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Face Recognition Needs 3 Areas Of Human Brain

sushant_bhatia_progr writes "Nature has an article on the recent discovery that face recognition in humans targets 3 areas of the human brain. Using mugshots of celebrities, Pia Rotshtein at University College London and her colleagues have shown that there are at least three separate areas for processing and recognising faces. One processes the physical features of the face, one decides whether or not the face is known, and a third retrieves information about that person, such as their name. Rothstein's team used a computer to create a series of images in which the countenance of film star Marilyn Monroe gradually morphed into that of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, or that of James Bond actor Pierce Brosnan transformed into current prime minister Tony Blair."

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  1. Gotta love it... by StevenHenderson · · Score: 4, Funny
    Using mugshots of celebrities...

    Gotta love having enough celebs with mugshots to run an entire research experiment. :)

    1. Re:Gotta love it... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

      Here's a sample

    2. Re:Gotta love it... by sushant_bhatia_progr · · Score: 3, Informative

      In our research lab we use a database of thousands of faces collected by CMU I believe. We also setup a system to collect face pictures using different pose and lighting variations, something not attempted on the scale we have used.

    3. Re:Gotta love it... by vandon · · Score: 2, Funny

      The question that's gotta be asked...
      Did this start out as an experiment or was it students playing with a graphics program?

      4 days until the research paper is due:
      Student1: Crap dude, we're going to fail unless we start our paper and an experiment!
      Student2: Hey, let's use this mpeg of Bush and Marilyn Monroe morphing and see what happens when people watch it.

  2. What a way by Locdonan · · Score: 2, Funny

    to kill off men and women's fantasies. Now all I see is Margret Thacher sing happy birthday, Mr. President.

    *shudder*

    I think I just inherited Wil Wheaton's sleeping disorder.

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  3. The horror section. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Rothstein's team used a computer to create a series of images in which the countenance of film star Marilyn Monroe gradually morphed into that of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, or that of James Bond actor Pierce Brosnan transformed into current prime minister Tony Blair."

    And the fourth part of the brain. Recognizing the horror of it all.

    1. Re:The horror section. by mikerich · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's only fairly recently that the British population noticed that Tony Blair had morphed into Margaret Thatcher...

  4. Though all three don't have to be functioning... by Transcendent · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...because I have a great memory for faces. I can almost always tell when/where I've seen a specific person...

    ...But I won't remember their name for the life of me...

  5. TFA by JollyRogerX · · Score: 3, Informative

    Celebrity shots probe face recognition

    Helen Pearson

    The brain uses three steps to identify faces.

    The features in this set of images change gradually, yet our brains flip suddenly from seeing Margaret Thatcher to seeing Marilyn Monroe. © Dr Jenny Gimpel/University College London By transforming the features of Margaret Thatcher into those of Marilyn Monroe, researchers have revealed hints about how our brains put a name to a face.

    Neuroscientists already know that certain spots in the brain play a vital role for recognizing a familiar face, even as it changes with age or a new hairstyle. But they have not been clear precisely what each area does.

    Using mugshots of celebrities, Pia Rotshtein at University College London and her colleagues have shown that there are at least three separate areas for processing and recognising faces. One processes the physical features of the face, one decides whether or not the face is known, and a third retrieves information about that person, such as their name.

    Rothstein's team used a computer to create a series of images in which the countenance of film star Marilyn Monroe gradually morphed into that of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, or that of James Bond actor Pierce Brosnan transformed into current prime minister Tony Blair.

    Although the physical features gradually change from one face into another, the researchers showed that subjects looking at the images tend to "suddenly flip" from seeing Marilyn to seeing Maggie, explains team member Jon Driver.

    The researchers then showed their subjects three different pairs of images from the array while they were in a functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) brain scanner. The two pictures in one pair were identical; in another pair they had different physical characteristics but were both still recognizable as Maggie; and in the other pair they differed by the same degree in their physical characteristics, yet one was still recognizable as Maggie and the other as Marilyn.

    The study allowed the team to pick out the three areas of the brain that carry out different tasks when someone walks into a room. The first region, a pair of structures at the back of the brain called the inferior occipital gyri, was most active when the physical features, such as eyes and hair, in the two pictures differed. It appears to analyse these physical characteristics.

    A second region, the right fusiform gyrus, located just behind the ears, was most active when one picture showed Maggie and one showed Marilyn. This region appears to distinguish between faces, perhaps by comparing the face to known ones.

    A third area, the anterior temporal cortex, appears to store knowledge connected to the faces. This region was most active when people knew the famous subjects particularly well; less so in those who, for example, were less familiar with the British politicians.

    The study is the first to clearly show these three separate stages of face processing, says psychologist Isabel Gauthier, who studies face and object recognition at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee.

    Driver says he now wants to study patients who, through injury or disease, have particular problems recognising people. Some people with prosopagnosia, or face-blindness, may be unable to recognise faces as familiar as their own children. Patients with dementia may struggle to put a name to a household face.

    Driver wants to examine whether he can match up patients' specific problems to different defects within the brain regions identified by the team. He also wants to find out whether some patients could be trained to revamp these failing regions.

    1. Re:TFA by NovaScotian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Some years ago (I've long lost the reference) a PhD student in Rhode Island digitized human faces with 256 points and then projected these points through the same points on an androngenous composite of hundreds of faces next to the sample; an "average" face. At some point in a plane beyond the reference face, the points at the ends of the projectors were then re-plotted and joined to form a caracature of the amplified differences between the sample face and the sexless "norm". She showed that her subjects were much more likely to recognize the characature than they were the actual face, and postulated that facial recognition therefore depended on a similar process. One of her samples was Ronald Reagan, but that's the only basis in time I can remember.

  6. Or maybe... by Zangief · · Score: 3, Funny

    We need 3 parts of the brain to recognize celebrities.

    -One to recognize the face and map it to its info.
    -One to categorize the info as hot girl or not.
    -One to ignore the not-hot-girls.

  7. Scary... by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 4, Funny


    Marilyn Monroe gradually morphed into that of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher

    Whoever though of that is one sick scary F***er!!!

  8. I dunno... by zenmojodaddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... it's pretty clear that Tony Blair has been morphing into Thatcher for years.

    Shame he doesn't have her balls, though.

  9. Forgot something by digitalchinky · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Saw a show on discovery maybe a year or two ago in which some guy had mapped a huge sample of faces down to a transparent relief. It was meant to be an ideal representation of what we look for as 'beautiful' in the opposite / same sex (or seperate species - depending on ones personal preference, not that I care anyway.) It seemed relatively accurate - at least when it was placed over the faces of movie stars and other popular entertainers.

    Which of their three categories provides that recognition?, I don't know, but maybe it is worth thinking about. Can't discount the primative sex urge.

    And boobs. Mmmmm Boobs... That's where I look first. The face, that might be second... might not...

  10. Brittany or Jessica by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Funny
    And all the 3 areas of my brain still can't figure out if that's Brittany on Jessica Simpson lip synching on TV.

    Sometimes, "context" can be more telling than just the face. Brittany's are way bigger, IMHO.

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  11. Re:mugshots? by deletedaccount · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Haven't you worked it out yet? It doesn't matter where they come from, All politicians are crooks.

  12. Re:Though all three don't have to be functioning.. by eMartin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Same here, but I found a trick that helps.

    When you meet someone, and they or someone else tell you their name, repeat it back ("oh, I have a cousin named Jill" or "hmm, John's an unusual name"), and there's a very good chance you'll at least remember what you said later on.

    I do something similar with passwords. Normally, they're a jumble of letters and numbers from something around me when I needed to think of them, and usually I can remember what that thing was, so the password then pops into my head.

  13. Classic fMRI experiment by Hug+Life · · Score: 5, Interesting

    IAAfA (I am an fMRI analyst) Of course, the last highly publicized study that gave us a "face recognition area" of the brain turned out to be a crock. The same haemodynamic response came from birdwatchers seeing birds, or car experts seeing cars. It was a cognitive recognition area, not just a "face recognition area". I wouldn't be suprized if this experiment had the same falicies (article wasn't very precise).
    Modularization: Great for OO programming, crappy for the human brain.

    1. Re:Classic fMRI experiment by joepa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Modularization: Great for OO programming, crappy for the human brain.

      IAWMUHTIPORI (I am writing my undergraduate honors thesis in philosophy on related issues) What sort of "modularization" are you referring to? Modularization of peripheral systems (input/output systems, i.e., the senses)? If so, you must realize that you would be in the extreme minority in opposing a modular architecture for these systems (see Jerry Fodor's Modularity of Mind, the standard treatment on peripheral systems modularity with which the vast majority of cognitive scientists agree).

      If you are talking about central cognitive systems (belief formation, inference to the best explanation, theory of mind, etc.) things get a bit more complicated. Recent empirical evidence seems to indicate that anatomical modularization of central systems is probably not thoroughgoing in the human brain. However, a lack of any real anatomical modularity does not mean that the human brain is not ultimately modular, in some sense of the word.

      The best evidence for conceptual modularity (that is easy for the non-expert to understand) is implicit in the arguments against the other major alternative for cognitive architecture: distributed connectionism (e.g., Parallel Distributed Processing). Specifically, distributed connectionist networks may be able to do certain specialized tasks -- such as optical character recognition -- rather well. But it is next to impossible to get a distributed connectionist network to do more than one thing well without the system eventually grinding to a halt. This is, in part, the result of the inability of a truly distributed connectionist network to maintain a manageable search space when serving multiple purposes.

      A modular central architecture, in contrast, can do any number of distinct tasks without the sort of combinatorial explosion that a distributed connectionist architecture is apt to run up against. This is because the modules within a modular central architecture are thought to be highly specialized to handle specific tasks. This feature of modular systems also allows us to see how the brain develops and might have evolved -- one specialized system at a time (for the most part). It is extremely difficult to even imagine how a general problem solver, such as a distributed connectionist network, develops or could have evolved.

      The most significant problem for modular cognitive (central) systems, then, doesn't involve a lack of thoroughgoing anatomical modularization, since we are often not talking anatomical modules when we talk about modularity. The main problem for the type of modularity that is popular these days has to do with the lack of a good way to tie all of the modules together to make a flexible system that has the surface appearance of being a general problem solver (as the anti-adaptationist Fodor points-out in his most recent book, The Mind Doesn't Work that Way , which is primarily a criticism of Steven Pinker's popular How the Mind Works ).

      In the past couple of years, several theories have been put forth to explain modular integration. Perhaps the most notable among these is that the natural language module serves as the modular integrator. The original article in which this theory was articulated in detail has been made available by the author on his website. The article with criticisms and the author's response to the criticisms is available only in the print edition of the journal Behavioral and Brain Sciences ("The Cognitive Functions of Language" in Volume 25, Issue 6).

      Again, then, the issue is a good bit more complex than the parent post indicated. In fact, if the cur

    2. Re:Classic fMRI experiment by joepa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I am curious as to what you think the conclusions of these debates in the "non-philosophical areas of cognitive science" have been. I could cite numerious articles that have come from people in cognitive science outside of philosophy in the past five years defending positions all across the board, from massive modularity to distributed connectionism and everything in between. Just look at the article from BBS that I mentioned above, particularly the replies, the response to the replies, and the associated citations in the bibliography of that article. It seems to me that the individual perception as to the current status of the debate depends on what area of cognitive science the individual works in.

      People who work in AI seem to take modularity for granted, currently, so they think that the debate is over and modularity has won. People in linguistics seem to like distributed connectionism a bit more than people in AI, although they are not generally sold on it. Psychologists are either agnostic or split on the issue, depending on whether or not they think the evolutionary approach has anything to offer their field. Neuroscientists apparently often buy into the connectionism more closely resembles the actual brain line, and so the majority of them still work with PDP-like models, but only when they don't have regular access to real brains and fMRI or the like. Philosophers, of course, are open to some possibilities that people in each of the other constituent disciplines of cognitive science see as being silly, although some sort of modularity seems to be winning out among philosophers (except for at UCSD).

      But my overall impression is that in no case except maybe for AI do most people consider the debate completely passe. Taking into consideration your "moist eyes" comment and your perception that the debate is passe, I'm tempted to believe that you were, at the very least, trained in AI. Is that right?

  14. Re:So how about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I heard they tried one using Michael Jackson morphing into Diana Ross, but no-one could tell the difference.

  15. Re:Maybe I'm simplifying too much here, but.. by Enigma_Man · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, but now they can and have identified the specific areas of the brain that are responsible for all of those functions. Maybe one area of the brain was responsible for all 3 functions, recognition, and associated data about a face, but now they know otherwise, and that is important.

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  16. That's a hell of a shock. by Sialagogue · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...film star Marilyn Monroe gradually morphed into that of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher."

    Or as it's known in medicine, 'the anti-Viagra.'

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  17. Re:Maybe I'm simplifying too much here, but.. by ViolentGreen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not from what I understand. I had a statistics professor as an undergraduate who did a study on people with some kind of disorder where they couldn't recognize faces. They were perfectly normal and functional aside from that. I don't remember what the disorder was called though.

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  18. What is the point? by m-laboratories · · Score: 4, Insightful

    True it is no surprise that the three intuitive components of face recognition (see, recognize, identify) show activation in different regions of the brain. But these type of "it's obvious & intuitive" comments follow many scientific discoveries, especially those in psychology, and entirely miss the point of the experimental method - to prove (or disprove) those intuitions.

  19. Not to be picky but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The title implies these areas are needed, but really, only that activity is found in these three areas. To show need, they would have to ablate these areas and block recognition (and even that could have some problems). They show sufficiency at best.

    I imagine you could do this in chimps with chimp celebrities, but outside of GW, we may not know who's who of chimp celebrities.

    I didn't RTFA, but this is just a thought.

  20. interesting thought experiment; bad practice by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem with such a racist is not their thoughtcrime, failing to recognize racial differences, but their actions. If they can't (or won't) notice differences among individuals of other races, that's they're problem. When they burn these people's houses down, beat them in nightclubs, refuse to hire them, or do other bad things, it doesn't really matter that their facial recognition is wired wrong.

    When we make thoughts illegal, we're faced with legislating people's minds. Not only politically catastrophic in a free society, but probably medically irresponsible to pretend we are in control of all the results. We have a flawed, but much more successful, history of managing behavior. We should stick to what we know until we've improved it to adequacy, before messing with minds and all the worse consequences at stake.

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  21. Who needs a fancy computer? by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the countenance of film star Marilyn Monroe gradually morphed into that of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher

    You don't need computers for that. You just need to wake up next to someone you don't remember meeting.

    For more information on the subject, listen to the song "9 Coronas".

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  22. "Obvious" but wrong by MoggyMania · · Score: 2, Informative

    No. People with prosopagnosia can often have excellent or even photographic visual memory, yet have an extremely hard time at best recognizing faces. Irlen Syndrome can make it hard to perceive objects as a whole, even if we have extremely good physical vision. There really is no such thing as "ordinary memory" -- the brain accesses and stores information in quite a variety of ways. I can't remember (ironically) the name for the specific loss of name-recognition, but it does exist, and is common in people born with other neurological abnormalities like the above.