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Automakers Working on Car-to-Car Ad-Hoc Networks

LouCifer writes "The Register is reporting that BMW, Audi, Daimler Chrysler, Volkswagen, Renault and Fiat are working with a German government grant to help develop a standard method for car-to-car wireless networking dubbed 'NOW' (Network On Wheels). NOW is based on 802.11 and IPv6 to allow inter-vehicle communication based on ad-hoc networking to share traffic information. With routing capabilities, the hope is the vehicles will be able to warn each other - and the drivers - about bad weather, accidents and road problems. A prototype is expected by mid-2005 with field trials to start late Q1 2006."

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  1. Just wait until the script kiddies get going... by LBArrettAnderson · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Wait... This can't be right... bad weather... everywhere!?"

    1. Re:Just wait until the script kiddies get going... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cool. Now I can IM the idiot in the left lane in front of me and tell him to move his ass!

  2. Great.. now my car... by farsideofthemoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    can get spam and porn too...

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    1. Re:Great.. now my car... by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 5, Funny
      Great.. now my car can get spam and porn too...

      Not to mention the wonderful wackiness that will come when spyware/adware gets involved.

      • Driver: Dammit, where the hell are we going now?!?
      • Interstate Explorer: McDonalds, left turn off Exit 39.
      • Driver: This is the tenth frickin' McD's we've been to this trip!!!
      • Interstate Explorer: The EULA for the AutoNav Wi-Fi Free Edition you installed clearly stated that you wanted to be offered special deals by AutoNav Wi-Fi partner locations along your route.
      • Driver: But I don't *want* another Big Mac! I thought AutoNav just said it'd help optimize my driving routes.
      • Driver: Execute command "Search Burger King".
      • Interstate Explorer: Request redirected to McWi-Fi McSearch McEngine (tm).
      • Interstate Explorer: Search complete, one match found for topic "McDonalds".
      • Driver: I said BURGER KING!
      • Interstate Explorer: McDonalds, 10 ft ahead on left, entering drive-thru lane.
      • McOrderBot : Welcome to McDonalds!
      • Driver: Help, I'm being kidnapped!
      • McOrderBot : Macrosoft Voice Recognition (tm) engaged.
      • McOrderBot : Hello to you too. One McKid's Naptime Meal. Honk once to confirm.
      • Interstate Explorer: *honk*
      • Interstate Explorer: *honk* *honk* *honk*
      • McOrderBot : Four McKid's Naptime Meals. Credit card info received from AutoNav ChargeBot (tm). Thank you for using the McDonalds/AutoNav "One Honk Shopping (tm)" service. Please pull forward.
      • Driver: (jiggling door handle to no avail)
      • Driver: Open the driver-side door!
      • Interstate Explorer and McOrderBot (in unison): We're sorry, Dave, but we can't let you do that.
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  3. This could be awesome... by bennomatic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Imagine if this technology were built into large parking lots, so you would know upon entering where the nearest parking place was that did not have a likely parker approaching ahead of you...

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    1. Re:This could be awesome... by leerpm · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Other good uses:
      • Automatic warnings to all cars of accidents *the moment* it happens.. Think about how many lives could be saved if you could even warn oncoming cars a few seconds earlier.
      • Ability for travellers to self-police. If some guy is driving 60mph+ over the speed limit, likely you could have people report this driver.. Enough complaints and an officer will know where to respond.
      • Automatic 'fastest route' calculation based on traffic densities. No more guessing, you can just rely on computer algorithms using real-time information.
    2. Re:This could be awesome... by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      "So if you speed past me in excess, or have trouble maintaining your lane, I'm calling you in. If you're being dangerous then I'll follow you and keep the dispatcher updated as to where you're going until a patrol car catches up and deals with you."

      Well, if you can't stay in your lane...then yes, that is dangerous, and indicates you are either driving beyond your means...or intoxicated.

      However, going fast is not necessarily unsafe. If you are on the highway, there are often stretches where speeds of 100+ are perfectly safe. Also, depends on the car you have. I have a car that is not only perfectly able to handle high speeds, it is also superior to most others in stopping and handling turns. What is safe for me in my car is not so much for others with cheap basic cars. If this network made things more subjective...in this sense...I'd say I'd consider it.

      Also, just because someone 'reports' me as speeding...unless the law sees me do it...they can't ticket me. And I've got plenty of good radar/laser detection to see them before they see me. I know nothing is infallible (sp?), but, I find with my driving techniques, detectors, and keeping a good eye out for all kinds of traffic. I've not had any problem with any type of traffic tickets. [knock wood]. And the only time I even look at my speedometer, is if the detector goes off or I visually see a cop....

      "It's really not that hard to not be an asshat behind the week. Try it; you might even like it."

      I'd say I consider myself to be a pretty darned courteous driver actually...I drive what is safe for the situation I am in (plenty of stopping distance, can avoid others about to wreck). I allow people to pass me, if they are needing to go faster than me (ie I move out of the left lane)...and I have no problem letting people merge in traffic in heavy flow..etc. So...yes, I do like to be a thoughful driver, but, that isn't necessarily driving the 'posted limit' if in fact the driving situation is safe for driving faster. The limits are the lowest common denominator for weak cars....and mostly, a source of REVENUE for the cops.

      If they took away the funds from speeding tickets from the police....and indeed payed them per homicide solved or other violent crimes...I can assure you they'd severely curtail traffic speed traps, and start to pursue REAL crimes that hurt us all...

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  4. Obligatory Kit statement by Jeffery · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Michael, there's a hooker two corners up on the right."

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  5. My traffic problems solved... by xstonedogx · · Score: 5, Funny

    A little spoofing and I should be able to convince all the people ahead of me and next to me that there's an accident up ahead and they should take an alternate route.

  6. This has been around for years by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's called CB radio

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    1. Re:This has been around for years by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It's called CB radio

      Ironically, it's about as useful as a CB radio.

  7. Cars and the IRC Model :: Later On... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now Entering... #401-West-Toronto on crc.ontario.ca
    Welcome yup28! Please read the !rules
    [p1geon] hey yup!
    [yup28] !rules
    [yup28] oh hey p1ge... just checking rules... brb2min
    *** OPP1 sending you rules.txt: Read them carefully please, and you can help stay safe while driving.
    [alsz847] Yes! I just got the lastest version of XP over C2C. Remember when we used to have to pay for it before MSC went under???
    [geek-boy] Yeah? Where you headed now anyway?
    [geek-boy] omg that was years ago als... you must be old
    [speedy] WTF Cut me off asshole!!!!
    * speedy slaps geek-boy with a large trout
    [geek-boy] Sorry... I was lighting a smoke.
    [angel-eyez2] heya boys...
    [alsz847] it says this has some new features like a fenderwall and splat... wtf is a splat
    [geek-boy] hey angel... you are looking spiffy today!! *whistle*
    [angel-eyez2] pfft ya right that hair is so y2k... nice try tho studly studderson
    [speedy] als: it's a bug remover... for your windows... except it cleans windshields too
    [alsz847] Argh. I crashed.
    [alsz847] Hold on guys.
    [speedy] serves you right driving like you're on crack ffs j/k
    [alsz847] Is there an admin in here???!?!?!?!
    [alsz847] FUCK ME!!! AAAARGGGGH I"M ON FIRE!!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH IT HURTS!!!!
    [geek-boy] you ok d00d??? omg!!!
    [angel-eyez2] i'm near him... his car's on FIRE! 0mg he's cute!!!
    [angel-eyez2] msging admin for him
    *** OPP-J55 has entered #401-West-Toronto
    [speedy] thank god, a cop when ya need one
    [OPP-J55] What seems to be the problem?
    [angel-eyez2] check my pos, OPP... I'm at the accident with alz
    [yup28] hi is anyone here?

    [[[* C2C: {car2car}]]]

  8. Ok quick list of bads... by JossiRossi · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. Viruses.
    2. Malware forcing ads onto speedometer.
    3. Hackers reversing the pedal controls.
    and of course...
    4. Car networks becoming sentient and attempting to destory humanity.

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  9. Get out of the left lane slowpoke by bmongar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think it would be great to be able to send messages to other drivers. I'd like some precanned ones like 'Get out of the left lane slowpoke', 'Try a turn signal', 'Off My Ass' just to name a few. I realize that this probably isn't what the article is about (of course I didn't read it) but that's what comes to mind when I think of a car to car network.

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    1. Re:Get out of the left lane slowpoke by xstonedogx · · Score: 3, Informative

      I prefer a nice old-fashioned glowing middle finger coming up out of the trunk.

  10. Great... by Zorilla · · Score: 5, Funny

    First, they're going to install communication systems on all cars, then I'm going to lose all my points on my cab-driving license after the car phones home during an accident, then they're going to ask me to save the universe.

    ...Multipass!

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  11. More distraction is all we need by Salo2112 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Great. As if cell phones are not a big enough distraction, now we'll have to contend with drivers downloading mp3s, rolling game rooms and drive-by hackings.

  12. Protocol by clone22 · · Score: 5, Funny

    126

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  13. look to the future by cakefool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Looking past the uses in TFA, one good though far off possibility is to have cars all travelling to the same route "train up" real close to each other - one lead car makes the decisions, cars can peel in and out as their route dictates etc. For long journeys, rotate the front duty, just as you see olympic cycle teams do. The long chain of cars uses less fuel than the same number of independant cars, and behaves only slightly more complex than one car.

    Obviously this is in the self drive car realm of probabilities, but hey, we might as well try.

    Oh yeah, "imagine an ad hoc network of these" jokes coming soon

    1. Re:look to the future by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Oh yeah, "imagine an ad hoc network of these" jokes coming soon

      I believe you mean "Imagine a BMW cluster of these".

  14. crashdot: instant karma by schwaang · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finally we'll be able to mod other drivers properly:
    -1, Crashbait
    -1, Tailgater
    -1, Ugly kid in rear-facing seat on long trip
    +1, Thanks for actually using that turn signal thingy
    +1, Hey hottie, can I get your phone number?

  15. Re:Let's clear a path... by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 3, Funny
    • Carol: I just hate driving down to your 'rents for Xmas, honey. The traffic on 95 is horrible, particularly at the Delaware Bridge...

      Bob: I've got an idea... an hour before we leave, I'll just hack in a traffic report of a huge accident so that cars will re-route. It will be clear sailing for us!

      Carole: Oh, Bob... You're such a hot stud. I'm so glad I married Geek...

    Carol: Carole? Who's Carole? Married? You told me you were single you CREEP!

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  16. Re: Thats it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Better Now we can do file sharing with each other while on the road - now RIA, thats what I call a moving target!!

  17. Uh... hello Officer. by Cheap+Imitation · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Great. Now my own car can rat me out to the Trooper sitting on the overpass. He won't even have to aim the radar gun!

    How long until they combine this with the upcoming black box recorders in cars so my car can politely inform the officer that while I'm not speeding right now, I was going 15 over three miles back?

    Drat! My car is gonna look really ugly covered in tinfoil.

  18. I've always... by charlie763 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've always wondered what would would happen if I were hit with spam at 130kph.

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  19. Obligatory AOL statement by HMA2000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "You've got no traction" ...

    .

    "Goodbye!"

  20. Re:Road Rage by worst_name_ever · · Score: 4, Funny
    fine art road rage

    You mean, throwing paintings, or what?

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