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$1.5 Million Bar-code Scheme Bilks Wal-Mart Stores

nomrniceguy writes "Two couples have been charged in a price-switching scheme that allegedly defrauded Wal-Mart stores in 19 states of $1.5 million over the last decade. Authorities said the scheme involved using a home computer to produce UPC bar codes for cheaper products and slipping them over the real codes on high-priced items. The suspects then allegedly sold the merchandise, or returned it for refunds or store gift cards that also were sold."

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  1. Doesn't add up by jardin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If they were rung up as lower priced items, then wouldn't it show the wrong items on the cash register/receipts? I don't understand how the cashiers didn't catch on. And how did they go about returning these items when the wrong items (and prices) were printed on the receipts?

    1. Re:Doesn't add up by stickystyle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Have you been to a WalMart?
      The people that work there are not like in the commericals, they are just scaning you product, waiting till it's there chance to die.

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    2. Re:Doesn't add up by tmbg37 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The article said the the couple purchased items during busy periods, so probably the checkout clerk either didn't notice/didn't want to hold up the line. It's also likely that the employees just didn't care enough to make a fuss about it.

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    3. Re:Doesn't add up by trevdak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Having worked in a Wal-Mart for one summer, I can assure you that I not only didn't pay attention to the register display thing, but I would've welcomed some excitement of someone actually stealing from the store. Then again, for there to be any excitement I'd either have to be an accomplice or actually bust them. Hmmm.

      Worst job I've ever had.

      I never noticed anyone stealing so Wal Mart don't sue me when you read this.

    4. Re:Doesn't add up by petecarlson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps they printed their own recipts with the right item and price. I did this once at best Buy when I needed a recipt for a cell phone that I had bought the stupid insurance for. The reciept had faded to the point where it was hardly legible. They told me it wasn't valid because they couldn't read it. I went home and printed a new recipt with a thermal printer and took it to another store where they replaced my phone.

    5. Re:Doesn't add up by trs9000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The receipt first of all has the wrong item, and secondly says it was only purchased for $10. Even if they are dumb enough to mistake the plasma television for a toaster, wouldn't they only get their $10 back?

      Yes, in theory. However, one of the reasons my mom loves walmart (and i cant really argue this point) is that they will take *anything* back. No receipt? Fine! Got it somewhere else? No problem! You broke it?! and coughed on it and it's a food product?!! Sure, we'll take it back! They are very accomadating with returns.

    6. Re:Doesn't add up by BinaryOpty · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The possible reasons why the cashiers probably didn't notice are: 1. they don't care enough to name-match things they're scanning, 2. they didn't speak/read english well enough to know the difference, 3. the couple selected objects that had multiple versions spanning a price range (like buying a 512MB flash card with the price of a 128MB one), and 4. they used self checkouts (once Wal-mart implemented them). If they did bilk Wal-mart out of 1.5 million, then I'd say at least one of the four above were true at some point in their spree.

      On the returns side, if they returned it for refunds sans reciept (like most stores will allow around Christmastime) then they could possibly do return them to make money.

    7. Re:Doesn't add up by mondaypickle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most of the self check-out things weigh things after u scan them to make sure its the right item, so this wouldnt work on self check-out machines

    8. Re:Doesn't add up by TrentC · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I used to work at Fry's Electronics, and we had a pair of thieves who did this.

      They'd paste the UPC of a lower-priced item over the sticker of a higher-priced item of similar make (handhelds were good for this). Even if the checker was looking at the display, you might not catch the fact that the model numbers on the PDAs didn't match. The guys at the door didn't always catch it either.

      Basically, they took advantage of two things at my location: the fact that relabelling items that had price changes did not always happen 100% (the result being that sometimes an item scanned at a different price than was ont he sticker; and believe me, I handled plenty of customers who complained that the CD/DVD/software that said $19.99 on the sticker rang up at $29.99) and the fact that many items Fry's purchased were often bought at clearance or through a special arrangement, so oftentimes the items had custom stickers over the original barcode.

      So you have A) items that legitimately had UPC stickers on them, and B) items that scanned at different prices. It was a recipe for disaster; we only caught them when someone noticed them sticking a label on a product.

      Jay (=

    9. Re:Doesn't add up by ErikZ · · Score: 3, Insightful


      When you pay your workers as little as possible, they don't give a damn.

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    10. Re:Doesn't add up by shufler · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It should be pointed out that this is in fact, honest to goodness Wal*Mart policy. The official Wal*Mart literature and training clearly states it's their policy to take back ANYTHING. The reasoning they give is that a happy customer is a returning customer.

      Ask anyone who's worked there long enough, and they'll tell you all sorts of stories about people returning things which they don't even carry. Inventory time becomes hilarious in a very unhilarious way.

      The policy doesn't extend to everything though. I belive things like CDs and DVDs can only be exchanged for the same item. It should also be noted that opened murchandise isn't resold, and that stores will donate a certain amount to charity. The rest is thrown in the trash compactor.

    11. Re:Doesn't add up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's also likely that the employees just didn't care enough to make a fuss about it.

      It actually has nothing to do with caring. I worked at a grocery store for quite a long time earlier this year, and store policy, it seems for most retail stores is not to do anything to interfere with a customer who is shoplifting, ripping you off, ect. Furthermore, the customer is always right rule still holds. The only time a lowly checker is supposed to even consider doing anything is if the manager instructs them to do so. And since they are told to wait until after it's over to notify the manager, and they probably didn't goto the same cashier twice, it's not hard to not get caught doing it (although, they did it too much, and eventually did get caught).

    12. Re:Doesn't add up by NevermindPhreak · · Score: 4, Interesting
      1.5 million / 10 years / 365 days / 4 people

      an average of just over a hundred bucks a day per person. shouldnt be too hard, espically once you get your shit together, to keep up that type of scam rate.

      also, you have to figure in the fact that any loss prevention team is going to quote any damage estimate at as high as possible. when i was younger, me and some friends tried to rip off walmart in the same way, except we just cut the UPC from one product and put it on another. trust me when i say the cashiers could really care less. however, we were busted by some undercover shoppers in the process. we put a $20 UPC on a $30 product, but the police report quoted $50 worth of stolen property.

    13. Re:Doesn't add up by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wal Mart is the king in data tracking. They are the people who know that pop tart sales go up after a hurricane. I would find it hard to believe that someone could forge a walmart reciept as each one has it's own unique code which is associated with the specific transaction. Even if it's just a stick of gum or some rolaids they keep track of it all. I would think it would be hard to forge.

      It makes me wonder why anyone would try to rip off walmart.

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    14. Re:Doesn't add up by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like an IBM commercial.

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      In Soviet America the banks rob you!
    15. Re:Doesn't add up by Tet · · Score: 4, Funny
      It makes me wonder why anyone would try to rip off walmart.

      Judging by the article, there would appear to be at least 1,500,000 very good reasons...

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    16. Re:Doesn't add up by roie_m · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, because they didn't try to steal the $30 product, they tried to pay $20 for it. By your calculations, they stole $20+$10=$30.
      But, when someone else went to buy the original $20 item, they probably just looked up the price and charged them $20. The real value of the steal was $10+(five minutes of some cashier's time at minimum wage)

    17. Re:Doesn't add up by drawfour · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I worked at Wal-mart during college. I worked in the Sporting Goods department -- so I sold ammunition and guns. Ammunition is something that you are NOT allowed to resell once it has been returned -- it's an explosive, after all. Well, wouldn't you know it, but we would accept returned ammunition with a smile on our face. Luckily we never restocked it... instead we donated it to the local police department. It was a tax write-off, and the local PD got plenty of ammo for target practice and stuff. But it was plain stupid to accept a return on an item that we knew we would not be able to sell again and that we couldn't return to the manufacturer (defective items are returned with usually no problems). But we did it to keep people happy...

    18. Re:Doesn't add up by rah1420 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just can't see them having the weights of every single purchasable item in the database.

      If they're doing Item Data Sync (and I know for a fact Wally World is, along with some other retailers -- since they're doing it with my employer) not only do they know the price, the UPC code, the weight, the color, but they know the inner pack (how many in a "multi-pack" if any,) how many per case, and the cube of the item so that they know how much volume the item will take up in the truck and how much real estate it will consume on the pallet. We have Logistics Strategy Analysts who think it's a Good Day (tm) when they can get a truck that gets closer to the nirvana of 4000 cube (which is the theoretical capacity of a 53' trailer.) The cube data that is provided by Item Data Sync allows them to max out shipments without "weighing out" (being overweight) or "cube out" (being too big to fit on a single trailer.)

      It's a trivial matter to send this weight data to a checkout scale.

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  2. Re:Is it that simple to make UPC codes? by stupidfoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you new to computers?

    That weird box sitting on your desk is called a "printer". Some of these "printers" can even print "pictures".

    Now look at a UPC. It's made up of black lines (the numbers are just for show) which is about the easiest thing to print in the world. Now, look in your desk drawer for "Glue".

    I think you can figure it out from there. If not, this topic has been covered ad-nasuem in 2600 for about the past 10 years (or longer?). Hell, skip the computer. You can make them with a black pen if you're bored. I've done so and tested them out when I worked in retail. It's really not that tough.

  3. idiots + crime = caught by FuturePastNow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    returned it for refunds or store gift cards that also were sold

    That's how they got caught. This was actually a fairly original idea; if they'd used it very sparingly, and only kept the items for themselves, they most likely would never have been caught at it. Most criminals' undoing is in not knowing when to stop.

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    1. Re:idiots + crime = caught by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 3, Informative

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      Two may keep counsel, putting one away?

  4. Re:Is it that simple to make UPC codes? by Frostalicious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One would assume it would be pretty hard for your Joe Sixpack to go out and just print these things willy-nilly.

    All you need is a barcode printer and some software which are publicly available for a few hundred dollars, like from these guys. Get a UPC number off a pack of chewing gum and put the sticker on a mountain bike. The hard part is finding a checker who won't notice. I can't figure out that one.

  5. kid's play by thetzar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I did this when I was about 8 years old; swapped the price tag for one thing that I could afford (that was like $1) over another which I wanted (which was like $5). The sales drone didn't notice, but the guilt was enough to keep me from doing it again.

    Fancier bells and whistles, but this is the same thing. It'll be interesting to see how they pulled off bilking one of the defining features of UPC codes which I didn't have to deal with: When scanned, the register should display a description of the product. The answer was probably lazy/unmotivated register drones. Some things never change.

  6. Bebeep! by trs9000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    what kind of television is this? Bebeep! oh oh its a... toaster....? huh... oh man is that a ten-speed? Bebeep!... no.. huh... tricycle... Oh.... alright a Lindows machine!!.... Bebeep!... n-no?.... i see... 5 gallon jar of pickles....

  7. Too bad Re-code.com isn't still around! by cdf12345 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw the guys who did Re-code.com at 2600's 5th hope this summer in NYC. Basically you could create a barcode for any item, and print them.

    Finally they closed down because of pressure from walmart and huge legal fees needed to fight them.

    But they got their point across, so I could see someone doing this quite easily. Now I'm wondering how they got caught.

    I think the best thing to do it go to a walmart and just sticker random items, so that random people are buying the altered items.

    There's a 10 min video on Re-code.com about the case. It's worth a quick viewing.
    Seems like a way to say "I didnt put the sticker there!"

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  8. Self-checkout fraud possible by turtlboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked at a Wal-Mart for a while as a cashier. Our store had 4 self-checkout machines where you ring up the items yourself. One cashier was assigned to "Paystation" where people could pay with checks, and other assorted stuff the machines couldn't handle. When working at the Paystation, you were given a barcode card which when scanned would bring up an admin-like menu with price override options and other assorted "cashier" tasks. At one point, I scanned that barcode at my register, printed a receipt to show the number it represented, took that home and recreated it on my computer and printed a new version. I taped it on the back of my name tag, and it worked like a charm. Here's the scary thing: Cash Office also used a barcode for those machines to refund money, etc. They could literally empty the machine of cash with their card. If one took a picture of their card (which usually was worn around the neck in plain sight), it wouldn't be hard to recreate the bar code without knowing the numbers. Talk about fraud potential... I almost wanted to do it as a proof-of-concept, but thought that just being caught with the barcode would get me in big trouble, so I didn't end up trying.

  9. Re:Is it that simple to make UPC codes? by cmallinson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Get a UPC number off a pack of chewing gum and put the sticker on a mountain bike. The hard part is finding a checker who won't notice. I can't figure out that one.

    I think the cashier would notice you paying for the plasma TV with a $5 bill. That's what differentiates dumb criminals, and the ones you don't usually find out about. You don't swap the code from a $1 item with 1 $3000 item. You take the sticker off a 17 inch lcd, and put it on a 19 inch one. I wouldn't even put the sticker on there permanently. It just has to be the first sticker the cashier sees. Once it's scanned, get rid of the evidence. Walmart is the perfect place to do this. They sell everything, and pay their people nothing, so the cashier will likely not have a clue what you are doing.

  10. Let the buyer be aware! by Homer's+Donuts · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Reminds me of the stories in the early 70's of people changing their utility bills. Bills came printed on punch (IBM, Hollerith) cards.

    "Enterprising" students would run them thru keypunch machines and make the number negative or add a decimal point.

    These machines are also the origin of the "hanging chad". Always check your input. Like the state of Florida, Walmart could have caught this by auditing returns.

  11. It's even simpler than that. by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's even simpler than that. One summer about 8 years ago when I was in high school, I sat down and decoded the UPCs of a few products in an afternoon. Once you know what the codes are, it's trivial to draw your own bar codes using MS Paint. You can then print them off using any old ink-jet printer. Don't believe me? This is the page that I wrote up after figuring it all out. I made the UPC graphics on that page using just Paint. I also printed off some test barcodes using the cheapo inkjet we had, and ran them by the "price checker" thingys in the local Target. They scanned no problem.

    I've wondered for years whether it would really be that easy to get away with switching UPCs just like this. I guess the answer is "pretty easy." Of course, if you get as greedy as these people did, you're obviously going to get caught before too long.

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    1. Re:It's even simpler than that. by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 5, Informative

      Oh, one more thing I forgot to mention. This wasn't available 10 years ago of course, but now you can just write the number under a UPC code down, then go to Google and type it in, and viola, auto-generated UPC graphic, ready for printing. Try it out.

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  12. GOOD policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I love that about walmart. It's because of that that I am a returning customer.

    I remember when they tried to force me to use a TI graphing calculator in middle school. I used my HP for the most part, just as long as I had the TI with me the school didn't complain. But I've never had an item break as much as that TI, and each time it broke I just brough it back to Walmart. Seriously, a little bump on part of the screen and the thing would shatter. One broke when I slid the case on at an odd angle. Fuck you TI! I love you Walmart!

  13. HOWTO: print your own barcodes with linux by lkcl · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) install debian
    2) install a thermal label printer (the dymo 310 is nice)
    3) install pbm2wxl if using dym310 (use google to locate)
    4) type "apt-get install barcode"
    5) run echo thebarcodenumber | barcode | lpr -Pdym310
    6) when the local law enforcement agencies come knocking on your door claiming that the GNU barcode program is illegal and subversive software, RUN LIKE HELL!

  14. Shady, but probably legal by Basje · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The pricing on the goods can be constituted as an offer. On accepting the offer, a contract is entered. The new pricing (bar code) can be viewed as a counter-offer. If the cashier accepts, the counter-offer is accepted and a contract is entered, making it a legal sale.

    Of course, ethically it is wrong, but legally, it's not done yet.

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    1. Re:Shady, but probably legal by jcr · · Score: 3, Informative

      The new pricing (bar code) can be viewed as a counter-offer. If the cashier accepts, the counter-offer is accepted and a contract is entered, making it a legal sale.

      Clever argument, but the chances of a court going along with it are about the same as the proverbial snowball's chance in hell.

      -jcr

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    2. Re:Shady, but probably legal by TiredGamer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except there is no legal representative of Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. at the time of sale. The cashier is a customer service representative that is aiding you at the time of sale with the computer transaction. The offer of sale is made at the shelf and by completing the transaction at the point-of-sale you are accepting the offer of sale and completing the terms of the contract. At no time can you negotiate the sale unless you approach a Customer Service Manager, in which case you lose any sort of advantage since they are actually semi-knowledgable.

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    3. Re:Shady, but probably legal by Nurgled · · Score: 4, Insightful

      By replacing the barcode, you are not saying "I will pay $5 for this microwave oven", you are saying "This microwave oven is a bottle of soda".

      I suppose the same argument could apply -- the customer service representative agrees that the oven is a bottle of soda -- but you can't argue that you are offering a lower price for the item because barcodes identify what an item is and not how much an item costs.

    4. Re:Shady, but probably legal by dk.r*nger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The pricing on the goods can be constituted as an offer. On accepting the offer, a contract is entered. The new pricing (bar code) can be viewed as a counter-offer. If the cashier accepts, the counter-offer is accepted and a contract is entered, making it a legal sale.

      No. A barcode isn't just a price, but a code representing an item, which in the cashregister is linked to a price.

      If you put the barcode from a pack of chewinggum on a mountainbike, the barcode still represents the offering of gum at $0.77, and that is the offer the contract is concerning. The fact that you are carrying a $300 bike out of the store is just theft.

  15. Burger King and Super Mario by Geburah · · Score: 5, Funny

    A handful of years back, in a time when my morals weren't exactly as defined as they are now, (heh) I really wanted the brand spankin new "Super Smash Bros." for Super Nintendo. Problem was, I was fresh outta coppers. Yep. Not a dime to my name. So I 'borrowed' my dad's credit card, (who I share the same name with. Rock.) and headed on down to Kmart and bought the game.

    Obviously all this hard work of buying video games would make anybody hungry, so I went to silence my grumbling belly meats by making a stop to the Burger King. After ordering my food and taking a seat, I began to unwrap my new Super Smash Bros video game over an 8-piece chicken tender value meal.

    It is here where the clouds parted, and God himself reached down and touched me. It is here, that I calculated and measured the exact balance and weight of the Super Smash Bros cartridge in comparison to the equal amount of ketchup packets.

    I took the packets and placed them neatly back in the cardboard game housing, packaging everything back up. I took the instruction manual as well, and replaced that with a good 7 or 8 napkins, folded rather nicely. Then, I went next store to Office Max, and had them shrink-wrap the game. Viola. Slap on one of them sticky-hangy-tab thingies, and you got yourself a game fresh off the shelf from behind those locked glass windows.

    So, now the scary part. Time to find a differant Kmart. Sweaty and horribly nervous looking, I went inside to make the return. I claimed something to the tune of it being my birthday and that I had already owned this gift, so I wanted to return it. Everything went surprisingly smooth, except for the camera staring at my face. I still wont go back there to this day. :)

    Now - Think about the possible following scenario for just a moment. Imagine - Your in your early teens, and you did your chores. It was a nice sunny weekend afternoon, and your dad felt like doing somethin nice for you. He remembers you going off about that new game. He buys it, brings it home to surpise you... your so excited! You guys have one of those rare but really heart felt father and son kinda hugs. Life, is perfect...

    You open the box to your new game. In it, you find a small brick of ketchup packets and neatly folded napkins.

    Sweet Jesus, I would give my first newborn child to a rabbid tiger just to see that facial expression.

    PS: I used to work at Office Max. One day, a guy came back in after just buying a typewriter. Instead of a typewriter, he found a bag of potting soil. He was irate - I smiled. =)

    1. Re:Burger King and Super Mario by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny
      Sweet Jesus, I would give my first newborn child to a rabbid tiger just to see that facial expression.
      LOL! I bet it was like my brother's when he found no toy in his Kinder egg.

      Why was there no toy in his Kinder egg? Because I got home from school before him, carefully opened the foil, cut the chocolate shell along the seams with a sharp knife and removed the toy. A simple matter of soldering the chocolate back together with hot tea and replacing the foil and voila - one kid roaring his eyes out.

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  16. Retailers use this for competitive pricing... by switzer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This method is used to obtain competitive pricing all the time. For example, if Half Life 2 is going on sale at the beginning of the month, and Joe Retailer wants to know how much his competitors are going to charge:

    Just print off the UPC code onto a sticker, and go into a competitor (like Walmart) a week before it goes on sale. Put the sticker onto another game, and ask the cashier for a price check. The scanner computer already has the pricing information in it, so the price that they are going to charge shows up on the register!

  17. Somehow I'm not surprised at quite a few responses by YukiKotetsu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At first, I was just disgusted at these people who decide to scam the system the best they can and for as much as they can. When I saw they'd be getting 8-whatever years for this, I felt a little better.

    Then I see people posting on tips how to do this more efficiently, how they have done it at Home Despot, Best Buy, and so on, and I wonder...

    Are these the same people that think downloading movies and music is just fine? How are you justifying this, since every thief I know has some way to justify it.

    They charge too much, therefore it is right of you to systematically lower the price via a UPC swap?

    You couldn't afford it, therefore it is right of you to systematically lower the price via a UPC swap?

    You wouldn't have bought it at such a high price, it is right of you to systematically lower the price via a UPC swap?

    So, by stealing an item for a lower price, you're driving up the price of the rest of their inventory. You can now justify their high prices by requiring them to set the prices higher to account for loss, the loss you have created. Nice job.

    Everyone has some kind of justification, I bet these criminals had some as well. They did not want to work, found the system easy to exploit, and wanted free money... what better reason is there really? Sure, they are "innocent until proven guilty" I suppose.

    I'm not sure if it's the lack of morals, or just the lack of brainpower that causes such things. Self-justification of stealing is still just stealing and it makes me sick.

  18. Someone tried this with me once... kind of. by cvd6262 · · Score: 4, Informative

    When I worked at REI (Camping, climbing, etc, gear), we were always told to handle the merchandise ourselves. A customer once came to my register with a large internal frame backpack, and instead of handing it to me, he just pointed the pricetag at me. I grabbed the sac out of his hands and said, "Hmmm. This seems a little heavy." At which point I opened it and found a $110 rope. They guy was totally pale and muttered, "Huh. I wander how that got it there." I asked if he wanted to buy it and he said, "no," so I rang him up for the backpack and restocked the rope.

    More on topic, this was something that was part of the training. they taught us how to find fake pricetags, hidden items (carabiners in shoes, tents in backpacks, etc.), and a whole bunch of other tricky stuff. It goes to show that if you don't pay for good training up front, you'll pay for it later.

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  19. Re:Somehow I'm not surprised at quite a few respon by rusty0101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I look at most of those posts and think of them in the same sense as posts on how to make a nuclear bomb. There are actually a lot of people who have access to a large percentage of the material as well as the technical knowledge and resources necesary to construct one. You or I may not have ready access to fisionable materials in the quantities and purety necessary, but even if you or I did, that would not make it at all likely that we would create a nuclear bomb.

    Do I have the resources to do UPC label creation and swaping. What I don't already have at home I can easily pick up at a local office max, or office Depot. Possibly even at the very stores mentioned in the article.

    I look at the responses earlier in the listing as "Idiots, if you are going to do this, you need to do it this way..."

    If I were to decide to use UPC relabling at Best Buy to get that great new 42" LCD HDTV, I would visit first, find a manufacture with both a 42" LCD HDTV, and a 35" LCD HDTV, write down the UPC for that 35" edition, go home print up an approprieate sized copy of that to overlay the UPC on the 42" edition, then during a busy time at Best Buy, go in, put the 42" set on a cart, go stand in line, and while waiting in line discreatly overlay the UPC.

    Now note I began that with 'If I were to decide..' I honestly have no interest in doing this. I may like the idea of having a 42" LCD HDTV, but I happen to have worked for the stuff I own, and I have no interest in changing that.

    I don't have a justification for such an action, as I have no interest in performing the action. That doesn't mean that I can't participate in the thought experiment, or write about what I know about the topic in question.

    -Rusty

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