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Mozilla Thunderbird Reaches 1.0

An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 is now available for download on Mozilla's FTP server." Here is the press release announcing the release. Virtual folders and RSS integration, coupled with the recent hype surrounding Firefox, might give this sucker some serious momentum.

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  1. Release Notes by Tiberius_Fel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Release notes are available here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releas es/

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    1. Re:Release Notes by Eil · · Score: 4, Insightful


      Seriously, I don't get how exactly this stuff is news. It's getting tiresome already. I wouldn't mind if it was once a year or something "Thunderbird 2.0 is now out", but it's every week or so and its brutal (Thunderbird 1.0.1b is out!).

      Well, you could always do what the rest of us do when we come across a story on the Slashdot home page that doesn't really interest us:

      Scroll down a few lines and proceed to the next one.

      Give it a shot, you'll be amazed how well it works.

  2. Memory Footprint by TrollBridge · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe it's just my own perception, but Thunderbird seems to be a bit bulky, judging by how long it takes to open. Am I totally out of my league here, or is Thunderbird a little chunky?

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    1. Re:Memory Footprint by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It is a little sluggish, however, it's still an order of magnitude (literally) faster than Outlook when both have a large message store.

      Outlook was taking 30 seconds or more to open a folder, which was one of the reasons I dropped it for Thunderbird several months ago.

      Ironically, Outlook Express never had this kind of problem.

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    2. Re:Memory Footprint by Paleomacus · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's that 'Express' in the title. It makes things go faster!

    3. Re:Memory Footprint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, it's chunky, but being able to run the newest Thunderbird is worth the cost of you upgrading to a 486.

  3. CCK please by lopingrhondo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm still waiting for a Firefox/Thunderbird CCK that will let me customize them in a way that would make distribution worthwhile here at work. NS through 7.1 gave us the ability to make custom accounts and mail settings before install. Yes, we use Netscape as the default browser/mail suite here. We do exist!

  4. Torrent by youngerpants · · Score: 5, Informative

    And as the servers take the same hammering they took when Firefox was released, heres a torrent crafted by my own fair hands

    http://www.youngerpants.com/thunderbird.torrent

  5. Re:But will it let me backup my mail store? by Bricklets · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'd be happy if I could just specify where the data is stored like most apps (even Microsoft ones).

    Use the Profile Manager to specify where you want your data stored. I've kept my mail in the My Documents folder since forever.

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  6. Re:But will it let me backup my mail store? by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's like complaining that a Linux application stores user data in the user's home directory and system-level data in /etc. That's the standard, it's how all applications are supposed to work. FireFox follows Microsoft's standards to the letter, thus allowing multiple users to have separate FireFox profiles, and allowing non-administrators to run the software. (Woe is me! If only most off-the-shelf applications adhered to that standard) And yes, you can override those settings if you want.

  7. optimizing a mail client is pointless by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative
    came across this win32 optimized version (depending on your processor).

    [siiigh]. Considering much of what a mail client does is either disk or display, and not very repetitive, processor-specific optimizations will do little to no good. Even search functions are largely disk constrained if the mailbox is big enough that search time becomes an issue on any modern system.

    If it was a Pi calculator, or a game (in which a miniscule difference in per-frame loop time makes a huge difference in frame rate) I could see the point, but this is just silly

  8. In Other News by NardofDoom · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Thunderbird Bad for Advertisers"

    "My business has been cut ten fold by this communist software" say veteran spammer Ima A Shole. "I don't know how anyone expects to have free web sites if they don't let independent businessmen like me advertise porn and \/|@gr.r.r.a."

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  9. Re:Any other choice? by Finuvir · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I don't want Outlook Express, Mozilla Mail&News and Mozilla Thunderbird, what else *Open Source* e-mail clients can I choose in Windows?

    Telnet

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  10. Re:Any other choice? by rduke15 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Open Source other than Mozilla, all I can think of would be Pine.

    The "Program for Internet News & Email" from University of Washington. Version 4.58

    If you need a multi platform program, this one seems to cover them all. Amiga, BeOS, VMS, you name it... It looks like it even runs on a plain text terminal, so I could probably set it up to handle my mail on my 486 Linux firewall. Or maybe on my coffee machine? I'll have to look whether there is a pre-compiled version for La Pavoni (because the Pavoni's don't come with a compiler).

    But even though I do like text terminals, shells and command lines, I don't think that is how I would like to manage my email. Not even to spare my eyes all the pictures and colors the HTML spam throws at them.

    For me, I'm still staying with Eudora, and only occasionally use Thunderbird when I want to send an HTML mail, and it's a bit too complex for Eudora, but not enough to use Dreamweaver and put it on a web site. Eudora is neither open source nor even free (there is a "sponsored" version with ads), and does not run on Linux. However, on Windows (or Mac), it's still the best I know: plain text mail storage, separation of atachments, regular expression searches, and the most powerful filtering I have seen (on any arbitrary header and/or the body, including with regex'es, and with several "actions" happening sequentially with filtered mails)
  11. Re:But will it let me backup my mail store? by Flooded77 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're paranoid (like me), just get Mozbackup. It will make a backup file of your Thunderbird/Firefox/Mozilla profiles (and mail). I've had no problem with it.

  12. Re:Why won't they add a calendar? by bhtooefr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sunbird is the calendar you're looking for. Also, there's an XPI (IIRC) that's been around for quite a while that will plug into Mozilla, Firebird, or Thunderbird (Sunbird is actually a fork of this XPI to a standalone program). It's called Mozilla Calendar. Both are available at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/

  13. Re:Icons by gclef · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, one of the things I'd love to see in Thunderbird, but may take a while, is tabbed accounts similar to the tabbed browsing for Mozilla. In other words, each email account would appear in Thunderbird as a tab. (You could put a little email icon in the tab if that account has new mail.)

    That would (I think) clear up some valuable window real-estate for those of us with multiple email accounts.

  14. Re:Why won't they add a calendar? by T-Ranger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The buzz word is not "email client" but "personal information manager". Of course, these are two different things. The later requires the former, but not the other way around.

    Just as Firefox is a lean, mean, browsing machine, Thunderbird should be a lean, mean, email reading machine. If you want a calendar, then get something else.

  15. This is wrong. by eMartin · · Score: 4, Informative

    This feature is not included with Firefox or Thunderbird, as it is with full Mozilla.

    There is an extension that adds it back to Firefox (Thunderbird evenetually), but there are some side effects.

  16. Still not feature complete by anticypher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1.0 means they have transitioned from alpha grade early release project to a first beta release.

    Thunderbird is missing too many basic features to allow it to be rolled out to corporate users, or family members, or just about anyone not 100% geek. It still doesn't handle outgoing servers correctly. Filtering is difficult to use, can't deal with IMAP correctly, and sometimes just doesn't work at all.

    The spam filtering still needs a lot of work, there needs to be an option to white list the entire set of local (and/or ldap) address books, not just a single one. When people keep separate address books for business and personal contacts, you then have to choose which book to whitelist. There's been a bug in bugzilla for quite a while now on that one.

    LDAP incompatibilities, IMAP SSL handling, customisable UI, IPv6 support, the list goes on and on. I would have prefered if the dev team spent a few more months dealing with all the little problems that will keep this entirely out of business rollouts, and fixed the minor bugs which have lingered forever.

    Maybe with the 1.0 early beta release, the current dev team will move on, and more capable Open Source volunteers will step up and finish the job. I, like many others, were driven away from the forums and bugzilla because of hostile attitudes and incessant bickering over extremely minor points. We tried to help, but some FLOSS projects aren't as deserving as others.

    I haven't been able to convince anyone to switch over to 0.9 from outlook, or even Pine (so you know its got to suck). No major feature requests were addressed between 0.9 and 1.0, this is just a minor incremental release.

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