I've seen gives so much of the blogger. Tania is a most inspiring person, she's a person who LOVES science and if you guys can't see past the fact that the page only loads properly in IE and read the love of science then, as far as I'm concerned, you can't call yourself nerds!

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    1. Re:Cynical Slashdotters by mevets · · Score: 1

      I agree; although I had hoped for pictures of her joining the 300 club.

  37. Re:Wow. Wow. Just WOW! by Hatta · · Score: 1

    Say what you want, if she worked in my lab I'd be all over that. And yeah, I prefer maryann to ginger too.

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  38. It's still codable in Notepad by ccmay · · Score: 1
    The web used to be codable with notepad

    It's still codable in Notepad, or BBEdit in my case. Content rules!No dancing teddy bears in Flash for me.

    -ccm

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  39. Re:'abseiling'? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    Any relation to Albanifest ?

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  40. Yellow snow is impossible.. by khrtt · · Score: 1

    Publish a picture of yellow snow in the antarctic and I'll look at the photolog. ..in the Antarctic - the piss freezes on the fly, and drops to the ground in little yellow piss-ice-balls - didn't you know?

  41. Re:Lake in Asia? by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1
    Indeed, but from another poster's link:
    Like Lake Vostok, Jupiter's moons Europa and Callisto may hold liquid water beneath a thick, icy crust. Lake Vostok may hold clues to whether life could survive in a dark extraterrestrial ocean, and may allow scientists to practice looking for it.
    Some weirdo analogous situation reasoning, it appears.
  42. Particle physicists are waaaay ahead of you by cstepan · · Score: 1

    Ice makes a pretty good Cerenkov radiator. Just ask the folks on AMANDA and RICE.

  43. The Ubernerdling by vulcanrob · · Score: 1

    Wow! Tania is on slashdot. This is how you can tell a nerdling has arrived. Do check out her site when the traffic dies down, her main thing, or internet thing is her fabulous 'zine, the nerdling. It is really inspiring, makes you want to put on a lab coat, mess up your hair and wander around the campus bumping into things. You will love her account of iceland, I still laugh about it, but then I still laugh about Kirk saying "this increases it's power by one to the fourth power" As a disgruntled former scientist, this gives me hope for the future, for a few minutes anyway. Once the slashdot effect has died away, read the nerdling!