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Tougher Copyright Laws for Australia

smee2 writes "The Age reports Tougher copyright laws linked to the Australia-US free trade agreement (FTA) have been passed by the Australian parliament, AAP reports. The bill, which passed the Senate last night, will enable people other than copyright owners to force internet service providers to take down material allegedly infringing copyright."

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  1. the wild wild west by u-238 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that is the internet will not last forever. cherish it.

    1. Re:the wild wild west by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No the internet cannot survive, if people were forced to obey corrupt intellectual slavery laws.

      I"P" is censorship.

  2. Well, what do you expect... by Beolach · · Score: 3, Funny

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    1. Re:Well, what do you expect... by UPi · · Score: 3, Informative

      Joke aside, Australia has a good reason to play nice with the United States. Remember that Australia has vast resources, is much richer than neighboring countries AND has very little in the way of a defense force. Compare it to Indonesia, and guess which would have reason to conquer the other.

      This puts a pressure on Australia to either build a greater army (not much chance with 20 million people vs 240 million) or seek powerful allies... Allies which have a political and economical stake.

    2. Re:Well, what do you expect... by deletedaccount · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You think Australia should strengthen copyright to help defend itself from an Indonesian invasion force?

      Thats one to add to the '101 easy ways to win IP trials' manual. Are you on crack?

    3. Re:Well, what do you expect... by michaeldot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He means Australia should make friends with the school bully in order to prevent getting the crap beaten out of it.

      And so to achieve this, what the school bully wants, the school bully gets.

    4. Re:Well, what do you expect... by cranos · · Score: 3, Funny

      Of course, if all the plans to invade Australia are under copyright the Indonesians aren't going to be able to figure out how to do it!! It's brillaint!!

    5. Re:Well, what do you expect... by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      M8 it's called geo-political advantage. We Aussies call it "suckinup" and Johnny is our champ at it. We do stupid shit like vote against Kyoto, support Isreal's state terror, and other such crap. Why? So the US doesn't look so fucking lonely at the UN. The "IP colonists" have been trying to use us as a testbed & springboard for a while now and have had some success. The BIG thing Australia has that the BIG boys want is strategic position.

      Obligitory: We do need overlords but I for one would much rather be welcoming back our EU overlords.

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    6. Re:Well, what do you expect... by fireman+sam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And yet the Australian Govt refuse to sign a peace agreement with most of the countries around the Asia pacific area.

      Hmmm, we have fatter wallets, weaker defences, and yet we refuse to enter into peace with our neighbours.

      Eventually it will be The world versus Australia + America + England

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    7. Re:Well, what do you expect... by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "School bully" my ass.

      Hell, over here we call that kind of relationship "Prison Wife."

    8. Re:Well, what do you expect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you can't tell the difference between someone who straps bombs to himself and blows up innocent school children and someone who demolishes his house in return, you've been warped by the global sissies. This is how they make it acceptable to crash planes into buildings, blow up embassies, take school children hostage and murder them, and decapitate citizens of other countries among many other things

      BS. Opposition to Israeli violence against Palestinians and opposition to Palestinian violence against Israelis are not mutually exclusive.
      Though you are taking it a step further, and equating disaproval of Israeli violence with approval of terrorism in general. This is completely absurd. Some of us are opposed to the killing of innocents, for whatever cause, be it 'Islam' or 'the War On Terror'.
      The reason the GP mentioned only Israeli violence is that the US and some of its allies actively support this violence.

      The UN is the only place where common base thug can put on a $4000 suit and be considered a statesman by the rest of the world.

      It's not the only place - what about the White House? Oh yeah, no one considers him a statesman, never mind.

  3. Kazaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Isn't Sharman Networks based in Australia? I wonder if this will affect Kazaa.

    1. Re:Kazaa by EvilCabbage · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Certainly is, and $5 says it will.

      Time for me to start posting short home made movies on my site with catchy titles, like "irobot.avi" and "titanic.mpeg".

      I'll take the pepsi challenge with these fuckers any day of the week.

    2. Re:Kazaa by Propagandhi · · Score: 5, Informative

      Even if Kazaa is shut down by these new laws (or some others already on the books or in the queue*) will it really affect P2P traffic?

      Personally, I don't even use Kazaa anymore; it's so overrun with half downloaded songs and mislabeled files that it's nearly useless and better alternatives are already in place to grab the standard should/when Kazaa fall(s). In fact, cleaning out the dregs that the Kazaa network has become will only increase the efficiency of the P2P machine.

      Sites like Suprnova and Shareconnector verify the content before providing links to the torrent or donkey file, eliminating the possiblity of a mislabeled or otherwise misleading file. Sure, the speed can be slightly slower, but faster alternatives (Bearshare, Ares) are also available for the speed freaks. And unlike Kazaa, these newer apps are willing to share networks, rather than trying to corner the market.

      Napster showed us that killing a single app (even one as prevalent as Napster was) hardly interferes with the P2P machine, I don't think any legislation will manage to slow it down.

      * denotes bad P2P joke

    3. Re:Kazaa by B747SP · · Score: 3, Informative
      Isn't Sharman Networks based in Australia?

      They're legally a Vanuatuan (sp? - based in Vanuatu - french South Pacific) company IIRC. Big chunks of their company operate out of Australia though. As you prolly know, they're battling something or other out with someone or other in the Australian courts at the moment.

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    4. Re:Kazaa by Agret · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sites like Suprnova and Shareconnector verify the content before providing links to the torrent or donkey file, eliminating the possiblity of a mislabeled or otherwise misleading file.
      You are mis-imformed my friend. suprnova doesn't verify the contents of a file. There was a CSS wallhack on there that was actually a pass stealer. Which I used Ethereal to grab the pass to the FTP it uploaded to and got myself some Half-Life 2 Steam Accounts.

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    5. Re:Kazaa by Talez · · Score: 2, Informative

      Kazaa is a funny thing.

      It's registered in Vanauatu. The entire thing is coded by outsourced coding team LEF Interactive.

      When users clickthrough the Kazaa EULA they are bound by the laws of New South Wales. Everything about the company is basically mercenary, even the CEO.

    6. Re:Kazaa by LardBrattish · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And of course the BEST bit about Vanuatu is it is illegal (punishable by imprisonment) to ask who owns a limited company there. Perfect for people who want a little anonymity - Like Kazaa.

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  4. Potential Problem? by smclean · · Score: 5, Interesting
    So is it then illegal to send notices to companies making allegations of copyright violations which are not true? If not, then a good way to get this law removed or modified would be to send out hundreds of e-mail to websites alleging copyright violation where there is none taking place. It would become common practice to ignore such requests, and those that were 'legitimate' would be lost in the crowd. The expense to businesses would be enormous and the law would be modified.

    Am I missing something?

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    1. Re:Potential Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I see this as a posible way to silence people. If they say something you don't like, just claim that they are infringing on a copyright. I'm sure you could find something somewhere for anything.

    2. Re:Potential Problem? by shahruz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey! That is my post. We need to remove it from the internet. :)

    3. Re:Potential Problem? by mvdw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I thought exactly this approach when I skimmed the article (some 3 hours before it appeared on slashdot, mind). However, I was thinking more along the lines of alleging copyright abuse on government sites, rather than companies'.

    4. Re:Potential Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
      > Am I missing something?

      The organization, and coordination, to do this on a wide enough front to have any effect. Although Slashdot is quite the pot for brewing, rarely anything actually gets cooked.

      I had someone with a grudge pretending to be a lawyer write a letter to my webhost demanding my site be taken down. The bar association didn't have enough to bring him up on practicing without a license but it was enough for my webhost to remove content.

  5. Our new overlords.. by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article:

    Tougher copyright laws passed
    Canberra
    December 8, 2004 - 9:30AM
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    Tougher copyright laws linked to the Australia-US free trade agreement (FTA) have been passed by parliament, AAP reports.

    The bill, which passed the Senate last night, will enable people other than copyright owners to force internet service providers to take down material allegedly infringing copyright.

    The internet industry raised concerns in a brief inquiry held overnight that the changes could bog down the industry with automated copyright claims.

    The bill also made minor and technical amendments to the Copyright Act and the FTA implementation laws to improve Australia's implementation of its copyright obligations.

    The changes followed last-minute talks between Australia and the US to finalise the FTA which takes effect on January 1.

    The FTA for the first time gave performers economic and moral rights in sound recordings.

    A number of criminal offences were broadened to target copyright breaches for financial gain or commercial advantage and significant infringements on a commercial scale.
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    New provisions were introduced in relation to the unauthorised receipt and use or distribution of encoded broadcasts.

    And the term of protection for copyright material was extended by 20 years.

    The Australian Greens and Democrats voted against the bill, saying it would impact on freedom of speech and media diversity on the internet.

    Sam Varghese adds:

    Internet Industry Association chief executive Peter Coroneos said the bill had passed after Trade Minister Mark Vaile had exchanged a letter with his Opposition counterpart Simon Crean, pledging to work with the industry in drafting regulations that would "take the sting out of the bill."

    Asked whether the US would not object to such watering down, Coroneos said it was a case of treading another fine line. "We are meeting Mr Vaile tonight in Canberra to work on the regulations which would be used to soften the bill," he said.

    He said the bill was likely to go to the executive council by the 16th.

    Asked whether the Americans would not object to such "regulations", Coroneos said he had no comment about what the reaction would be on the US side.

    He said the IIA had been working with the negotiators for the last 18 months and had reached agreement on suitable copyright provisions, acceptable to the Australian industry, in July.

    Coroneos said the changes - introduced because of section 154 of the US Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act 2004 - which had the internet industry up in arms, was shown to him only last Thursday.

    "It may look like a last-minute effort but it is not," he said.


    Reading the article, it seems like the people in Canberra are like dogs, looking up to their masters and asking if they can do this, or that..

    It's truly a sad day for all Australians

    1. Re:Our new overlords.. by polysylabic+psudonym · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A bit of a broad brush, perhaps. Please don't say "the people in Canberra". I'm a Canberran, I'm not a politician and I'm certainly not a dog.

      I utterly despise US style copyright. It's a travesty of freedom.

      Copyright should be there to encourage authors - how does paying their publisher 70 years yonder help the author?

      Under the previous Australian system authors got 50 years after their death, companies got 50 years from date of publication. May terrible things happen to those who put Australia in the position we're now in.

    2. Re:Our new overlords.. by microsnot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "The Australian Greens and Democrats voted against the bill, saying it would impact on freedom of speech and media diversity on the internet." Strange that they should say that, especially when we don't have freedom of speech in our bill of rights.

  6. From TFA... by ttys00 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Asked whether the US would not object to such watering down, Coroneos said it was a case of treading another fine line. "We are meeting Mr Vaile tonight in Canberra to work on the regulations which would be used to soften the bill," he said.

    Who cares if the US objects to laws in Australia? How is it any of the their business?

    1. Re:From TFA... by Jarr · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wish it were that simple, but increasingly over the past years Australia has been turning more and more to the US for "guidance" and in return the US has had things to say on Australian policy on more than one occasion (including their preference for our current government over the opposition, in our recent elections). The sad thing is that Australians seem to listen; we can't seem to think for ourselves anymore, and everything has to have the approval of the US. It's just about to the point where the US elections were more important to us than our own. It's be nice if our Government had the balls (or brains) to think on its own.

    2. Re:From TFA... by mabinogi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Canberra doesn't need anything other than for other Australians to recognise that Canberra has nothing whatsoever to do with what goes on under that aluminium monstrosity on the hill.

      Canberra voted Labor - both Federally and Locally, as it almost always does...

      I think you meant to say "The Federal Government"

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    3. Re:From TFA... by the+angry+liberal · · Score: 3, Funny

      The sad thing is that Australians seem to listen; we can't seem to think for ourselves anymore, and everything has to have the approval of the US. It's just about to the point where the US elections were more important to us than our own. It's be nice if our Government had the balls (or brains) to think on its own.


      That really sucks man. Don't worry, you have nothing to learn from us except how to gain 40lbs at McDonalds in 30 days.

      I would have helped you out, but I am not an electoral voter so what I have to say doesn't count.

    4. Re:From TFA... by mitsuhama · · Score: 2, Funny

      We use the metric system here you insensitive clod.

    5. Re:From TFA... by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow. This is totally off-topic.

      But I've always felt this as well. Surely the difference in mass doesn't make any difference in terms of story telling. "But do they mean 120 metric tonnes or non-metric tons? This plot is far too confusing if they don't explain that one".

  7. Previous Slashdot article by RenHoek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rember this one?

    Censoring The Net With A Hotmail Account

    I think Australian ISP's will be very busy for the coming time..

    1. Re:Previous Slashdot article by krymsin01 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, well your notice infringes my copyright.

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  8. *sigh* by essence · · Score: 3, Funny

    it's creeping creeping. I hate to think how much of a police state this place will be in 10 years.

  9. We need more time! by malsbert · · Score: 5, Informative

    And the term of protection for copyright material was extended by 20 years. because 50 to 120 years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries'_co pyright_length will just not give you enough time! (personel note: wiki is wrong right? it can not be THAT long!!!)

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    1. Re:We need more time! by Beolach · · Score: 4, Informative
      Wikipedia is not wrong (in this instance). From An introduction to copyright in Australia :
      How long does copyright last? This varies according to the type of material. The general rule which applies until 31 December 2004 is that copyright lasts from the time the material is created until 50 years after the year of the creator's death. Note, however, that there are a number of exceptions to this general rule. Once copyright has expired, anyone can use the material without permission.

      From 1 January 2005 the rules on how long copyright last will change. This will affect any material still in copyright on that date. This is as a result of the Free Trade Agreement Australia has negotiated with the United States. The effect of the changes is that, from 1 January 2005, copyright will generally last until 70 years after the death of the creator, bringing our law into line with the period of copyright that applies in the United States and Europe. For further information, see our information sheet Duration of copyright .
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  10. From your friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Australia,

    Stop following our example. IT IS NOT A GOOD ONE.

    Your friend,
    The U.S.

    1. Re:From your friend by Frogbert · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear U.S

      We have no control over what our government does for the next three years, the liberals have a majority government.

      Your Bitches,
      Australia

    2. Re:From your friend by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 2, Informative
      "Stop following our example. IT IS NOT A GOOD ONE."

      Following our example? In a couple ways, the Australian copyright laws are worse than the US laws. First, with America's DMCA, only the copyright owner (or someone authorized to act on their behalf) can send a takedown notice. In contrast, this Australian law seems to allow third-parties to send complaints (although the article was unclear on whether that meant anyone or just specific third-parties).

      Also, Australia's got some bad laws when it comes to format shifting. Over there, if you rip a CD that you own to mp3, you've violated the copyright laws. It doesn't matter if you own the CD, don't share the mp3s, and only listen to the mp3s while the CD is in your possession -- it's still technically illegal.

  11. That does it, I'm moving to Canada... by B747SP · · Score: 3, Funny
    That does it, I'm moving to Canada.... no, wait...

    (I'm posting from Australia, it's a joke!)

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    1. Re:That does it, I'm moving to Canada... by ibentmywookie · · Score: 2, Funny

      New Zealand is our Canada, dim wit :)

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  12. A recent book... by Evil+Pete · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... even highlighted the main issues. How to Kill a Country. A bit dramatic but the agreement undermines some crucial aspects of our sovereignty. The PM (Prime Minister) laughed off the IP issues as just "technical matters". Yeah right. Shafted a-fucking-gain.

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  13. FTAs and why they suck by initialE · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm in Singapore, which is also in a bilateral FTA with the USA. My concern is that the FTAs that are being pushed through are actually a blatant attempt to enforce american law in countries where they have no prior influence over. If you're looking for a governing body over the entire internet, there it is, America is becoming the Nazi that will police the cyberstate of the Internet(s!). Of course, living in the commie state that I do, you'll never hear any of these concerns voiced over the mass media channels, which are all but overflowing with praise for the government and their clever negotiating of this FTA. Fear.

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  14. Re:Globalisation by Beolach · · Score: 4, Funny

    Heh. If you were really Americanized, you would have spelled it Globalization.

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  15. Re:Globalisation by Zonnald · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Capitalism does not kill people - people kill people.

  16. Re:This country is the laughingstock of the intern by ashridah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ahahaha.
    dude, they already did that 5-6 years ago. It didn't work then, infact all it did was drive a few porn-site operators out of Australia and move their hosting to the US, where it was CHEAPER to host the data (by a reasonable margin, what's more). Just take Abby Winters as a good example (google it yourself). She was pissed that she had to stop paying an Australian company money to host her material, even tho it was more expensive, iirc.

    The blacklisting that was supposed to accompany it was a complete joke, what's more, and has failed miserably, a grand total of about 20 sites got reported in the first year or two, and no-one's heard of it since.

    Good to see that Australia doesn't have the parents television council or whatever that bunch of whackos they have in the US is making things 'safer' for Australians (yet, *knocks wood*)

    ashridah

  17. Free Trade Agreement and file sharing by thornfield · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't get it - this is a Free Trade agreement - file sharing is the acme of free trading??!

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    1. Re:Free Trade Agreement and file sharing by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't get it - this is a Free Trade agreement - file sharing is the acme of free trading??!

      It's newspeak. Free trade isn't free. Conservatives aren't conservative. Liberals arent liberal. The PATRIOT act is unpatriotic. The war on terror is a war on freedom.

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  18. add to the electronic surveillance bill to that by cobbler_26 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not only has this copyright bill gone through, they also just passed an Electronic Surveillance bill that "regulates the use of surveillance devices (data, optical, listening and tracking devices) by law enforcement agencies and.... also significantly widens the circumstances in which they can be used and the types that can be used." where is the government free space??

  19. So much for the "Public Consultations" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    After the FTA was signed but before the enacting legislation, a bunch of sham "Public Consultations" were held. Lots of small businesses and individuals gave many good reasons why (especially) the IP related parts were very damaging to Australia and gave all the advantages to America.

    End result: Nothing changed.

    Thank you, Canberra, for selling me out yet again, you short sighted bastards!

  20. Copyright extension by Marlor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The big deal was not the copyright enforcement provision, but:

    "...the term of protection for copyright material was extended by 20 years"

    and

    "New provisions were introduced in relation to the unauthorised receipt and use or distribution of encoded broadcasts"

    These will have a real impact on IP in Australia.

  21. FTAs are bad news... by Goonie · · Score: 4, Interesting
    IP activists in America might do very well to pay more attention to what its government does in FTA negotiations. Not only does it force the rest of the world to sign up to your stupid friggin rules, it will make them much more difficult for America to change them when the time comes that you start winning the arguments in Congress.

    The Australian FTA is particularly bad for Australia (from a purely monetary American perspective, you should be glad the Australian government is such a ham-fisted negotiator), but I don't think it's particularly unique here. In fact, FTAs are bad news all round - and this is coming from a perspective of mostly being in favour of free trade. They force all sorts of stupid tracking costs so you can prove that you're not acting as a transshipment point for goods from countries not covered by the FTA, cause all sorts of distortions, and serve as a convenient political cover to force through all sorts of measures multinationals like but citizens aren't so keen on.

    Frankly, I think the rest of the world should gang up on the United States at the next round of WTO negotiations and demand looser IP laws. Even if they don't get them it's a hell of a bargaining chip to get the US to play ball on a lot of other issues.

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    1. Re:FTAs are bad news... by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Even if they don't get them it's a hell of a bargaining chip to get the US to play ball on a lot of other issues.

      The US? Play ball on other issues? You forget who you're dealing with. The Shrubians have a policy of "our way or dead."

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  22. you forgot by tqft · · Score: 2, Informative

    to mention some of the existing doozies
    - identifying an inteligence agent
    - refusing to co-operate (no such thing as a right to silence)

    and don't forget The Crimes Act VIA 1914 (as amended)
    A sample
    http://courses.cs.vt.edu/~cs3604/lib/Crime/Austral ia.law.html/

    In some parts the Crimes Act VIA relating to Commonwealth data the onus of proof is reversed and possession of data = guilt until therwise established by a court of law

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  23. How Does that Even Begin to Make Sense? by Jameth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did they just say that someone can request a takedown for copyright material of they don't own?

    As far as I know, it is technically impossible for anyone but the copyright holder to know if the copyright is being violated. Why? Copyrights don't have to be enforced. Most people that don't care too much about their specific copyrights just don't bother to enforce them unless there is blatant plagiarism.

    Further, how would anyone but the copyright owner know if some agreement had already been made?

    Please tell me I am just incredibly misinterpreting it (and, yes, I did RTFA) and they aren't just being mind-bogglingly stupid.

  24. Creative, Lawful Retaliation? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've heard very little discussion about how we (people who believe copywright and patent law has tipped too far in the corporations' favor) can use these laws AGAINST the big guys.

    An earlier post suggested overwhelming Aussie ISPs with inaccurate copyright-breach claims.

    But how about taking these laws to their logical, unreasonable conclussions on the lawmakers' and coprorations' own turfs?

    For example:
    - Bring coypright violation claims against the websites of the Aussie parliamentarians / senators / corporations that supported the bill.

    - Try to find ACTAUL copyright violations of these guys. Then tell ISPs to bring down these offending sites. But do it in a trickle of death. I.e., don't tell the site maintainers about all infringing content at once. Rather, tell the ISP about it once offence at a time, requiring a new take-down---fix-content---bring-up cycle for each offence.

    - Develop our own submarine patent portfolio for use against corporations.

    I think at best this could get new versions of the law up for consideration by lawmakers. Unfortunately, that just gives the special interests more of an opportunity to craft law to our disadvantage.

    How do we actually get the lawmakers to TRY to craft law that's fair or even anti-copyright? Is there no way we can do it, since they ALWAYS ultimately follow the money?

    1. Re:Creative, Lawful Retaliation? by j0e_average · · Score: 2, Insightful
      VERY EASY --


      Stop going to movies, stop buying DVDs, stop buying audio CDs. Stop fueling their campaign against you!

  25. Re:So will we get fair use now? by HuguesT · · Score: 2, Informative

    Still no fair use clause in Australia. We did end up with the worst of both worlds.

  26. sending masses of fake takedown notices wont work by jonwil · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is likely to happen is that ISPs will simply bump up their prices to cover the cost of processing all those notices.
    And amend their terms of service so that when they process and act on a fake takedown notice there is nothing the customer can do against them.

  27. Artistic Movements are dead in US... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    and now they are succeeding in spreading it to the rest of the world. Throughout history talented individuals created artistic movements. These movements are often based upon the foundation built by others. Artists copied the work of others and then changed it to suit their needs. As these ideas became popular they were copied yet again from others. How long until even this will be not allowed? Imagine if you will what would happen if the precepts that are taking over in the entertainment field were to be applied to science? Imagine what would have happened to the newspaper industry if the current laws had been on the book back when it was starting to take off?

    I hope politicians in other countries aren't so ready to follow the US so blindly down the path to mediocrity. But it looks like it is too late for the Aussies.

  28. What the internet needs is a new P2P app by jonwil · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One that takes all the good things from the different networks and makes them into the ultimate P2P app.

    It should have:
    1.complete open unencumbered protocol specs
    2.Open Source reference implementation
    3.Complete encryption of all files shared along with random files being stored in random locations (i.e. like Freenet has where its next to impossible for anyone to tell exactly what files a given person is actually sharing). It should be designed such that even the owner of the machine has no way to know who is downloading what from their machine.
    4.Good search feature so you can find what you want easily (including an equivelent of the ed2k:// links so websites and stuff can link to files on this network)
    5.communication features (ala IM/chat) that let you find and talk to other network users.
    6.Encrypted network traffic. A great way to do this would be to encapsulate everything with SSH so that anyone in the middle only sees SSH requests. This makes it harder for service providers to shape or block it without harming all those who use SSH for its many many legitimate purposes such as CVS and remote access.
    7.It should feature downloading from multiple sources if available (i.e. spread the load around)
    8.It should feature a built-in program similar to peer-guardian and other such programs that can block IP address ranges owned by the copyright police (with the database being totally open for all to see as well as ways to add your own local entries if you want). Certainly this would be incorporated into the protocol specs and the reference implementation.
    9.It should be deasigned to be totally non-relient on any one central server or servers.
    and 10.It should be designed such that it does not require large system requirements (e.g. big CPU usage, large RAM usage, big disk space requirements etc) and so that it doesnt have undue bandwidth requirements (i.e. no more than current P2P apps require)

    Because its Open Source (and Open Specifications too), there is no central target to go after like there is with kazza or napster or audiogalaxy.
    Development of clients can happen in many countries and in many places making it impossible to stamp out. (plus, if its popular, it will be mirrored in plenty of places simply through that fact alone)

    Because its encrypted and goes over SSH (or something else standard if SSH is not sutable), its difficult to block this without getting legitimate users of that service annoyed

    Because it has the encryption and "files can be anywhere" features of Freenet its much harder for the copyright police to link files to machines/IP addresses (which makes figuring out who to sue harder) Also, this means that it would be possible to show (even in a court of law) that you didnt know that your file share contained copyrighted material, child porn, terrorist stuff, music not produced by the RIAA cartels or whatever else that the government who holds juristiction over the machine in question has decided to declare "illegal" this week.

    Because it has IP blocking (like Peer-Guardian etc) its easier to find where the copyright police are scanning from and stop them from connecting to your machine

  29. What is the standard to have standing??? by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The bill, which passed the Senate last night, will enable people other than copyright owners to force internet service providers to take down material allegedly infringing copyright.


    Will all people other than the copyright holders be able to do this? Will only the duly appointed representative of the copyright holder have any standing?

    The problem with such an open ended definition is that the quote in the submission makes it sound like anyone can suddenly make ISPs do all sorts of things.

    And to you Aussies, I feel for you. As a Canadian we frequently find that FTA with the Americans means "you must buy our stuff, but your cheaper made goods are unacceptable". It ends up feeling being a new open market to sell US goods without any reciprocation whatsoever. They're too busy passing laws to protect their own industries.

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    1. Re:What is the standard to have standing??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >As a Canadian we frequently find that FTA with the
      >Americans means "you must buy our stuff, but your
      >cheaper made goods are unacceptable".

      Why do you stand for it then?

      If your elected officials literally feared that they might not wake up tomorrow because the Canadian people are so angry at being sold down the river, they might make wiser decisions.

      But they know they are in no danger. Just like American politicians.

      We could learn a lot from places like Ukraine.

  30. Predictable counter- (and counter-counter-) moves by nusratt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Next:
    increasing usage of unbreakably anonymous/encrypted p2p mechanisms.

    Then:
    prohibitions on p2p, encryption, and "non-standard" ports & protocols.

  31. Must test links by tqft · · Score: 2, Interesting
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  32. Houses.... by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They do it to the relatives houses, the teenage bomber I assume is in bits. Collective punishment was a war-crime last time I checked. I don't support EITHER side and if we all did that it would never have been more than a bar brawl between Arrafat and Sharron. The Iserali's are terrorizing all Palesinians because of the crimes of some AND they are a modern state. Yes there are thugs at the UN, they stand up and say "your with us or against us" and sell weapons to all sides. It makes me want to puke that zenophobes like you applaud the same behaviour that lead six million to the gas chambers.

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  33. Re:Globalisation by KevinIsOwn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are right that globalization means Americanization for the time being, but the rest of your post is dead wrong.

    American values become a part of other cultures because America's culture is held in high esteem. Freedom and democracy hold lots of weight in the eyes of foreigners. America does not have to force its ideals on people, they openly accept them. Take fast food chains in Europe, for example. I have spent a good amount of time in Europe, and everyone I meet says how much they hate McDonalds, but they go there anyway. You see, Europeans in particular love to hate America. They say how much they hate McDonalds as they jam a big mac (or Royal, as it is called there) down their throat.

    The same holds true for the rest of the world. The more people despise American values, the more they become a part of their culture. Just do a little research instead of spouting off your anti-americanism. Almost all the leading figures on globalization agree on this: Globalization makes it incredibly easy for cultures to adapt pieces of other cultures into their own. America's culture is looked highly upon because of its freedom and openness. Therefore it is the one that is often taken from right now. In the future it may be a different culture.

    In the mean time, go research globalization while you eat fast food, listen to crappy MTV pop, and curse America.