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Non-Invasive Computer Control Through Brainwaves

mikael writes "An article on the BBC website is reporting that U.S. scientists have managed to develop a 'thinking cap' which allows a computer to receive commands from the electrical activity of a person's brain alone. Comprised of 64 electrodes, this cap allowed two users to control a cursor through pure thought alone, rather than through eye movements or other physical gestures." Unlike some previous efforts, this one doesn't require anything to be implanted in your brain.

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  1. Woo hoo! by DrStrangeLug · · Score: 5, Funny

    The end of left handed surfing!

    1. Re:Woo hoo! by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why does my computer keep going to gay porn sites now that I hooked up this brain control device? I'm not gay.

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    2. Re:Woo hoo! by Kombat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why does my computer keep going to gay porn sites now that I hooked up this brain control device? I'm not gay.

      Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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  2. First thought... by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Funny

    Saw the headline and thought "Non-Invasive Brain Control Through Computers". I need a new tinfoil hat.

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    1. Re:First thought... by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, the firing of individual neuron is not nearly as interesting as the pattern in which large groups fire. If you know the transform equation, you can derive what the whole thing is doing by sampling from a few key points.

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  3. could this be... by domenic+v1.0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    could this be the first actual useful tinfoil hat?

  4. Electrodes by Treacle+Treatment · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one will be waiting for the 128-electrode technology to come out so I can think faster.

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    1. Re:Electrodes by venicebeach · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, there are 128 electrode arrays, which are used quite frequently in cognitive neuroscience research. (see here for example.) However, they take longer to put on (you have to make sure each electrode makes a good connection with the scalp) and the increased spatial resolution (which is minimal since signal is quite smoothed by going through the skull) is not necessary for an application like this one.

      This is not new, by the way. There were some studies done back in the early 90s using only two electrodes where people learned to move a cursor around on a screen. Just one on the left hemisphere and one on the right, and you hook it up so that different relationships between the activity at the two sights controls the different parameters of movement on the screen.

      See Wolpaw, JR., McFarland DJ, Neat GW, Forneris CA. An EEG-based brain-computer interface for cursor control. Electroencephalogr Clin Neurophysiol. 1991 Mar;78(3):252-9

  5. What does the person think? by superstick58 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So what exactly goes through the person's mind when they are moving the cursor. Do they just think "Left" and "Right" etc. Or do they simply have to look in the direction they want the cursor to go? It'd be interesting to try it out. It would bring me one step closer to utilizing the power of the force.

    1. Re:What does the person think? by MacJedi · · Score: 4, Informative
      "Each dimension of cursor movement ... was controlled by a linear equation in which the independent variable was a weighted combination of the amplitudes in a mu (8-12 Hz) or beta (18-26 Hz) rhythm frequency band over the right and left sensorimotor cortices."

      (Jonathan R. Wolpaw and Dennis J. McFarland. Control of a two-dimensional movement signal by a noninvasive brain-computer interface in humans. PNAS published December 7, 2004, 10.1073/pnas.0403504101)

      From the methods and diagrams in the article looks like the slower mu oscillations moved the cursor in the horrizontal axis and the vaster beta osicllations moved the cursor in the vertical axis.

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    2. Re:What does the person think? by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Have you ever just had fun playing with your brain?
      ...
      If you do it right you can trick your brain into thinking you have another limb or two.

      I recall seeing a documentary about a doctor that cured a patient of problems with a "phantom" limb. The patient had lost a hand, had problems with feeling as if it was still there, but in an uncomfortable position. The doctor fixed it by making a simple box that created a mirror image of the missing limb, and telling the patient to place his hands in the box. The mirror image tricked the patient's brain into thinking the hand was still there and allowed him to move it around. Here's a link I found.

      There was also some connection between missing limbs and tactile senses on other parts of the body. Apparently, the human body maps onto the surface of the brain. In some cases, when people lose a limb, the unused sensory area on the brain gets confused with nearby areas that correspond to different parts of the body. Here's a link.

      As for what you are talking about - tricking the brain about your limbs - there is some mention of that as well.

  6. Invasive by teiresias · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because invasive would be that long spike jammed into the back of your cranium in the Matrix.

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  7. Good, good.. by hab136 · · Score: 4, Funny

    .. now get cracking on the bi-directional interface. I need my legion of computer-controlled human drones to do my evil bidding!

    Robots and sharks with lasers on their heads can't do everything, you know.

    1. Re:Good, good.. by ArsonSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

      I for one welcome our new....

      Nevermind.

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  8. bout damn time by AviLazar · · Score: 3, Funny

    because I, like the rest of you, have other uses for our hands while surfing the net.
    On a real note (though the above is true), imagine playing CS or any FPS game with mind control. Now it will even mean that shooter games will be won by the smartest - not the most physically capable (hand to eye coordination).

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  9. Re:Mental power by Dana+P'Simer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is not outside the realm of possibility, however, as Carl Sagan was fond of saying "Extrodinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Those who claim to have extra sensory perception (ESP) have consistently failed to substatiate those claims when scrutinized with truly scientific methods.

  10. A cruder version of this is used to treat ADD by EbNo · · Score: 3, Informative

    My wife (working on her PhD in psychology) was part of a program where children diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder would play PlayStation games with a special controller in order to teach them how to strengthen their focusing skills.

    The controller was tied to a machine which monitored the level of a certain brainwave (I don't remember which) and if the levels fell outside predetermined parameters the controller would cease to function properly. This helped teach the kids how to maintain focus while performing a task that required constant attention. The 'brain interface' part looked like a baseball cap with lots of little sensors inside, no neurosurgery required.

    I tried it myself (I do not have ADD) and it was interesting how difficult it seemed at first to 'grasp' the required level, and how second hand it became after a few minutes of play (obviously the patients took quite a bit longer). It was a neat alternative / addition to drug therapy. I'd bet there is a lot of value in this more accurate control interface for future treatment.

  11. Re:Mental power by Icarus1919 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a hell of a lot more difficult to believe.

    Putting electrodes right next to the brain and using computational power to detect the VERY faint electrical signals within the brain is worlds and worlds apart from someone being able to pick up these electrical signals from the span of -- let's say two feet away to be fair -- THROUGH THE AIR and having it penetrate their skull, and then being able to interpret these electrical signals into meaningful thoughts. Keep in mind that since every mind is different, the electrical signals in one brain that signify a certain thought -- let's say something simple such as "I like cheese." can be fairly different from one person to the next because of the way the synapses are linked and pulse their electrochemical signals to make up said thought. I consider this to be an even greater obstacle than the electrical signals from the brain going through the air. The electrical signals to move a cursor are so much simpler than the simplest of thoughts (I like cheese).

  12. Re:Tactile Feedback by Flamesplash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You are correct, which means that to be in any way feasible for the average user it needs to be quick and accurate. There's a HCI technique called Fitt's law which measures the amount of movement required to perform actions with an interface, the lower the number the better and you could conclude that high numbers lead to RSI et al.

    So something that removed the need to make many fine grained movement, which we are good at but maybe shouldn't do to the excess that computers require, would be a good thing

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  13. Directional Bias? by 14erCleaner · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does it move left when you think of Kerry, and right when you think of Bush?

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    1. Re:Directional Bias? by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Funny

      the real question is, if put on Bush, would it move at all?

  14. Re:This was a good idea in the 80s by Treacle+Treatment · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, now if we can just get more cowbell ...

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  15. Similar stuff at WorldExpo 2000 by grungeman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At the WorldExpo 2000 in Hannover/Germany, the Swedish booth showed something similar. Two contestants were wearing tin foil hats that measured their brain activity. The higher the brain activity, the lower the score, so the goal was to be more relaxed than the opponent.

    The great thing was that the most ambitious people had no chance, because their brain was too active in wanting the victory. Pretty cool, watching two guys relaxing the hell out of each other.

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  16. I know these guys by noser · · Score: 4, Informative

    The work is pretty neat. They put a sock thing on your head and measure your brainwaves. Apparantly not everyone can be trained to use the system. There was a long screening process where they looked for people with brain patterns that they could read. I signed up for the screening but I was never called; I guess they got all the volunteers they needed. My friend went in for the screening; they make you wear the reader thing on your head while you concentrate on a dot moving through a very simple maze. Evenutally you get to try to control the dot; that's as far as my friend reached. I know that eventually they move you up to an actual "Armitron" toy that they wired up to the monitors. It is very cool research.

    This stuff isn't geared to replacing your keyboard and mouse. The hook is the promise of developing the technology for better artificial limbs; but think about it. If a disabled person can control their own artificial arm with brainwaves; why not a big crane? Why not a crane on a battleship or out in orbit?

  17. Feh. Lossy both ways. by Mal-2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Getting electrical signals to OR from the brain through an intact skull is going to be a lossy process. In the case of getting signals out, this is apparently manageable. But as for getting signals IN, it's not going to work -- this way at least. This doesn't rule out some much more precise (and much more advanced) tech in the future, but this isn't going to work for making zombies.

    Besides, is drilling a hole in the head of your zombie really THAT bad?

    Mal-2

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  18. Re:Mental power by bloodredsun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes you are the only person and this ain't paranormal research

    I'll come clean and say that I spent 4 enjoyable years studying "energy waves" from the brain, also known as EEGs (Electroencephalograph).

    A MSc in Epileptology and a PhD in Clinical Neurophysiology later, my considered opionion is that there is a world of difference between "monitoring" activity in the brain and actually making sense of it. EEGs, MEGs and FMRIs can give you a world of data but the specifics you can attach to this are very limited. Even in epileptology, where EEGs have been used for over a hundred years (since 1897), the clinical power of EEGs is far less than a lay person could imagine.

    To receive "useful" signals of peoples thoughts, there would have to be a series of breakthroughs in dipole modelling, brain function mapping, and a whole host of other technologies. Otherwise you are restricted to the gross/obvious signals such as alpha, beta and delta rhythms

    Another point against pychic receptivity is that the receiving brain is also giving off its own signals at a far greater amplitude than the "transmitting" one; the equivalent of listening to someone whisper a foriegn language at the end of a football field in a howling gale while you bellow what ever is on your mind.

  19. Re:Mental power by Glock27 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The scientific method is a process for proving something as definitely untrue or possibly true.

    Um, no. Part of the scientific method is to perform experiments in which measurable results are observed in the real world in a repeatable fashion.

    Why these results occur is often explained by a theory, which apparently is what you refer to above. However, why ESP works would be a strictly secondary issue alongside it's actual existence, if observed. Fairly simple experiments should be able to demonstrate telepathy if it exists - see the famous Duke University experiments for example.

    I hope that cleared things up a bit for you.

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  20. Re:Mental power by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You are assuming that mental processes are EM fields. They are not. Thinking does produce an EM-field, but its like the wake of a boat.

    We don't know what conciousness is made of. Thus we do not know its true limitations. And that's not voodoo talking. That's the scientific community.

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