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Relic Russian ICBM To the Rescue for Science

helio writes "Japanese space agency, JAXA, has announced that the agency will use DNEPR space launch system to launch OICETS (Optical Inter-Orbit Communications Engineering Test Satellite). Initially OICETS was to be launched with Japan's H-IIA rocket, however the delay in their development and a lack of time in the schedule force JAXA to utilize Russian's DNEPR system. For those who are too young to remember Cold War, DNEPR space launch system used to be Russian's inter-continental ballistic missiles (ICBM). As you may guess, the OICETS satellite will be launched from a silo."

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  1. Check it over reallllly good folks by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny
    Boy are they going to be suprised if the backup systems kick in and the ICBM slams into Washington D.C.

    Seriously however, I can't think of a better use for old Russian ICBMs.

    1. Re:Check it over reallllly good folks by eln · · Score: 2, Funny

      As long as the research satellite doesn't contain any nuclear warheads, I think we're probably safe if it impacts, unless it hits someone directly on the head, which one would have to take as some sort of sign from God that maybe today wasn't the best day to get out of bed.

    2. Re:Check it over reallllly good folks by bzebarth · · Score: 2, Funny
      "Would you like to play a game?"
      "How about, Global Thermonuclear War?"

      I guess I'm probably dating myself with that one.

    3. Re:Check it over reallllly good folks by idontgno · · Score: 4, Funny
      Lets hope that the US doesn't have an automated response system that watches for anything coming out of the silos. It doesn't make for good international relations to launch a couple thousand nukes in response to communications satellite.

      Oh, good point, good point. Put that into the "Cost" column in the Cost-Benefit analysis for our Global Satellite Telecommunications Domination plan.

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    4. Re:Check it over reallllly good folks by dustinbarbour · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unless of course it nails you while you are in bed. Then it *WAS* quite obviously your day to get out of bed.

    5. Re:Check it over reallllly good folks by dhakbar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Every Slashdot reader would absolutely LOVE to get nailed in bed, for it is but a pipe dream...

    6. Re:Check it over reallllly good folks by tandr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously however, I can't think of a better use for old Russian ICBMs.

      Well, I could not think of better use for old American ICBMs either. Or Chinese.

  2. heh by Renraku · · Score: 2, Funny

    (minutes after launch)

    This just in!

    Rhode Island has been consumed in a fiery explosion!

    Also just in, the word "oops" is heard around the world, supposedly originating from a team of scientists and launch coordinators..

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    1. Re:heh by MrP-(at+work) · · Score: 2, Funny

      HEY NOW! I live in RI =(

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  3. I Dunno... by JossiRossi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seems a bit too much like a James Bond Villian plot.

    "That's right Mr. Bond. The japanese science missile is actually carrying a nuclear payload, and there is no one here to stop me MWHAHAHAH! Now I'm going to put this "stop missile" remote control over here and leave the room secure in the fact that you can't possibly escape your restraints... MWHAHAHAHAH!"

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  4. Sigh. by mumblestheclown · · Score: 2, Informative

    If it's a relic, then it's not Russian, it's Soviet. If you want to call it current then it could be Russia, but then there would be some irony, as the name DNEPR is the name of the most important river in Ukraine, which is (in case any of you were sleeping while recent news was transpiring), a completely different country (much to Russia's consternation). In fact, if the Russians haven't yet changed the name of the DNEPR system, it only goes to further evidence their thinly veiled ambitions on Ukraine.

  5. The ICBM contains...... by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    The ICBM contains a beowulf-cluster of sharks with friggen lazer beams mounted on their heads. It be be piloted by giant alien ant overlords (which I welcome) led by Bruce Willis. There, does that cover it all?

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    1. Re:The ICBM contains...... by mogrify · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, forgetting some running Slashdot gags is for old people.

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    2. Re:The ICBM contains...... by melted · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's led by Natalie Portman, you, insensitive clod.

    3. Re:The ICBM contains...... by Cigarra · · Score: 2, Funny

      Netcraft confirms: Russian ICBMs are dead.

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  6. This article definatly lacks definate articles by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The Japanese space agency, JAXA, has announced that the agency will use the DNEPR space launch system to launch the OICETS (Optical Inter-Orbit Communications Engineering Test Satellite). Initially the OICETS was to be launched with Japan's H-IIA rocket, however the delay in their development and a lack of time in the schedule force JAXA to utilize the Russian's DNEPR system. For those who are too young to remember the Cold War, the DNEPR space launch system used to be the Russian's inter-continental ballistic missiles (ICBM). As you may guess, the OICETS satellite will be launched from a silo."

    You know, Engrish can be cute, or it can be a pain to read.

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  7. Russians, military funding, and the private sector by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Interesting
    In addition to the Japanese project, a Russian nuclear sub crew will get some live-fire training while launching the (privately-funded) Planetary Society's Cosmos 1 solar sail project in March of 2005.

    There are also companies that partner with Russian airbases to take wealthy Westerners up in basically anything with wings. Having a Yankee in the back seat pays for the gas and maintenance, and helps the pilot get some flight hours.

    Hey, if you're short on hard currency to pay your troops, why not take some Western cash and make someone happy (whether it be through launching a space probe or giving 'em the ride of a lifetime) while your troops are getting their training.

  8. If it *does* head for DC... by mogrify · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... I think we can be reasonably certain that our brand-new, fully-functioning ballistic missile defense system will not intercept it...

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  9. Serious Comment: Japan & Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I, for one, am glad that Tokyo chose to cooperate with Russia on the next satellite launch. The other 3 options are the USA, France, and China.

    Apparently, the latest Japanese assessment that China is a hostile foreign power has pervaded the government of Japan, and Tokyo will not be cooperating with Beijing for the intermediate future.

    For those who are not aware, the Japanese government recently issued a defense whitepaper identifying Beijing as a hostile military threat. Unlike the Taiwanese, the Japanese do not wish to hand critical space/aeronautical technologies over to the butchers in Beijing.

  10. Re:WHAT?? by stupidfoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    no kidding

    wtf do all the acronyms mean?

  11. About time by AviLazar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is nice to finally see some old war technology used for beneficial purposes. While this is not the first time it has been done - it is always nice to hear. Especially when a group takes an obvious military weapon only device and transforms it into something useful (i.e. the military uses decomissioned tanks to make barrier reefs).

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  12. Sealaunch, Redstone, Titan and others by starbird · · Score: 4, Informative

    There have been a number of rockets that were originally designed as ICBMs and then used for commercial and other purposes, it's not that uncommon. The original Redstone rockets used for Mercury came right from the USAF. Instead of being loaded with a nuclear payload they recieved a capsule. Same with Gemini and its Titan rockets.

    Sealaunch uses Zenit for the first stage in their launcher. They wre originally designed as a quick launch ICBM by the Soviets. The launch facility was a truck and the whole system was designed to fit inside of a rail tunnel, to stay out of sight from american spy satellites.

    1. Re:Sealaunch, Redstone, Titan and others by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Informative

      "USAF developed Atlas as an IRBM."
      Actually no the Atlas was an ICBM not an IRBM the Air Force IRBM was the Thor that ended up being made into the Delta. The Air Force also got the Jupiter IRBM after it was taken away from the Army.

      Also the new Atlas V is very different than the original Atlas. For one the Atlas used what is called 1 1/2 staging. It used three rocket engines feeding from one set of tanks. It then dropped the two booster engines. The tank was also very unusual in that it was a "balloon" style tank made of super thin stainless steel it was pressurized to give it strength. Then new Atlas uses a single Russian engine and a conventional structure. So if the structure is different and the engines are different what is the same?
      BTW for reference take a look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_ICBM
      And from the Wikipedia listing "The newest version of Atlas, the Atlas V, is an Atlas in name alone as it contains little Atlas technology. It no longer uses balloon tanks nor 1.5 staging, but incorporates a rigid framework for its first stage booster much like the Titan family of vehicles. Ironically, given Atlas's origin as a military weapon, the Atlas III and Atlas V use Russian-designed engines." Hey I did not even write that entry :) Oh and the Atlas always used RP/LOX and never used alcohol.
      "Titan was the only liquid fueled ICBM for the US." No the Titan I, Titan II, and Atlas where all ICBMs so it was three. The Titan I and Titan II where in the same family but very different machines. They used different fuels and the Titan II used storeables while the Titan I had to be fuel right before launch. The Titan I had a very short life span.
      "Now the ultimate irony will be when NASA starts using a few MX Peacekeeper rockets as launchers..."
      Already happening.

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  13. Re:Serious Comment: Japan & Russia by BranMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, I'm sure it's kind of mutual. Chinese have a LOONG memory, and it's only been ~60 years since the occupation of China by the Japanese was ended. The Japanese conduct in China won them great emnity - I'm sure China considers Japan a Hostile Power even after all this time.

  14. DNEPR-1 by dmitriy · · Score: 2, Informative

    DNEPR-1 is a civilian name for a rocket named (by NATO) Satan.

    Some people think it is way sexier than Delta-4 Heavy.

    Here's more stuff about this relic Russian (actually, Ukrainian) ICBM

  15. ICBM re-use by Migraineman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Both the US and the former-Soviets have programs to dispose of ICBMs through commercial-use conversions. The US turns Peacekeeper ICBMs into Taurus launch vehicles. Stanford University launched a bunch of picosats on the first Minotaur - a hybrid of the Minuteman ICBM and Pegasus upper stages. The DNEPR has launched a couple of small satellites already, and has a number of Cubesats on-deck. You can coordinate getting a Cubesat on a DNEPR launch through OSSS or TransOrbital.

  16. Re:Minor FYI on "DNEPR" by samekt · · Score: 2, Informative

    the Gambia, the Niger, the Sudan, the Yemen, and the Ukraine