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Tougher Copyright Laws for Australia

smee2 writes "The Age reports Tougher copyright laws linked to the Australia-US free trade agreement (FTA) have been passed by the Australian parliament, AAP reports. The bill, which passed the Senate last night, will enable people other than copyright owners to force internet service providers to take down material allegedly infringing copyright."

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  1. the wild wild west by u-238 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that is the internet will not last forever. cherish it.

  2. Potential Problem? by smclean · · Score: 5, Interesting
    So is it then illegal to send notices to companies making allegations of copyright violations which are not true? If not, then a good way to get this law removed or modified would be to send out hundreds of e-mail to websites alleging copyright violation where there is none taking place. It would become common practice to ignore such requests, and those that were 'legitimate' would be lost in the crowd. The expense to businesses would be enormous and the law would be modified.

    Am I missing something?

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    1. Re:Potential Problem? by shahruz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey! That is my post. We need to remove it from the internet. :)

  3. From TFA... by ttys00 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Asked whether the US would not object to such watering down, Coroneos said it was a case of treading another fine line. "We are meeting Mr Vaile tonight in Canberra to work on the regulations which would be used to soften the bill," he said.

    Who cares if the US objects to laws in Australia? How is it any of the their business?

  4. Re:Kazaa by Propagandhi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even if Kazaa is shut down by these new laws (or some others already on the books or in the queue*) will it really affect P2P traffic?

    Personally, I don't even use Kazaa anymore; it's so overrun with half downloaded songs and mislabeled files that it's nearly useless and better alternatives are already in place to grab the standard should/when Kazaa fall(s). In fact, cleaning out the dregs that the Kazaa network has become will only increase the efficiency of the P2P machine.

    Sites like Suprnova and Shareconnector verify the content before providing links to the torrent or donkey file, eliminating the possiblity of a mislabeled or otherwise misleading file. Sure, the speed can be slightly slower, but faster alternatives (Bearshare, Ares) are also available for the speed freaks. And unlike Kazaa, these newer apps are willing to share networks, rather than trying to corner the market.

    Napster showed us that killing a single app (even one as prevalent as Napster was) hardly interferes with the P2P machine, I don't think any legislation will manage to slow it down.

    * denotes bad P2P joke

  5. Previous Slashdot article by RenHoek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rember this one?

    Censoring The Net With A Hotmail Account

    I think Australian ISP's will be very busy for the coming time..

  6. We need more time! by malsbert · · Score: 5, Informative

    And the term of protection for copyright material was extended by 20 years. because 50 to 120 years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries'_co pyright_length will just not give you enough time! (personel note: wiki is wrong right? it can not be THAT long!!!)

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    1. Re:We need more time! by Beolach · · Score: 4, Informative
      Wikipedia is not wrong (in this instance). From An introduction to copyright in Australia :
      How long does copyright last? This varies according to the type of material. The general rule which applies until 31 December 2004 is that copyright lasts from the time the material is created until 50 years after the year of the creator's death. Note, however, that there are a number of exceptions to this general rule. Once copyright has expired, anyone can use the material without permission.

      From 1 January 2005 the rules on how long copyright last will change. This will affect any material still in copyright on that date. This is as a result of the Free Trade Agreement Australia has negotiated with the United States. The effect of the changes is that, from 1 January 2005, copyright will generally last until 70 years after the death of the creator, bringing our law into line with the period of copyright that applies in the United States and Europe. For further information, see our information sheet Duration of copyright .
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  7. From your friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Australia,

    Stop following our example. IT IS NOT A GOOD ONE.

    Your friend,
    The U.S.

    1. Re:From your friend by Frogbert · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear U.S

      We have no control over what our government does for the next three years, the liberals have a majority government.

      Your Bitches,
      Australia

  8. A recent book... by Evil+Pete · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... even highlighted the main issues. How to Kill a Country. A bit dramatic but the agreement undermines some crucial aspects of our sovereignty. The PM (Prime Minister) laughed off the IP issues as just "technical matters". Yeah right. Shafted a-fucking-gain.

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  9. FTAs and why they suck by initialE · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm in Singapore, which is also in a bilateral FTA with the USA. My concern is that the FTAs that are being pushed through are actually a blatant attempt to enforce american law in countries where they have no prior influence over. If you're looking for a governing body over the entire internet, there it is, America is becoming the Nazi that will police the cyberstate of the Internet(s!). Of course, living in the commie state that I do, you'll never hear any of these concerns voiced over the mass media channels, which are all but overflowing with praise for the government and their clever negotiating of this FTA. Fear.

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  10. Re:Globalisation by Beolach · · Score: 4, Funny

    Heh. If you were really Americanized, you would have spelled it Globalization.

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  11. Re:Our new overlords.. by polysylabic+psudonym · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A bit of a broad brush, perhaps. Please don't say "the people in Canberra". I'm a Canberran, I'm not a politician and I'm certainly not a dog.

    I utterly despise US style copyright. It's a travesty of freedom.

    Copyright should be there to encourage authors - how does paying their publisher 70 years yonder help the author?

    Under the previous Australian system authors got 50 years after their death, companies got 50 years from date of publication. May terrible things happen to those who put Australia in the position we're now in.

  12. add to the electronic surveillance bill to that by cobbler_26 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not only has this copyright bill gone through, they also just passed an Electronic Surveillance bill that "regulates the use of surveillance devices (data, optical, listening and tracking devices) by law enforcement agencies and.... also significantly widens the circumstances in which they can be used and the types that can be used." where is the government free space??

  13. Re:Well, what do you expect... by michaeldot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He means Australia should make friends with the school bully in order to prevent getting the crap beaten out of it.

    And so to achieve this, what the school bully wants, the school bully gets.

  14. Re:Well, what do you expect... by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    M8 it's called geo-political advantage. We Aussies call it "suckinup" and Johnny is our champ at it. We do stupid shit like vote against Kyoto, support Isreal's state terror, and other such crap. Why? So the US doesn't look so fucking lonely at the UN. The "IP colonists" have been trying to use us as a testbed & springboard for a while now and have had some success. The BIG thing Australia has that the BIG boys want is strategic position.

    Obligitory: We do need overlords but I for one would much rather be welcoming back our EU overlords.

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  15. FTAs are bad news... by Goonie · · Score: 4, Interesting
    IP activists in America might do very well to pay more attention to what its government does in FTA negotiations. Not only does it force the rest of the world to sign up to your stupid friggin rules, it will make them much more difficult for America to change them when the time comes that you start winning the arguments in Congress.

    The Australian FTA is particularly bad for Australia (from a purely monetary American perspective, you should be glad the Australian government is such a ham-fisted negotiator), but I don't think it's particularly unique here. In fact, FTAs are bad news all round - and this is coming from a perspective of mostly being in favour of free trade. They force all sorts of stupid tracking costs so you can prove that you're not acting as a transshipment point for goods from countries not covered by the FTA, cause all sorts of distortions, and serve as a convenient political cover to force through all sorts of measures multinationals like but citizens aren't so keen on.

    Frankly, I think the rest of the world should gang up on the United States at the next round of WTO negotiations and demand looser IP laws. Even if they don't get them it's a hell of a bargaining chip to get the US to play ball on a lot of other issues.

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  16. Creative, Lawful Retaliation? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've heard very little discussion about how we (people who believe copywright and patent law has tipped too far in the corporations' favor) can use these laws AGAINST the big guys.

    An earlier post suggested overwhelming Aussie ISPs with inaccurate copyright-breach claims.

    But how about taking these laws to their logical, unreasonable conclussions on the lawmakers' and coprorations' own turfs?

    For example:
    - Bring coypright violation claims against the websites of the Aussie parliamentarians / senators / corporations that supported the bill.

    - Try to find ACTAUL copyright violations of these guys. Then tell ISPs to bring down these offending sites. But do it in a trickle of death. I.e., don't tell the site maintainers about all infringing content at once. Rather, tell the ISP about it once offence at a time, requiring a new take-down---fix-content---bring-up cycle for each offence.

    - Develop our own submarine patent portfolio for use against corporations.

    I think at best this could get new versions of the law up for consideration by lawmakers. Unfortunately, that just gives the special interests more of an opportunity to craft law to our disadvantage.

    How do we actually get the lawmakers to TRY to craft law that's fair or even anti-copyright? Is there no way we can do it, since they ALWAYS ultimately follow the money?