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US to Pay to go to ISS

forgotten_my_nick writes "According to BBC News, Russia has announced that it will no longer ferry US astronauts to space for free (It has been doing so for two years). From 2006 the US will be expected to pay."

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  1. hey commie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    next time you need a favor from the USA i hope our government remember this!!!

  2. Abandon this puppy by cbdavis · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Big waste of money, plus we need the cash to
    send to Iraq. We farked the space program 25 years ago by cancelling Apollo at its zenith. The ISS is far from "international". Its more USA than anything else. No other country can afford it, so why should we. Let in burnup and we can watch the video on fark.

  3. ungrateful Russians... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    if they want it this way then let the Russians build thier own space station. America the powerful can do without others since the USA is the greatest nation ever to exist on the face of the planet.

    All naysayers can get stuffed!

  4. Re:Repaid already? by AstroDrabb · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    Russia has had to shoulder 100% of the transportation costs.
    Oh, the poor Russians. We had to fund _everything_ else. Russia just had to use some of their rocket technology. Big deal. The USA has put _far_ more into the ISS than any other nation. So I guess we should feel sorry for Russia and let them out of their side of the deal while we still fund the majority of the ISS?
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  5. Oh get real by stratjakt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The US has bankrolled the whole project.

    Maybe the line item didn't read "payment for taking us to ISS", but our tax dollars have been funding the whole shebang.

    International my ass. We should be going it alone, not bankrolling other nations science programs.

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  6. Re:International relations by Rayonic · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    When you're obsessed, everything is seen through the prism of that obsession.

    You're obsessed with hating George W. Bush, apparently.

  7. Re:In related news... by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    They are correct; we are funding, if not building, nearly all of the station, even the limited core-complete version that was the plan immediately prior to Columbia's loss. The new core-complete plan, as shown here, shows launch methods. Items funded by other countries:

    JEM (Japanese Experiment Module, Japan funded)
    Columbus (European Research Module, EU funded)
    Zvezda (Service module, Russia funded)
    RRM (Russian Research Module, Russia funded if it ever launches)

    This page has an accurate image showing who funded what. Of course, SPP is unlikely to ever be built at this point (according to the Russians), and RRM is unlikely as well, so shrink the Russian contribution considerably.

    Russia funds/funded around 2 percent of ISS; the remainder comes from the US and other Western countries. And guess who funds the majority of that? That's right. The US.

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  8. Then good luck to go to your station by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    say we tell the Russians to go screw off and not let them use the 90%+ of the space station that we funded. See, we can be just as childish. Thats, right. Any nation that wants to get "technical" about what they have given to the ISS, we can just remind them of _our_ contributions of the majority of the ISS.

    Good,

    In the mean time I wish you good luck to go to YOUR station.

    Oh wait thats right you have no means to reach it. Maybe you can itch a ride from the Chineses? Or maybe your government is working in some prayer propelled spacecraft?

  9. Re:You were buying security, not spacecraft by ahdeoz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If they're going to openly be our enemies, kill them. We don't need to pay tribute to them.

  10. Re:Repaid already? by Yorrike · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    No one is asking you to feel sorry for the Russians. They can't afford to keep putting US astronauts in space.

    The USA has put _far_ more into the ISS than any other nation.

    So what? Would you like us to throw you a fucking parade? If you're upset, talk to your government, they seem to be fine with throwing huge amounts of cash at the ISS.

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  11. Re:Well then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    you're either trolling or ignorant, either way you're a cunt.

  12. You're Right, for all the Wrong Reasons by thelizman · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    The US should realize that we can't count on other countries. For anything. Take Russia for instance. We underwrite their space program by funding their portion of the ISS. Then, we pay for their Cosmonaut training. We foot the bill for tracking, logistical support, and rescue standby everytime they drop a capsule back down on Siberia.

    Neither can we count on people like you to actually do your homework. What you fail to realise is that this is part of Russia putting the squeeze on to extort more money out of the US to build more spacecraft. Russia, meanwhile, is staring down the cash-spicket knowing it'll be shut off any second now because the Russian military can neither confirm nor deny it transferred missile technology to Iran.

    And make no mistake, it's not simply the hundreds of millions that are going into the Baikonur Cosmodrome, but the potentially billions more that will be lost on sales of RSV Energiya products and booster sales when the US embargoes Russian space products. So kick back and giggle with glee that someone else is trying to shaft the US, but before you bliss out on schadenfreude, you might want to get a clue. Russia isn't doing us a favor. They're stiffing us like an immigrant taxi driver.

  13. Re:In related news... by fingerfucker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Americans are stupid lazy fuckers.

  14. Re:Russia seems different since the school inciden by geekoid · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    USA - The world is NOT your enemy!

    49% of us know...we really do.

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  15. Just as long as we charge them for things too! by Zathras11 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Then I don't have a problem with it. I'm sure
    we do things for them that they don't pay for,
    and it should stop RIGHT FUCKING NOW! Or 2006.
    And if we give foreign aid to Russia, that
    should stop too. We can ALL pay our own way!

  16. Re:in... by lahi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why rubles, of course. They would prefer hard cash to dollars, no?

    -Lasse

  17. Re:Repaid already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    > I was also in california shortly after canada declined to support you war. And I was literally spit upon.

    I give this troll a 2 out of 10. Califonia is the most anti-american place on the planet. You should of said like Idaho or Iowa or something.

    BTW, Canadian scientists helped build Iraq's Super Gun.

    BTW, Canada still helps over 2,000 Nazi war criminals. It's the only country on the planet where Nazi are listed in the phone book. Here's info on that.

  18. Re:WTG Russia. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    'how excally does 'mankind' benifit from by going into space?'

    My god what sort of geek are you! You shouldn't even have to ask that question.

  19. Re:WTG Russia. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Damn those Neocons! I wish they would take their flying saucers and get back to Neoconia.

    Idiot. You must be American.

  20. Re:Well then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Fuck Off Vitus.

    The Fucking U S of A paid for the 'Russian' part of the space station and has been giving russia money for 13 years now to prop up your economy (if you can call it that... Every hear the phrase, "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work."? shithead)

  21. Re:WTG Russia. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    And only Europeons (intentional mispelling) would bother wasting prescious time bitching about it.

  22. Re:Repaid already? by CK2004PA · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Oh kind Frenchman, you put flowers on the tombs in Normady? No you didn't. You spray painted swaztikas on them. Thanks, we appreciate that. Now, back to teaching my children about never helping the French, ever..ever AGAIN!

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    "I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator"-Adolf Hitler or George W Bush?
  23. Re:Repaid already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    It's rather pointless for one to try and have a rational discussion with a "conspiracy" theorist as one's arguments will only be taken as part of the conspiracy. So, quit whining. John Kerry lost. The end. Get a life (oh, sorry you're reading /. )

    For the record; I didn't like any of the candidates so I didn't vote (and I was a registered Democrat).