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Google Suggest Dissected, Part II

Bert690 writes "To complement the recent dissection of Google Suggest's innovative front end, I investigated [Coral Link & mirror] the back end of the system in an effort to determine just how it generates suggestions. Along with some preliminary findings, you'll find a pointer to a program for enumerating all possible suggestions from a given starting point. I found the number of possible suggestions to be surprisingly small considering the immense scope of the web."

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  1. when will they get it? by Quasar1999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not the amount of data that a program references to create a result, it's the precision of it's result that matters... if it can do it with relatively little data, then it was designed/implemented by someone who knows what they're doing...

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    1. Re:when will they get it? by nayigeta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      On similar note.

      Instead of showing the possible results and its score as you type, I would rather it return the most probable exact single match.

      Anyway, as I tried to type some of the terms I used to search for, they do not appear on the list.

      So, it will be interesting to see how slow it might get if google is to index every single terms out there.

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    2. Re:when will they get it? by Bioanarchism · · Score: 4, Interesting

      apparently google has better programmers and engineers than most tech companies. it is not only the interesting concepts that they publish, but the courage to invest and experiment thins that are others dare not or rather, they think of as time-consuming.

      how can i, personally, not think of a flash clip which protrayed the merge of google and amazon, to create googlezon, based on google's extensive grid engine. lets hope that wont be an accurate prediction, coz i dun wanna live in a world that has the rest of the world's information at their fingertips.

      and it seems, google is on that path to 'immortality'.

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    3. Re:when will they get it? by WesG · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about a Slashdot Suggest - it would score your article as you type it :-)

      yay

    4. Re:when will they get it? by SunPin · · Score: 2, Informative
      How about a Slashdot Suggest - it would score your article as you type it

      No point in doing extra programming to make the system as random as it already is.

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    5. Re:when will they get it? by amwanted · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A world where 'everyone' has 'instant' access to 'all' the worlds' information may be a world where those who have used our collective ignorance to enslave us will no longer be able to do so. It also would not require 'everyone' to be involved at the same time. Opting out temporarily...or even permanently ( a very small number) would not degrade the system.

  2. Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Press "p" and the first thing "google suggests" is "Paris Hilton", hmm. Although on a cooler note when yopu press "f" the first suggestion is firefox!

    1. Re:Funny by IO+ERROR · · Score: 2

      This is because, like Zeitgeist, Google Suggest is based on things people have actually searched for. OK, so that's a wild guess, but it doesn't make sense any other way.

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    2. Re:Funny by tdvaughan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are you suggesting that no-one searches for 'porn' on Google? It's more likely that the results are passed through a sanitiser beforehand so that you don't have Google suggesting you look at adult content.

  3. SEO by FiReaNGeL · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you're interested in Search Engine Optimization, the tool can be used like the Overture Keyword Selector Tool. Similar results are obtained with both, which is interesting all in itself. A guy built an interface similar to Overture to use with Google Suggest.

    Other than that I can't think of a real use... I usually know what I want to search for on Google. It could help optimize queries I guess (see the "number" of results before hitting submit, but not the quality...)

    Happy Holidays to all Slashdotters, by the way :)

  4. Re:Now that they have Google Suggest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why does that annoy you? For those of us who can't spell, it's quite helpful.

    You could have put some effort into that statement. How about

    Wy doz that annoi yu? For thoze ov us hu kant spel, its kwite helpfle.

  5. we're not all one big group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google needs to remember the last x queries that we submitted and the time we submitted them to better guess what we're looking for. If I hit 'p' I get Paris Hilton even though previous searches were for perl, parrot and pascal.

    When will they work out that there are different classes of users out there that look for different things at different times?

  6. Google Suggest is easy! by MicroBerto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As big as the web is, it's just the same boring drivel over and over... it shouldn't be too hard to make Google Suggest! :)

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  7. Unexpected Ways by RmanB17499 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I like trying to use Google Suggest in unexpected ways: Try typing in 1ZE and see all the UPS tracking numbers that come up. Pick one and track it. Or try typing an area code with a large population (201, 212, 213, 818, etc) and maybe add a digit or two and see what telephone numbers people have been searching for lately.

    1. Re:Unexpected Ways by Quixote · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's a web page where someone wrote a script to see what package numbers are coughed up by Google: enjoy! .

  8. Next Step by mahesh_gharat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After some period Google will not only suggest but will also take decisions for you!

    wait....

    Isn't "I'm Feeling Lucky" option takes a decision for you?

  9. Weird thing about Google Suggest... by tommertron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... it doesn't include dirty words. I know, I may be a little immature, but it's almost always the first thing I try on anything like this. There's not even a way of turning 'safe suggest' on or off or anything. Even such innocuous (and popular!) words like 'nude' aren't suggested. What if you're searching for nude models for your art class, or the great nudes? It's just interesting... Google is becoming very corporate in terms of filtering out content these days.

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    1. Re:Weird thing about Google Suggest... by tommertron · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Its in beta. When they release it, you can complain then. Maybe they haven't integrated into the Safe Suggest yet. Did I mention its in beta, and not done yet?

      Why is there always a comment like this? Yes, it's in Beta, but isn't the point of Beta to discuss the product's flaws, or criticisms about it? And then maybe when it's 'done' we won't have to 'complain' as much. And whoever said it was even a criticism? Just an observation to provoke discussion.

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    2. Re:Weird thing about Google Suggest... by seanadams.com · · Score: 3, Funny

      "grannies and fatties" came up just fine for me....

      What kind of perverted obscure stuff are you looking for?

  10. Who searches for these things?? by stevejsmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    a: amazon
    b: best buy
    c: cnn

    WHO THE FUCK SEARCHES FOR THOSE THINGS?? It amazes me how stupid people are - rather than type in amazon.com, bestbuy.com, or cnn.com, they actually search for them on Google.

    1. Re:Who searches for these things?? by daishin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, you can enter in "amazon" into the firefox (and probably other browsers) address bar, hit enter and it will do a "I'm Feeling Lucky" search on google for it, I do that a lot, I'm very lazy.

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    2. Re:Who searches for these things?? by kentmartin · · Score: 3, Informative

      One thing that may bump up the stats on these sorts of things is Firefox.

      Oftentimes I just punch just enough into the address bar to hit what I want, knowing that Firefox wanders off to google and does an "I'm feeling lucky" if it cannot resolve my input. ie, ipw2200 will always take me to ipw2200.sourceforge.net.

      Just a thought.

  11. They forgot to filter something... by daishin · · Score: 2

    It will show "penthouse", but not "playboy".

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  12. Re:Don't think so... by IO+ERROR · · Score: 5, Funny
    Going by that, entering 'B' would bring up Brittney Spears, while in reality, it brings up Best Buy...

    That's because nobody can spell Britney Spears correctly.

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  13. google suggest is bad for the web by clovercase · · Score: 2, Insightful

    in the early days of the internet, people were posting all sorts of websites on all sorts of topics. as the web became more commercialized, most geeks were (rightfully) worried that major commercial hubs would be created that would attract the majority of attention and dilute the importance of the more peripheral areas of the web. this trend is already underway, and tools such as google suggest will hasten the decline. users will be directed to the areas that most people are already going, thereby increasing the traffic to portals and decreasing traffic to niche or enthusiast sites. in my opinion, google suggest is ANTI-internet.

  14. Nielson Usability by lxt · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I remember correctly, I remember reading in one of Jacob Nielson's usability books about how a surprisingly large majority of users thought (this was back in the day before Google) that the Yahoo search field "was the internet". They typed everything into it, and payed no attention to the adress bar.

  15. better address? by earthstar · · Score: 2, Insightful
    When will Google suggest get a better address than this one?
    http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en

    that long address wont help anyone.

    Even if it is in beta.

  16. found one use by earthstar · · Score: 2, Informative
    Today , finally found a use for google suggest. Lets say some weird news [ or rather a 'hushed' news ] has broken out.Then when you type only some word about it ,then you get to see, under which combination of words , maximum number of results have been obtained.

    The suggested words by themselves may not be all that useful,but when combined with the number of results shown for each keyword ,I think it can be useful.

    Google suggest may not be immediately be of use to everyone like Google.com,but will rather be when a particular situation arises for the user.

    I think its a specific need based solution.

  17. First Suggestions by YowzaTheYuzzum · · Score: 2, Informative

    First suggestion for each letter/number:

    amazon
    best buy
    cnn
    dictionary
    ebay
    firefox
    games
    hotmai l
    ikea
    jokes
    kazaa
    lyrics
    mapquest
    news
    onl ine dictionary
    paris hilton
    quotes
    recipes
    spybot
    tara reid
    ups
    verizon
    weather
    xbox
    yahoo
    zip codes

    1
    2004 election
    3m
    411
    50 cent
    60 minutes
    7th heaven
    89.com
    911
    02

    1. Re:First Suggestions by ColaMan · · Score: 2, Funny

      911? WTF?

      "Operator, give me the number for 911!.... ah hell, I'll just google for it."

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  18. Small Perl script to get suggestions by John+Bokma · · Score: 2, Informative
  19. Dictionary Suggest (Similar to Google Suggest) by gavi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hi guys, I just finished implementing Google suggest for a dictionary database. http://www.objectgraph.com/dictionary The code is clean and you could see it by using "View Source" The dictionary database is on an SQL server (total of 18000+ words) with an index on the word column.