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The Media in 2014

Alexandre Van de Sande writes "Robin Sloan made a flash video as a "documentary" of how big enterprises like google and amazon converged medias and changed the way we see news by 2014. It's a vision of what could be (or will be) the world with personalized media, made by peers, and the guy knows what's going on on those big heads. It ends with a sad view on which, althought some people get their news in a way they could never before, most of them just get a bunch of untrue gossip and sensasionalist trivia. And that's exactly what they wanted." This will take a few minutes to watch, but stick it out to the end. I think there's a lot in there that you really should think about.

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  1. Already there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "most of them just get a bunch of untrue gossip and sensasionalist trivia"

    Isn't this already true for the American "real press"?

    1. Re:Already there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      toss in a open-source reference or two and you've got /.

    2. Re:Already there? by rscrawford · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pretty much. The news is so heavily skewed to the left OR the right (depending on your outlet) that you have to go to several different sources to get even a glimmer of the truth. Even NPR, that one-time bastion of somewhat impartial reporting, has started sliding toward sensationalism.

      I, personally, have pretty much given up on the news. I dunno; maybe by averaging between Alternet and Fox News, you might be able to get at what the news really is.

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    3. Re:Already there? by ThisNukes4u · · Score: 2, Informative

      I find that google news is a good way to get a picture of many different news sources all at once, although it doesn't really help the fact that, like you said, many of those sources are skewed in the first place.

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    4. Re:Already there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I find that www.csmonitor.com sticks to the who, what, where, why, and when questions as long as you stay away from the editorial content (which is as it should be). Unfortunately, they don't cover very much.

      I think the worst thing that can happen is getting all your news from one source. We need to at least expose ourselves to the viewpoints from across the spectrum, and especially to viewpoints from outside of our own borders if we're to see what's really going on. It takes alot of effort to be more informed.

    5. Re:Already there? by transami · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Pretty much. The news is so heavily skewed to the left OR the right"

      Perhaps the problem is that reality itself is becoming heavily skewed to the left OR the right.

      T.

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    6. Re:Already there? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even NPR, that one-time bastion of somewhat impartial reporting, has started sliding toward sensationalism.

      Actually, NPR was a bastion of left-think, until very recently when the right-thinkers kicked up a ruckus that public funds were fueling a partisan news outlet. That, and the fact that the Big Money from corporate sponsorships tends to frown on Left/Green perspectives.

      Now, NPR seems to go out of its way to present bi-partisan views, except it often does so across multiple days' telecasts, a situation guaranteed to enrage the partisan occasional listener on either side. Of course, long-time lefty NPR listeners moan their network's`shift to the center, and it's tough to blame them.

      With multiple strong, clearly partisan media outlets available now for both sides, it's unclear whether or not a venue which painstakingly ventures to be non-partisan can survive.

      Journalism is dying. Clinton's elimination of the Fairness Doctrine opened the gates up to the New Media barbarian hordes, Blair/NYT and Rather/CBS poisoned the Emperors' wine, and now the Mob has seen through the bread and circuses, picked up javelins, and become bloggers.

      Once, journalists presented the news, as delivered to them from strange and ancient teletype-oracles only they had access to. Now, everybody has their own AP/UPI feed, and more sources than Cronkite ever dreamed of. Once, everybody who became a professional journalist did so not because he wanted to present world events in a fair and balanced manner, but because he wanted to influence world events, crusade for a cause, and be a celebrity. Then, journalists had to pretend they had interestes other than their own in mind. Soon, they can cease pretending completely.

      Within Ten Years (Mark My Words): Every major news outlet ceases delivering "the news" in primetime as they currently do, and instead they are all attempting to imitate the success of Bill O'Reilly on Fox, creating celebrity pundits who themselves are their own cottage industries. Right-wing pundits, left-wing pundits, gay-pundits, green-pundits, libertarian-pundits, techno-pundits, luddite-pundits, kid-pundits, septuagenarian-pundits, Baptist-pundits and Wiccan-Pundits -- celebrity wannabes nurturing book deals, all.

    7. Re:Already there? by Greslin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hasn't it always?

      Seriously, anyone who thinks that this is anything new - or something whipped up by this newfangled Internet thing - needs to go grab a book called "The Image: A Guide To Psuedo-Events In America", by historian Daniel Boorstin. Written in 1961, it examines the history of public relations in America during the twentieth century. The book is mainly about how folks discovered that you don't actually need a real event in order to have news. Just create a *reaction*, regardless of whether it was justified by reality, and then report on the reaction.

      Boorstin predicted that if things didn't change, the American entertainment and news gathering industries would eventually merge. Rather than accurately reporting the facts, the overriding goal would be to capture and maintain an audience.

      Funny part is, when the book came out in 1962, Boorstin was traveling in Europe. Time magazine (IIRC) called him a traitor for suggesting that Americans would be so stupid to allow such a thing to happen.

    8. Re:Already there? by gilgongo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > The news is so heavily skewed to the left OR the
      > right (depending on your outlet) that you have to
      > go to several different sources to get even a
      > glimmer of the truth.

      You think the mass media is *polarised* too much!!? What kind of perception of political discourse do you have?

      The problem as I see it is that the mass media simply repeat accepted "facts" about events with only tiny, tiny variations.

      To illustrate what I mean, take the now ubiquitous 9/11. Apart from referring to some vague idea of "hatred for our way of life," has anyone in the main stream media actually attempted to *explain* why Bin Laden et. al. hate the USA so much? Why are so many countries hostile to the West?

      I'll wager not one serious attempt at giving a comprehensive explanation has been attempted. Why? Because it's just too difficult to set up the facts, give the right background to the arguments and generally get over the huge wall of what people have accepted to be "true" about the situation.

      It takes 5 seconds to parrot something about an "evil empire intent on destroying the American way of life" but about an hour to explain why the biggest terrorist operations of all are run out of Washington.

      That's not a conspiracy theory - it's just the way the media works. The bigger challenge is to work out how the accepted truths are constructed.

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  2. Small problem by duffbeer703 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Amazon and Google are already beginning to become cluttered with useless features (particularly Amazon).

    You may be able to get personalized news... but like 6 people will be able to figure out how to find the right page or widget to click on if Amazon does it.

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    1. Re:Small problem by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just because you've never used a feature that doesn't make it useless.

      Operating systems, applications and services have all have core features that almost everyone uses but they also have other features that almost nobody uses, but that's not a bad thing. Whether its help for disabled users, a mail merge facility or whatever else, there are plenty of little-used features that make a huge difference to some people's use of software, and these Amazon and Google tools are no different.

      You might never feel the need to search within a book, or create a Google group but it's pretty egocentric to think that just because you don't use them these facilities are useless to everyone else.

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    2. Re:Small problem by duffbeer703 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not knocking the features... I'm knocking the interfaces.

      Amazon in the last year or two has become extremely cluttered and more difficult to use. Its hard to find features that you want, and other common features are missing. (try cancelling an order)

      Google Groups are another case of something made too complicated. The interface is intrusive, distracting and makes it more difficult to get at the information that you want.

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  3. posted recently by ats-tech · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wasn't this posted not to long ago?

  4. RTFA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    98% of /. readers don't read the article. What makes you think they'll watch it?

  5. Lots about Google, Amazon, Blogger... by Richie1984 · · Score: 2

    But where's the section about Slashdot?!? Shurely Shome Mishtake?

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  6. Obligatory grammar pedantry... by altgrr · · Score: 4, Informative

    how big enterprises like google and amazon converged medias

    'Media' is the plural of 'medium'. Hence, 'medias' is nonsense.

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  7. Re:I'm sorry but... by nkh · · Score: 3, Informative

    But the guy has a good sense of humour: the guy on the Googlezon ID card is called Winston Smith!

  8. and that's different from now? by hodet · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "It ends with a sad view on which....most of them just get a bunch of untrue gossip and sensasionalist trivia."

    Not sure how this is different from CNN et al now.

  9. Irony is ... by Richard+Allen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That "journalistic ethics" will somehow be lost if The New York Times were to go away.

    What a claim! LOL!

    1. Re:Irony is ... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll take The New York Times over Fox "News" any time. The former was badly let down by one reporter whereas the latter has made an art form of combining half-truths and lies to present what it calls "the facts".

      How many times did Fox claim that WMDs had been found in Iraq? It became a running joke in our house to guess how long it would be until they made their next false discovery.

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  10. Note to the editors by paranode · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Here's a piece I thought was pretty true:

    "...some people get their news in a way they could never before, most of them just get a bunch of untrue gossip and sensasionalist trivia. And that's exactly what they wanted."

    And then: I think there's a lot in there that you really should think about.

    Next time Slashdot thinks about posting some "news" from a sensationalist random guy's blog, please remember how hard you thought about this and we'll all appreciate it!

  11. The media in 2014 by BigHungryJoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Will they completely failed the American people like the media in 2004? In other words, will they allow an arrogant, rogue administration like the failed Bush administration to lie, inveigle, and obfuscate their way into a war with Iraq?

    1. Re:The media in 2014 by DrWho520 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Will they completely failed the American people...

      You mean similarly to how your grammar teacher failed you?

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  12. Google Grid! by jokerr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sounds interesting, where/when do I sign up? I just hope it comes before the MSMonopolyBoard!

  13. Re:I'm sorry but... by TarrVetus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But the guy has a good sense of humour: the guy on the Googlezon ID card is called Winston Smith!

    I don't think that's a sense of humor--he's making a point. Epic 2014 is the modern media version of 1984. I can honestly say I was horrified by this film and just how real its prophesies could be. After all, even if Google doesn't do it, you know someone else will; this is such a profitable venture a company would have to be crazy to pass it up.

  14. Could be good... could be bad by eno2001 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of my favorite quotes from the Blade Runner is "Replicants are like any other technology. They're either a benefit or a hazard". Replace "replicants" with "media convergence" and we have a good cautionary phrase to keep in mind.

    Way back before there were books (pre-Gutenberg), reading was only for the rich. More importantly, information, communication and news were for the rich. If we don't watch it, the balance could tip that way again. Taking into account that computers have the potential to be used as a benefit or a hazard to mankind, we really should look at these sorts of things with a very cautious eye.

    There are plenty of people here on Slashdot and in the real world who feel that access to information (be it movies, music, news, source code, what have you) should be limited to those who can afford it. Anyone who can't is obviously a failure at life and doesn't deserve access. These are people who want to see public libraries disappear. They are people who want to see open source/free softwaer die off or be made illegal. They don't believe it is their responsibility to help others. But the question arises... why do these people feel this way?

    I think there are two distinct groups. The first group (much smaller in size, with a lot of money and therefore with much more to lose) are the people who own and profit from systems that are counter to the spirit of free and equal access for all. These are people who feel that they have the right to make as much profit from their inventions/productions/IP with no concern for fairness (ie, there is a point where you've made enough money and you can stop). These people have let the worst traits of humanity overtake them: greed and selfishness. They believe they are entitled to much more than their efforts are worth simply because they are somehow "better" than everyone else and "know more" than everyone else.

    The second group are people who believe that if they support this kind of system, that they have a chance at eventually becoming just like the people mentioned in the first group. What a thing to aspire to! Can you imagine actually WANTING to be the kind of person who restricts and controls others based on money? Personally, I think it's some kind of sickness. The problem with this second group is that they have no understanding of how the deck is stacked heavily against them. They might be given a token "success" in a local sort of way, but that has far less value than either doing something that helps others in the world (free/open source software, FREE public libraries, volunteer work, etc...) or doing something personal for your family (building your own furniture, growing your own food, etc...).

    The sad thing about the second group is that they are largely failures. Failed business ventures, money lost on investments that they don't understand that were managed by people who DON'T want to help them. These things are unavoidable if you approach life with the goal of getting rich. It is far better to approach your life with the view that you want to enrich your mind and the minds of those around you.

    Money should take a back seat since intellect leads to adaptability and adaptability means you can live comfortably no matter what the circumstances. The key is in knowledge and intelligence, not money. I believe this is the message that we should be drumming into people's heads. But it's been drowned out by the ever bleating cry of the modern "capitalist" who puts the value of money above all else. How else can you explain the worship of the stupid? Pro wrestlers are heroes? George W. Bush is an intelligent man? Criminals who have a second occupation as musicians are idols? Reality television that bears no resemblance to reality?

    Intelligence and access to knowledge are only problems to the people in group one mentioned above. They fear the concept of an informed and intelligent consumer/public. They are scared shitless of the idea that some people may awaken from their stupor an

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    1. Re:Could be good... could be bad by Wateshay · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And here I thought I use money to purchase goods and services from others so that I didn't have to waste time making them myself, and could instead spend my time pursuing things that actually interested me. I guess I was actually doing it to enrich my corporate masters. I'm now more informed. Thank you eno2001.

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    2. Re:Could be good... could be bad by mutterc · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ...make as much profit from their inventions/productions/IP with no concern for fairness (ie, there is a point where you've made enough money and you can stop).
      This is the difference between small and big business. Here I measure that difference in the number of investors (1 for sole proprietorships, infinitely many for publically-traded companies).

      Small business can act ethically, consider fairness, make "enough" money and no more, etc. (Note that this doesn't mean they will have good ethics; the company's ethics will simply reflect those of the controlling people). There are plenty of small businesses that care about delivering a quality product, and have no desire to dominate the world.

      Once you get over a certain number of investors, enough of them will be in it just for the money that the business cannot behave ethically (the degenerate case is the pubically-traded corporation, which must grow shareholder value at a continually-increasing rate, forever). This means there will never be "enough" money made by one of these entities, so they will have to turn to "unethical" (i.e. socially-irresponsible) behavior to keep growing (deliver less to the consumer while keeping prices up, treat employees worse, drive down product quality, etc.)

  15. Absolutely not by daveschroeder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're one of those people who thinks that the US mainstream press doesn't report "the truth" and is completely "in the pocket" of corporations and/or government, then you're already part of the problem. I find the following excerpt from a story on the (ridiculously blatantly false) theory that Flight 77 really didn't crash into the Pentagon on 9/11 extremely relevant:

    It is safe to say that the thesis advocated by Thierry Meyssan, that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, is a tour de force of obfuscation and misinterpretation. Meyssan has nevertheless attracted a bevy of adherents who have based their own interpretations and theories on his. Just how prevalent this theory has become can be confirmed quickly with a Web search. Such a search turns up very little useful information but returns a veritable mountain of misinformation.

    This, in fact, underscores the problem. Modern society is awash in a rapidly expanding sea of information, and it has become increasingly more difficult to identify information that is reliable, factual and useful. Nevertheless, it is essential to identify reliable information sources and carefully evaluate their material. What is the background of the source? Does the source have a track record of reliability? Is the story verifiable? Are witnesses named, or are they anonymous? Does the story match known or observed phenomena, or does it run counter to these? Are there elements of the story that you know to be true -- or know not to be true? Has the source consistently employed fallacious reasoning?

    Failure to carefully weigh the reliability of information sources by asking these and other questions exposes patriotic Americans to the possibility of being misled and marginalized, an outcome to be avoided if the tide toward collectivism is to be reversed.


    "Bloggers" have no obligation to report all sides of a story, all the facts of a story, or even any facts at all. And it seems that many people are content to read blogs as gospel, and seek out information that reinforces their preconceived notions about a particular topic.

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    The rest of this message is a footnote for people who *actually believe* that Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon on 9/11, since some retards will inevitably respond with things like "Um, dude, you're seriously deluded if you believe the official propaganda about what happened on 9/11", etc.:

    Here was an email that I wrote up before, in response to the ridiculous flash move that's been circulating:

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    The problem here is the way the flash movie was done. First of all, some of the images in the movie were edited from the original photographs to support the author's view of events. Second, the only quotes from witnesses in the flash movie are selectively picked - from HUNDREDS of statements - to support the "missile" theory. Additionally, the author even contradicts himself, including statements about a missile, AND a "small" or "commuter" plane. (Well, which is it?)

    Let's take a step back for a moment:

    1. There were dozens upon dozens of eyewitness reports who say that a commercial jetliner was what crashed into the Pentagon. These were all just ordinary people, going about their business in the DC area, some affiliated with government and/or miltary, some not. Of the witnesses who say it "sounded" like a missile (note the word "sounded"): how is that even relevant? I ask because of the obvious: how many of these people even know what a missile "sounds" like? How many people have heard a commercial jetliner just hundreds of feet (and at some point, tens of feet) off the ground travelling at ~400-500mph? And to repeat, many, many, many people reported directly seeing an American Airlines commercial jetliner.

    2. All of the "conspiracy" reports talk about how "no wreckage" was found at the scene. That is patently false. There was TONS of Boeing 757 wreckage recovered, in total, from the Pentagon. Ironically, here are even large pieces of 757 wreckage visi

    1. Re:Absolutely not by daveschroeder · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, the cogent and relevant portion of my post was the italicized portion, which I feel speaks to the issues surrounding this slashdot story; i.e., the idea (correct, in my opinion) that going to "blogs" and "journalism" where everyone contributes is a Bad Thing.

      Since the quote in question used Flight 77 as an example, and I knew there would be readers who *actually believe* the conspiracy theories about Flight 77, and would respond to my post, I attached a pre-written footnote, labeled as such, briefly debunking the ridiculous conspiracy theories (though anyone who believes that Flight 77 didn't really crash into the Pentagon on 9/11 likely won't believe any of it anyway).

      But thanks for your concern.

  16. Huh? by daveschroeder · · Score: 3, Informative

    (And of course this gets modded up)

    How many times did Fox claim that WMDs had been found in Iraq? It became a running joke in our house to guess how long it would be until they made their next false discovery.

    Huh?

    FNC is one of the several channels on in my office all day. They only claimed WMD were possibly found when a source within the government, military, or other source in Iraq claimed WMD were possibly found.

    No. Really.

    They never "made up" stories that WMD were found. And, in fact, trace amounts of WMD were found, several times. I'm not saying any of these constitutes finding WMD in the context of our initial claims, but trace amounts of WMD were found nonetheless. I'm sure there's some blog(s) somewhere that alleged to track "falsehoods" from FNC. I have never seen a story that was later found to be inaccurate (with regard to WMD, WMD trailers, labs, etc.) allowed to stand. And no, they don't just silently sweep it away, they often spent the next several hours saying that the initial reports were inaccurate.

    The difference with FNC is that they reported on things much earlier and with less verification, resulting in less reliable news at any point in time, but MORE TIMELY news over an extended period of time. After watching FNC alongside CNN, MSNBC, BBCWORLD, and even Armed Forces Television, I recall extremely numerous times that FNC was reporting on a news item fifteen to thirty minutes, and sometimes up to an hour, before any other news outlet. Most of the time, the story was generally accurate. The other news organizations seemed to be more conservative about reporting. This sometimes came back to bite FNC, but ultimately resulted in much more timely information from FNC *if* you watched it long enough to see potential corrections. Reporting that could be termed inaccurate or incorrect was BY NO MEANS the norm, and was ALWAYS corrected/retracted if it was incorrect.

    1. Re:Huh? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So what you're saying is that Fox News didn't hesitate to cry "fire!" whenever there was the slightest opportunity whereas CNN, MSNBC, BBC News, etc took their time (a whole 15-30 minutes!) to verify the facts before making wild claims.

      And you saying that that's a good thing? That Fox is happy to put put any information, no matter if it's right or wrong, as long as it gets it out first?

      Do I need to remind you that this thread started as a discussion about journalistic integrity?

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    2. Re:Huh? by kitty+tape · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem with that approach is that people are more likely to believe the initial reporting and miss or even willfully ignore corrections. Which is more memborable? Big glaring graphics and shouts of "We found them!" or the much more sober presentation of "Well, maybe we were wrong.".

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    3. Re:Huh? by Bora+Horza+Gobuchol · · Score: 3, Insightful
      > FNC is one of the several channels on in my office all day. They only claimed WMD were possibly found when a source within the government, military, or other source in Iraq claimed WMD were possibly found.

      Quite correct. And this is the problem. A good journalist - or a good news organisation - is cynical, even suspicious, when handed a story. They ask questions like - Can this be verified by a secondary (outside) source? As originally told, how does this story benefit the original source? Are there details missing that could be important to the context of the story?

      The problem is that Fox News doesn't question Republican government sources. They are notorious in softballing the Bush administration - and they happily swallow whatever pabulum the administration happens to be feeding that day.

      The difference with FNC is that they reported on things much earlier and with less verification, resulting in less reliable news at any point in time, but MORE TIMELY news over an extended period of time....And no, they don't just silently sweep it away, they often spent the next several hours saying that the initial reports were inaccurate.

      What would you rather have - verified, accurate, and time-delayed news... or up-to-the-minute, unfiltered, error-filled hysteria and hyperbole?

    4. Re:Huh? by Vicsun · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Here is an example of unparalleled Fairness and Balance as exhibited by FOX news; brace yourself, world, The Netherlands are the home of the new Holocaust.

      An exercise left to the reader is to spot all the inaccuracies and logical fallacies within. And yes, I do realize one story proves nothing; I'm just making a point.

  17. Re:Prophesy Revisited? by nodrogluap · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The medium is the message" also indicates literally that the communication medium through which information is sent affects how we interpret it. The information is filtered differently NOT only because, for example, we think print media is more trustworthy than electronic media. Because we cognitively use different processes to listen to the radio and watch TV, we interpret the SAME message differently. JFK won the first televised presidential election, but Nixon won the same debate among radio listeners (though of course demographic probably had an effect too).

    By their very nature, media change how we communicate (notice how most people write e-mail letters like they are talking rather than like snail mail letters?) and interpret information, so paper video displays and Google's fictious, omni-media GRID will change how we think and interface with others. The death of the New York Times in this story is indicative of the transformation (for better or worse) of ourselves due to the new media. When Guttenburg invented the movable-type printing press, it cause fundamental change in the dissemination of information and hence society. The question is not what would people choose to view on Google GRID/EPIC (the video's author is probably right), but how will it change how we think and interact?

  18. There's a difference? by Quila · · Score: 2, Insightful

    most of them just get a bunch of untrue gossip and sensasionalist trivia

    And how is this different from network news today?

  19. Re:How to cancel an order on Amazon by kitty+tape · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So you're objecting to the fact that they have streamlined the process so you get your products faster? If you buy items that ship within 24 hours, you have to expect that in at most 24 hours (assuming they're not running behind) you'll be unable to cancel your order.

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  20. You are uninformed. by Bora+Horza+Gobuchol · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Actually, NPR was a bastion of left-think

    Define your terms, and provide examples. From a foreign perspective, NPR seems rigorously balanced. More importantly, they go in-depth on subjects that standard news organisations simply won't touch.

    Clinton's elimination of the Fairness Doctrine

    The Fairness Doctrine was eliminated under Reagan, not Clinton.

    ...and now the Mob has seen through the bread and circuses, picked up javelins, and become bloggers.

    And how is your typical blogger any more informed or connected than a journalist?

    Now, everybody has their own AP/UPI feed

    Which is fed by who? Journalists

    Once, everybody who became a professional journalist did so not because he wanted to present world events in a fair and balanced manner, but because he wanted to influence world events, crusade for a cause, and be a celebrity. Then, journalists had to pretend they had interestes other than their own in mind. Soon, they can cease pretending completely.

    Error of generalisation. Also, you are saying that things have actually improved, in the sense that the attempt at masquerade is increasingly dropped.

    Every major news outlet ceases delivering "the news" in primetime as they currently do, and instead they are all attempting to imitate the success of Bill O'Reilly on Fox...

    I don't disagree. But that is a symptom of the Cult of Celebrity, rather than the nature of news.

    1. Re:You are uninformed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "And how is your typical blogger any more informed or connected than a journalist?"

      Let's see... someone as a professional writing about their field or a journalist writing about a field they do not understand...

      Now think about the implications of that. I can't see how classical journalism will survive. A blogger will ALWAYS be more connected than some journalist when writing about their fiel of expertise.

    2. Re:You are uninformed. by greenhide · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hmmm...if I want to know what digital camera I should buy, probably the last person I'd consult would be a digital camera expert. They're most likely going to deluge with overly specific information, technical jargon within the digital camera field. If you simply ask them, "Look, I've got $200. Which camera should I buy?" They won't be able to give you a 1 paragraph answer.

      That's where journalists come in. They have a more marginal understand of the field (it's usually always worse than the experts, but that's expected), but they're good at translating it into information that can be understood by, let's say, a layman.

      This is, ultimately, the advantage of journalists. No one wants to read a 10 page dissertation on the origins or dynamics of this or that conflict. They want 4-5 paragraphs telling them who did what, when, where, how, and why.

      If you want to get deeper into that information, then you consult the expert.

      Also, it's very possible that the expert won't be as good at putting his knowledge in the larger picture. At times like this, a shallow understanding of the subject is often more useful than a deep one.

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  21. Re:Documentary proves its own point by soft_guy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Plus the flash animation works far better as part of a pitch for venture capital.

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  22. Re:Like Dan Rather and... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not that it excuses Bill Clinton's draft-dodging, but I think Dubya not fulfilling his commitment and then using his service as some badge of honour is worse.

    After all, it's not like Dubya's daddy didn't do a good job of making sure junior was out of danger by getting him a placement in the ANG where he was in no danger whatsoever, is it? I find the fact that he was onto a cushy number yet still failed to do what little was asked of him incredible.

    That someone who showed such little regard for duty then is now the Commander-In-Chief responsible for sending young men off to die in an unnecessary and illegal war, all whilst cutting their pay and benefits, is the sickest joke.

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  23. It depends on which press you're talking about by Infonaut · · Score: 3, Informative
    The medium is the message. Most Americans still get their news from television, the single worst medium for meticulous reporting of facts. Images speak far louder than words, and by its very nature television is a medium dominated by visuals that are edited for "visual impact" - so it should be no surprise that television news has become essentially infotainment.

    There's still good journalism in America, but you have to read it, not watch it:

    The New York Times is widely derided for having a "liberal bias," but there is still no paper in the US that covers as much of what is going on in the world today and presents as wide a range of intelligent and interesting commentary. The print edition is jam-packed with info, and while people complain about the fact that you have to register to get free news from NYT online, it's more than worth the money. ;-)

    The Christian Science Monitor, despite the name is a scrupulously independent voice. Their print version is formatted not to bring you every ounce of news, but to pick and choose stories of interest from around the world. CSM doesn't focus on immediacy, which is quite refreshing in the era of instant news stories without any meat.

    The Wall Street Journal takes flak because it represents the voice of The Man, but if you recognize that the Journal's bias is in favor of the capitalist marketplace, it's an excellent source of information. The reporting is solid and the range of coverage is impressive.

    Getting back to the theme of going beyond knee-jerk immediacy, there are several excellent weekly and monthly magazines available in the states. I'm partial to The Economist, which is not published in the States, and so provides much more coverage of the rest off the world. I happen to agree with most of their editorial bias, but I sometimes disagree with it. One of the nice things about the Economist is that they state their views in a way that allows you to separate the facts from their views.

    I'm also partial to The Atlantic, a monthly magazine that explores a wide range of issues. Their coverage of 9/11, the war in Afghanistan, and the war in Iraq has been superb for its depth, range of viewpoints, and clarity.

    There are plenty of other great news sources in the United States. I merely listed some of my favorites. My point is that if you expect the television to provide you with serious news coverage, you'll continue to be disappointed. If you take the time to sift through a few print publications, you may be amazed at what's out there.

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  24. time to jump the shark: 5 minutes by cygnus · · Score: 2, Funny

    is it me, or did this animation start to become laughable right around when the narrator managed to spit out the phrases "Googlezon" and "Newsbotster" without laughing his ass off? i mean really, how much Vallium did this dude have to take to do that with a straight face?

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