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TorrentBits.org and SuprNova.org Go Dark
Numerous people wrote in with similar stories: "Without providing a reason, both of these sites have shut down: SuprNova.org and TorrentBits.org." We mentioned a few days ago that the MPAA was going after Bittorrent sites.
A lot more other sites went down today...
Bi-Torrent.com
The coolest voice ever.
Greetings everybody, As you have probably noticed, we have often had downtimes. This was because it was so hard to keep this site up! But now we are sorry to inform you all, that SuprNova is closing down for good in the way that we all know it. We do not know if SuprNova is going to return, but it is certainly not going to be hosting any more torrent links. We are very sorry for this, but there was no other way, we have tried everything. Thank you all that helped us, by donating mirrors or something else, by uploading and seeding files, by helping people out on IRC and on forum, by spreading the word about SuprNova.org. It is a sad day for all of us! Please visit SuprNova.org every once in a while to get the latest news on what is happening and if there is anything new to report on. As we wish to maintain the nice comunity that we created, we are keppig forums and irc servers open. Thank you all and Goodbye! sloncek & the rest of the SuprNova Team
Well they have the notices on their site. It looks like they either got a letter or a visit. http://www.torrentreactor.net/ is still up. A very well crafted letter from a laywer will really put some threats on people. Sounds like this is what happened.
I was going to say TvTorrents but they're down as well. So hurmm... learn to love IRC all over again.
I think they are getting way too many members to cope with at the moment (with TB and suprnova going down). They got about 15,000 in 12 hours (went from 140,000 last night to 155,000 this morning when I checked).
This is going to be a huge issue for all the new/small torrents sites - how do they work with the load that millions of new users demand?
BTW: If you have an IRC client, you can join #bt, #bt-gm and #tvtorrents on efnet. #bt and #tvtorrents serves TV show torrents and #bt-gm serves torrents for games and movies.
Since it's IRC it stands a somewhat better chance of surviving.
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You'll read that they have both given up and shut their doors to torrent hosting. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but when two of the biggest torrent link sites go down very close in time to one another, I'm guessing there was a sweep of cease and decist letters. Guess its true about the "The bigger they are" hypothesis
ok.. so heads you lose tails I win. right?
SVT no longer brodcasts Enterprise. We sweedes are out of luck too when it comes to watching the latest trek (If it wasn't for bittorrent that is).
IRC for SuprNova is dead too, so there's no asking there.
I just checked it a few minutes ago. It took about a minute to load on my cable modem, so I assume it's just being swamped.
Taken from here
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AT LAST!
I've got a chance to reply to some of these rumours and wild speculation!
(YES - this is going to be one of the Puppy's long boring posts,
but if you don't read it all, don't bother replying - NO CRIB NOTES AVAILABLE)
Firstly, I have to say,
I am extremely dissapointed with the response from some of the members of the TB community.
Scare-mongering and spreading rumours is not the most helpful thing to do in a situation like this!
I know everyone is unhappy about it, but don't burn your bridges with insults or by playing the blame game!
Secondly,
I am extremely delighted with the reponse form some of the members of the TB community.
Members like DeeJee, and Warlok, who are trying to keep us all together,
to get the correct information out. There are probably more that I don't know about yet....
and all those working behind the scenes.... Thanks guys
OK lets get down to it.
A few facts:-
- I am extremely sad to report, that I have just found out that, TB, as we know it, is DEAD.
- The full reason why Rb choose to close down is still not yet known
- Rb was "on holiday" when the site went down, and is in no position to put it back up again,
or explain anything, until he gets back
- There was a Ddos attack - After the site went down!
One more fact:-
Nobody, REPEAT, nobody, except Redbeard knows what Redbeard is planning to do.
Keep watching torrentbits.org for a statement.
It's the ONLY place to get the full facts
Use www.lokitorrent.com from now on. It's just as good as suprnova.org was.
Also, check out it's sister site: www.mufftorrent.com
the irc channel (#suprnova.org) on irc.suprnova.org is announcing that suprnova won't be coming back online
Try www.thepiratebay.com. It's a Swedish website, so you can even support other Scandanavians... ;)
It's listing several season 4 episodes at the moment.
Where is exeem located? I cannot seem to find it...
Auto-check your UK lottery lines
I think they did this to drum up interest in Exeem, their next generation torrent p2p client, which makes everyone a tracker. It's in private beta testing right now, so only 5000 users allowed on it.
www.btefnet.com - only tv shows
I really can't imagine neither of these sites would say something naughty about the MPAA if they would be the reason the sites has to shut down, so what *could* the reason be ?
A "we know we probably can't nail you properly, but our lawyers can make life tough on you for years to come - so just leave town, and do it tonight" - deal?
http://www.cio-today.com/story.xhtml?story_title=H ollywood-Sues-BitTorrent-Server-Operators&story_id =160.4652640 They're beings sued by the MPAA!
There is a new site for torrents for tv. It is a split off of tvtorrents. it's tv-swarm.com :)
Yes Torrentbits has detailed records of user accounts - what they've uploaded, and what they've downloaded.
But...
Your IP is only attached to that user account on a temporary basis. As soon as you stop seeding or leeching a Torrentbit torrent they no longer have a record of your IP.
If the **AA wants to collect your IP address they simply have to join the swarm. Getting their hands on Torrentbits records will in no way aid them in their attemps to collect IP addresses.
Most large tracker sites have long abandoned the pratice of tracking their users via IP address. Many sites now attach a "key" to every
So there is info in their database, but nothing that can be used to attach any particular user with their real-life self.
tvtorrents.net
btefnet.net
The MPAA and RIAA have little reason to go after them.
Most large tracker sites have long abandoned the pratice of tracking their users via IP address. Many sites now attach a "key" to every .torrent downloaded from their tracker. They use this key to relate a peer with an authorized user in their database. So there is info in their database, but nothing that can be used to attach any particular user with their real-life self.
I'm the original anonymous coward you responded to. Thanks for explaining this. It makes me feel better.
This is why when all else fails, I turn to the alt.binaries groups to find my VCDs, SVCDs, etc. Use an excellent free news reader like XNews, browse to alt.binaries and then filter the groups based on your keyword ("enterprise" or "simpsons" or whatever). Many of the most popular shows have their own groups. And even the less popular show up in alt.binaries.vcd, alt.binaries.svcd, etc.
I only post comments when someone on the internet is wrong.
I'd be glad to let you know that the commmunity created by torrentbits has really been strong. Now a temporary forum has been setup bustling with 2000 users so far. As well plans are taking shape for Torrentbits2. Well, its sad to see all the admins leave for real life. All you slashdotters know that life is underrated. As quoted from the forums ------- Yes... its soon gona be official... RB is preparing the TB main page now... TB is closed for good... It will not come back... Read up on TB mainpage in a short while and you will see for yourself... I know many is gona get sad about this fact but life goes on... Several other sites will prolly pick up the slack... I just wanna thank everyone involved for their time and dedication to TB and hope life treats you all well... Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all... /Helshad
Ps... Alright... I know many wanna know the reason for this but all I can say its private reasons... It has nothing to do with the rest of the world... in anyway whatsoever...
We simply dont have the time and dedication we once had... Life has changed for us and thus we felt it was time to end it... And if it makes you all feel better blame it all on me... I started the downfall... hehehe
suprnova however was not running a bittorrent tracker and had not for a very long time... chances are that most of the trackers that were linked to from the torrents on suprnova are still operational... all that's needed is a new way of sharing the meta info (.torrents)
still sad to see suprnova gone after all this time...
Get your torrents...
they are also down, without any message though
Dreamcast discs? 5 1/2" floppies? Insert technology that user may not be able to access without spending a boatload in money and knowledge to archive.
:)
It's many times faster and easier to download yourself a backup for perfectly legit purposes. One could claim that if the user isn't able to achieve backup, he has no use for the backup itself -- yet that's not always the case. Dreamcast is the perfect example of this. You may not end up with a perfect backup (ie, GD-ROM), but a CD-ROM with the exact same data works just as well.
In 50 years from now, what will become of our old physical formats? Will digitized images of them be easier to access than the old counterparts? Of course.
Just because something can be used for criminal purposes does not mean it will be. We should always take that into consideration, and plan accordingly for the future.
"An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU emacs would never make a good program."
Soapcity.com offers this kind of service... obviously only for Soap Operas. And they once offered episodes of Dawson's Creek. It was $10/mo per Soap Opera, and you could only start your download after the episode had finished airing on the west coast. So it's clearly easily feasible...
A friend of mine just received one of these gems:
: vcd-tg1.r00
Infringement Detail:
Infringing Work: Grudge, The
Filepath: The.Grudge.SCREENER-VideoCD.torrent|CD1
Filename
First Found: 18 Dec 2004 04:21:14 EST (GMT -0500)
Last Found: 18 Dec 2004 04:21:14 EST (GMT -0500)
Filesize: 14,648k
IP Address:
IP Port: 58546
Network: BTPeers
Protocol: BitTorrent
Apparently the RIAA has been sampling the swarms or getting their data from somewhere like that. This torrent was gotten from Suprnova... was that "paper" we saw the other day here on slashdot linked to any data they collected that the RIAA might have dipped into?
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
It really shouldn't, because they have your email address and your IP can be gotten through that unless you used an anonymizer for your email.
Now I feel bad again. This is turning into a real emotional roller coaster.
You are assuming that the email address given is a legit one. Even if the email address in their records is legit then they have to subpoena Hotmail or whoever (unless you were foolish enough to not only use a real email address but to use your ISP's email).
Even if they have your real email address, that proves nothing. It proves who created the account, it does not prove who used the account. Weak evidence, and with 100,000 Torrentbits users they can (will) pick and choose who they go after.
What if your legit copy was just stepped on and you didn't make a backup? What if you don't own the equipment to reproduce a copy of it? What if... What if... What if...
wdd
Many ISP's choke bandwidth on usenet.
SBC and Road Runner choke it down so badly that it's just not feasible to get large files or large volumes of files through usenet.
Sorry, no. Slashdot tried to fight the scientologists, and found out Real Fast (TM) just how far that disclaimer's protection actually extended. The answer is "not very, even for documents arguably in the public domain".
The voices that the CIA beam into my teeth tell me that promoting a film costs about as much as making the film. Halving the costs seems a fine start to the economic fight. Setting up a cdr manufacturing plant probably costs quite a few $million too, but their product gets to the shop for pennies.
The market has set the price for DVDs; it is the price that the pirates sell at.
To recap:
Reduce the costs (no advertising means less staff to deal with the advertising which means less office space which.....etc)
Make a few cents on each VCD sold (and more on the download).
Make even more cents on each label-less DVD (more on download).
Make a few dollars on each fancy boxed set.
Make a few dollars at the theatre.
And this will remove the demand for pirated movies too, as customers can 'preview' a film on a grotty format before paying big bucks for higher quality versions all of which you will make money on . You can even put trailers for your other films on the discs.
vcd and low quality dvd copies of your film will be availible on streetcorners whatever you do, do you want to make money on those sales or not?
They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
Slashdot caved; that doesn't mean that the Scientologists were on the right side of the law. It would have been too expensive for Slashdot to fight, that's all.
According to efnet:#tvtorrents, they are just having DNS problems. Hopefully tvtorrents will recover!
No, but they can force them to filter search results by content..
Much as they are doing for some other countries now..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
No.
Google for 17 USC 512.
If you're concerned about what they're posting links to, you need to read 17 USC 512(d), (c)(2), (c)(3), and (i)-(k).
If you're concerned about what users are uploading to their site, you need to read 17 USC 512(c), (g), and (i)-(k).
THOSE set forth the applicable criteria. There's a lot of them, and they're not terribly complex but long enough that I didn't feel like posting them here.
What you've posted would not qualify at all. The protection doesn't run to an entity that walks like a search engine and quacks like a search engine. It runs to entities that fall within the statute and take the affirmative steps necessary to comply with it.
This having been all done, I'd be impressed if you could run a torrent site like suprnova that was popular and useful while still staying within the boundaries of the law.
-- This and all my posts are in the public domain. I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer, and this is not legal advice.
Which is the weakest link in the entire concept of a law-based society. And it is one of the major contributing factors to the inequality among citizens based on level of income and wealth. A rich football player can get away with murder and mayhem, but a public forum can't discuss an obviously phildickian "religious" organization without being threatened with eternal litigation, which is a lot worse on a practical level than eternal damnation...
Hic iacet Arthurus, rex quondam rexque futurus.
Now, while the broadcasters must fill 60% of the airtime with Canadian produced shows, that still leaves the remaining 40%. This is typically filled with US shows because they tend to be cheap, and get good ratings. This creates some interesting situations. For example, CTV (who produce Degrassi) license The Sopranos from HBO. When an application to the CRTC (Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission) to allow cable and satellite providers to provide HBO to Canadians, it was rejected because it would put it in direct competition with CTV because of The Sopranos licensing. The refusal to carry CTV by US cable and satellite providers is likely the same, except for the reversed situation. Or maybe they're afraid of pissing off people who believe Ann Coulter's claims that Canadians hate Americans because we don't agree with every US policy (just to clarify, most of us don't like Bush, and we've NEVER agreed with ALL US policies).
To most Americans, the cancon laws seem quaint, and pretty silly. But, in a country that still measures the relative success of a musical band by if they managed to hit it off in the United States, these laws have probably helped more than they've hurt. Besides, we still consume lots of US movies, music and television programming (among other things).
I used up all my sick days, so I'm calling in dead.
http://www.silentdragz.net/suprfaq/
FAQ it's under the MIT license rather than in the public domain. Not that it makes much of a difference, of course.
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Entranced by anime since late summer 2001 and loving it ^_^
is now a godaddy space holder...
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms,
Let's say I see a /. post that is going to be censored but contains material that I think is important to get out there (like copyrighted Scientology texts, or maybe Windows source code).
Assuming I have a halfway stable connection, in roughly 5 minutes I can create a torrent and host it myself using Azureus' built-in tracker. I can either post a link to the ad hoc tracker ("http://123.456.989:6969/" or "http://mymachine.dyndns.org:6969") or post the .torrent file itself here on on IRC or whatever. When I'm done I shut down Azureus and the tracker goes away.
Peers as trackers is as distributed as you can get.
With a standard centralized distribution model, there's a higher probability that a user will log back in who is sharing the file in question. When a BitTorrent dies, it's pretty much permanently gone unless it's a special case.
First off, ed2k links and torrent files are both essentially hashes - you're no more in the clear hosting one than the other. The actual tracker mechanism does possibly leave you open to greater legal attack, but often times the torrents and tracker are hosted in seperate locations.
Secondly, ed2k isn't slow because of the protocol itself so much as the queueing system. With ed2k you *will* spend most of your time simply waiting to download a file. When I used it regularly, I found that you generally had to have at least 20-30 things queued up to have *something* downloading at all time. ed2k is great for finding older or obscure files, but I wouldn't call it a replacement for the pure power that a torrent leverages.
The slashdot editors took down the post and instead posted a long rant about Scientology's threat to free speech and liberty, complete with links to exposes of the church as well as links that would get you to the information that was originally taken down. It was a rather ingenious strategy, actually; they complied with the letter of Scientology's legal request while at the same time drawing way more attention to the material they took down (as well as creating an open forum for attacks on the church in the discussion). IIRC, the material that had originally been taken down was posted again to the followup discussion.
Suprnova was in Hungary. They were sure they don't need to worry about American laws too. It seems they were wrong. Though I do agree that St. Petersburg, Russia is still a rather safe place to perform on the Internet activities that are considered illegal elsewhere. Speaking from experience. :-)
If you are seriously interested, though, I think it would be wise to ask people from sharereactor.ru, nnm.ru and the like, who have experience running "shady" sites and more importantly, getting ad money to finance them. May be they can offer some advice.
Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
"Many ISP's choke bandwidth on usenet. ..."
SBC and Road Runner choke it down so badly
Bzzzzt!
Sorry, usenet is not your ISP's news server.
Subscribe to any good news service (newscene, giganews, easynews, yada yada) and the bandwidth your ISP allocates to you will be maxed out almost as fast as your hard drive will fill up.
So you look at every line of code for each client application you run to verfiy that you are safe and dont need to be paranoid?
And with each update you go through each line and verfiy that its safe?
I totally agree with where your coming from, but your just pulling the bullshit card when saying that you only use open source software because its secure because you can check to make sure nothing is install that shouldnt be.
Because most people never check.
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[trnjw@eveningstar home]$ whois suprnova.orgn terestregistry.net] .
[Querying whois.publicinterestregistry.net]
[whois.publici
. .
Domain ID:D96700160-LROR
Domain Name:SUPRNOVA.ORG
Created On:04-Apr-2003 21:28:07 UTC
Last Updated On:06-Dec-2004 15:03:21 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Apr-2009 21:28:07 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-07362285
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Street1:15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
Registrant Street2:PMB353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:SUPRNOVA.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
. . .
Wikileaks, no DNS
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Download:
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It actually works quite well. Be sure to play with the options, the default timeout is set to one second (because when your searching ~50 links one second takes a long time) and may reject valid torrents.
The program is witten in C# and the binaries and source are included. If you get an error when you run it you need the .NET Framework (link above).
Also, for the love of god, be very gentle. My machine is very old and it's connection very poor.
I rewrote it to use the Google Web API (and comply with Google's Terms of Use).
As an upside it now returns more results, but as a downside you need a Google Web API Licence Key to use it (if you already have a GMail account just fill in your login and you'll get one no hassle). See the readme.txt for more info (And how to obtain a key).