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PA Sues Online 'University' For Spamming

CousinLarry writes "Online 'university' Trinity Southern University (Google cache of disabled site homepage) has been sued by the state of Pennsylvania." Besides spamming, this self-described school has, as another reader points out, "awarded an MBA to a cat owned by an undercover Pennsylvania deputy attorney general." I bet my cat could get a PhD.

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  1. Smart Cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one welcome our new feline overlords

  2. Real Victim by teiresias · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The real victim here is any online College or University that's trying to become a credible institution. With process stories like this few people will want to take the option of online Universitys and even fewer employers will take them seriously.

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    1. Re:Real Victim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, degree mills like this hurt all American universities. I was talking with the head economist of a UK based multinational a while ago, and he throws all American CVs in the bin unless the university is a well known and respected one, simply because he doesn't have time to fuck about checking their accreditation.

  3. Why is anyone surprised??? by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article:

    Besides spamming, this self-described school has, as another reader points out, "awarded an MBA to a cat owned by an undercover Pennsylvania deputy attorney general."

    Thereby reducing the average IQ of cats, while greatly increasing that of MBAs.

    1. Re:Why is anyone surprised??? by tootlemonde · · Score: 5, Informative

      Thereby reducing the average IQ of cats, while greatly increasing that of MBAs.

      The poster is alluding to a quote by Mark Twain:

      If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat.
      - Notebook, 1894

      More Twain quotes on cats here.

  4. What happens when you don't force accreditation by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll take Britain's godless socialised education every day over educational free market capitalism. Employers shouldn't have to waste time determining whether a university is real or not. This is just as disruptive as the fear of litigation that prevents people giving bad references

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  5. Better mirror by Zen+Punk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Has Timothy(or the submitter) never heard of The Internet Archive?

    You can actually look at the pictures, too.

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  6. uce@ftc.gov by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Like most people, I get way too much spam to forward every single piece to the FTC. But I *do* make it a point, whenever a piece of spam for fraudulent university degrees makes it past my filters, to send those e-mails along.

    I wouldn't mind so much if:

    * Getting a college degree at any level weren't so much work
    * Getting a college degree at any level didn't cost so much
    * There weren't so many underprivileged highly intelligent people who never get college degrees because they can't afford it or are under the impression that they can't get financial aid

  7. Cat with an MBA by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's see, cats:
    Expect everyone else to do the hard work
    Fuck things up and cause damage through boredom
    Demand the best of everything without being willing to work for it
    Boss people around
    Fly into fits of rage
    Have short attention spans
    Spend 21 hours a day resting

    Is there any reason a cat shouldn't have an MBA?

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  8. Not all distance learning is a scam by The+Mutant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is an active on-line community at DegreeInfo.com who research and discuss the merits of each institution.

    Here in the UK The Open University has been providing fully accredited distance learning since the early 70's.

    I went to a brick and mortar Uni myself, but have worked with several graduates of such institutions, both in the banking and academic worlds (I'm a banker and part time visiting lecturer at a local Uni), and they were fine; like most things, you get out of it what you put into it.

  9. Re:You insensitive clod by rsidd · · Score: 4, Funny
    Ah but has your cat published a paper in Physical Review Letters?

    More about the second author of that paper (scroll down to "Hetherington and Willard article)

  10. Re:I don't understand by Feanturi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been getting these diploma spam emails for almost as long as there has been spam, and it always struck me as fraud and made me wonder why they weren't being arrested. You're not just cheating yourself, you get cheated as well, and for money. That's fraud, as it devalues the real thing, and fleeces the ignorant. It's about time someone started getting in trouble for it, only took like 11 years or so.

  11. Depends on what you expect from one by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the end, it's not really whether the cat or the dog is smart, it's whether it does what you expect from a pet. That's usually (A) what people mistake for "intelligence" and also (B) what motivates them into grasping at straws for "proof" that their favourite pet is smart.

    Some people seem to like the unconditional obedience of an animal hard-coded to obey the pack leader. Even if the "pack leader" is a human.

    In that case it's "Bowser is soo smart. He comes here when I call him!" And typically also "bah, cats are dumb/evil/etc because they can't be bothered to obey."

    Some of us, on the other hand, have no need for basically a biological Tamagochi hard-wired to obey.

    We like a cat precisely _because_ it's independent and doesn't need a "master". Cats are not pack animals, so they really have neither a "master", nor "servants" or "staff". You may be a cat's room mate, or friend, or a danger to be avoided, or (in rare cases) even an enemy. Either way, you can know that it's the cat's genuine assessment of you, and not some hard-wired reflex kicking in.

    So we tend to generalize and anthropomorphise the other way around. "Yay, Fluffy is so smart because she can think for herself and doesn't need a master." And conversely "Dogs are complete retards for _needing_ to be someone's slave."

    In reality, both points of view are false and based on false premises.

    An animal's intelligence is what helps it stay alive in its natural environment, _not_ how well it fits your emotional need. In that aspect, both felines and dogs/wolves are "smart", just in different ways.

    Wolves have perfected survival by hunting larger prey in packs, so teamwork and having a pack leader is essential. A lone wolf can't kill, say, a deer, so acting as a pack is what their very survival depends on. So for the pack to work, the animals are basically hard-wired to follow and obey the leader. It's a survival trait.

    Felines on the other hand, with some exceptions (e.g., lions), live on prey they can kill one-on-one. Not only they don't need a pack to hunt, and not only there isn't enough meat on their prey to feed a whole pack, but a pack would also get in the way of stealth. If you've watched a cat hunt a mouse, you've noticed that it relies on not being seen until it gets within relatively short range. Trying to do that as a whole pack of cats, would just dramatically increase the chances of being detected early.

    Hence, for cats the survival trait was to _not_ follow someone else.

    Both approaches work, so they're both intelligent.

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  12. obligatory smart-ass kid joke by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 5, Funny

    A first-grade teacher, Ms. Brooks, was having trouble with one of her students. The teacher asked, "Harry, what's your problem?"

    Harry answered, "I'm too smart for the 1st grade. My sister is in the 3rd grade and I'm smarter than she is! I think I should be in the 3rd grade too!"

    Ms. Brooks had had enough. She took Harry to the principal's office.

    While Harry waited in the outer office, the teacher explained to the principal what the situation was. The principal told Ms. Brooks he would give the boy a test. If he failed to answer any of his questions he was to go back to the 1st grade and behave. She agreed.

    Harry was brought in and the conditions were explained to him and he agreed to take the test.

    Principal: "What is 3 x 3?"

    Harry: "9".

    Principal: "What is 6 x 6?"

    Harry: "36".

    And so it went with every question the principal thought a 3rd grader should know.

    The principal looks at Ms. Brooks and tells her, "I think Harry can go to the 3rd grade."

    Ms. Brooks says to the principal, "Let me ask him some questions."

    The principal and Harry both agreed.

    Ms. Brooks asks, "What does a cow have four of that I have only two of?"

    Harry, after a moment: "Legs."

    Ms. Brooks: "What is in your pants that you have but I do not have?"

    The principal wondered, why would she ask such a question!

    Harry replied: "Pockets."

    Ms. Brooks: "What does a dog do that a man steps into?"

    Harry: "Pants"

    Ms. Brooks: What's starts with a C, ends with a T, is hairy, oval, delicious and contains thin, whitish liquid?

    Harry: "Coconut."

    The principal sat forward with his mouth hanging open.

    Ms. Brooks: "What goes in hard and pink then comes out soft and sticky?"

    The principal's eyes opened really wide and before he could stop the answer.

    Harry: "Bubble gum"

    Ms. Brooks: "What does a man do standing up, a woman does sitting down and a dog does on three legs?"

    Harry: "Shake hands."

    The principal was trembling.

    Ms. Brooks: "What word starts with an 'F' and ends in 'K' that means a lot of heat and excitement?"

    Harry: "Firetruck"

    The principal breathed a sigh of relief and told the teacher, "Put Harry in the fifth-grade, I got the last seven question wrong.

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