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Designing Diabetes Gear?

Joe asks: "I'm a grad student studying medical product design. My thesis work is being done on devices used in the monitoring and treatment of Diabetes. I'd like to solicit feedback from the Slashdot community regarding the state of the art in the field. Are you a Type One who loves the OneTouch UltraSmart, or a Type Two that swears by the multi-strip AccuCheck Compact? My goal is to develop products that meet the varied needs of diabetics, in a manner closer to the iPod, rather than the current products which resemble crappy 2-button Tiger electronics videogames. What features in these devices do you like and dislike?"

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  1. BIG High Contrast Display Readout - Data Storage by Unholy_Kingfish · · Score: 4, Interesting
    My father has adult onset and uses the One Touch. His degraded vision was one of the major problems he developed as a result. I know he has trouble seeing the LCD. Another problem is the loading of the tiny strips. I imagine the multi strip would be better for him, but he resists change and having to pay for it.

    If you are going for the cool stuff, a reader that store the results, timestamps them and can display graphs of the sugar levels would be a great tool for doctors. You can bring in the unit to the doctor and he/she can get all the information they need. Adding wireless or USB/Firewire connectivity would let the doctor download the data file directly.

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  2. Implants and tattoos by cmaxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Implants constantly monitoring blood chemical levels and reporting to your PDA would be kinda nice.

    A tattoo on your arm that responds chromatically to insulin, sugar, etc. etc. levels in the blood and that could be read by something like a barcode reader would be good. Doesn't even have to be visible to humans, just the machines.

    The whole puncturing yourself to get at real actual blood thing is Not Good(tm).

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    1. Re:Implants and tattoos by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Informative

      The trick is to test on the sides of your fingers and not the tips. Yes I have to test twice a day.

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  3. Insight by iawia · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm a type 1 diabetic, using a disetronic d-tron pump and a disetronic freestyle blood tester.

    One thing I've noticed is that though I test regularly, I only create overviews of test results every now and then. Those overview are important to gain insight in how well I'm regulated, though, so I should do that more often.

    Now the blood-test device has a serial cable link to my computer (linked to windows-only software, unfortunately), so I can load all the past results on my laptop (the only machine in the house that has windows installed), and create a few nice looking graphs.

    The D-Tron pump actually has an infra-red port, but for some reason no software has been released to actually make use of that. This is a shame, since my glucose-level graphs would gain a lot from the extra data of my pump's insulin extrusion.

    Then there's the additional data that can be very useful when reviewing blood glucose levels, such as 'right after a hypo', or 'ate too much ice-cream', or '1hr prolonged bolus to compensate for pasta', and such. The only way to store that, a the moment, is good old fashioned paper. Which means that I often don't...

    So for me a good device would:
    • Allow me to store either free text, or some pre-defined tag, along with the glucose-level values. (or voice tags?)
    • Allow for ease transfer of data to the PC (and preferably not just in a windows-only proprietary interface. I want to be able to load stuff into a spreadsheet and such...)
    • Allow me to read my pump data, though that is a software issue, not for the device you'll be working on

    Other things that are appreciated are: small size, inclusion of the finger-pricking thingy in the same package, being able to load a set of control-strips, backlight for checking in the dark, NO SOUND option (my wife is sleeping next to me, and I don't want to wake her just because I want to check my blood sugar).

    The freestyle also allows one to check from blood on the arm, instead of the finger. This is significantly less painfull, so encourages checking. It also lags a bit; The values from the finger will be more up-to-date than those from the arm, so it's not good for when you feel a hypo coming up. Still, a good feature.
    1. Re:Insight by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Informative

      Type 1 here, no pump.

      I've used three meters in my life:

      The One Touch II (a classic, and for a long time THE meter used by diabetics.) Big, clunky, single-strip design.

      Glucometer Dex (There is a Dex II now, I can't see what the difference is.)

      Accu-Check Compact

      I would never use the One Touch again - Lifescan still has no cartridge-based meters, and being able to load the meter with multiple strips is REALLY nice.

      The Glucometer was a damn nice meter. 10 strips per cartridge (they were the first company to release a cartridge-based meter), you could order the interface cable for free and their software (WinGlucofacts) was pretty nice, and it was free (free as in beer, that is) too.

      The Accu-Chek Compact is also really nice.
      Pros: IR data transfer
      17 strips per cartridge
      Formulary with my insurance company. That's $30 per strip refill. (You'll see a common theme that the insurance company dictates what type of insulin/meter you use to some degree. Although I'm using a Novo Nordisk insulin pen with Novo cartridges because there are no pens for Lilly insulins that dispense half-unit increments anymore.)
      AA batteries - the button cells in the Dex were annoying.
      Form factor and carrying case make it great to put in a jacket pocket for a night out.
      Adjustable puncture depth lancet device. (The other meters had this too but you had to change tips to do so.)

      Cons:
      Battery holder is loose. I often find myself having to push the batteries back in. Meter loses its time frequently because of this and has to reset the drum. The "find next unused drum slot" feature is nice in cases where you accidentally take the batteries out for too long or accidentally hit the cartridge chamber release.
      Cartridge chamber is too easy to unlatch, and comes unlatched often just by removing the meter from its case.
      No open protocol documentation, software is $30 and may be rigged to only work with their external serial-to-IR adapter instead of a normal serial IRDA port (they do not mention IRDA ports at all, they ALWAYS try to sell their $30 adapter even though I know the meter can speak to a normal IRDA port.) There are protocol dumps linked to from the Zaurus User Group forums, I think the "off-topic" section. I wrote a Perl script from those dumps, it's posted to those forums.
      Form factor of the meter/case is good for a night on the town but not as good for extended trips. The Dex case had lots of extra pockets for pen needles, extra lancets, etc. and was very flat. The Compact case has no extra pockets, just an elastic band to hold a spare test strip drum and one to hold the lancet device.
      Lancet device is not compatible with half the lancets on the market, including my personal favorite, the B-D Ultra Fine. Most lancet devices have a round holder that can also hold "flat" lancets via a friction fit. The Accu-Chek lancet device can only hold "flat" type lancets, not round ones like the B-Ds.

      The Compact also allows "alternative site" testing (i.e. not the finger) but has so many restrictions on when you can do it (see parent posts' mention of lag in the reading) that I never bother.

      Don't try to go too fancy. People say they will want it, but so far every attempt at a meter that "does everything" (onboard statistics/data collection) has bombed. Non-invasive testing is a VERY desirable feature, but so far no one has succeeded in making an accurate NI meter that wasn't more trouble than it was worth. (The Glucowatch was expensive, known for causing skin irritation, and not very accurate. Due to the skin irritation, people preferred the occasional pinprick, which with a good lancet and properly adjusted lancet device depth, you barely feel.)

      My advice: Try and convince Lilly and Novo Nordisk to bring back their 1.5 mL pen cartridges. Pens for 3 mL carts such as my new NovoPen Junior are fucking huge. :(

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  4. Type Two that swears by the multi-strip AccuCheck by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is the one I use. Frankly who cares about style? The main thing is cost. I am lucky and my insurance pays for most of my cost of strips but I know some people that even with insurance have a hard time making ends meet. It needs to be acurite, reliable, and cheap. The cheaper it is the more people can afford to test and the better control they will have over their blood sugar. Reliable means they can use the same meter for a long period of time. I so do not care about what it looks like. A back light on the screen might be nice for those with failing vision. Open specs on the dumping system so open source can make FREE tracking software to help keep the cost down as well.
    BTW I would recommend that most slashdoters get there blood sugar checked at least once a year. Some of the risk factors are over weight, are not very active, have a waist size greater then 38", eat crap, and being a member of one of these racial groups , Native American, Hispanic, Asian, or African American.
    I was over weight, and Native American and even though I was right at 38" I won the lotto and got it. Another big risk factor is if it runs in your family the problem is that it might run in your family and you might never know it. It is a sneaky thing.

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  5. Simple is better by bhima · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A few years ago I worked on a team that developed a complex blood glucose device, sort of like the one you described yourself interested in developing but the market just wouldn't bear it, so it was canceled. The only thing the market will tolerate is nearly cost free and designed so the criminally stupid can use it. Forget graphs, forget statistics, forget all of it. If you can figure out how to do it without any buttons so much the better, it's a shame we can't eliminate the user entirely. Do keep data storage and data transfer, because if there is a larger group of (walking free) self delusional pathological liars than diabetics, I'm not aware of it. It's not that I hate diabetics I just hate the devil inside them. (If my sister is reading this she knows I am talking about her too!)

    And I suppose since you're interested in doing this to begin with you already know that there are some very big and very predatory players in that market who tolerate competition less than Microsoft and are significantly less friendly. Still it's a great technology to get started with, it's very easy implement and there is a large market.

    Fair disclosure: I work for one of those big companies who may either sue you out of existence or buy you so the world can forget about you.

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  6. T1, UltraSmart by Violet+Null · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The UltraSmart is pretty good. Nice, highly readable. The backlight only comes on when you hold the button, so it saves on battery time. Those are all good things.

    Annoyances: Although it remembers the values used for previous days, it doesn't default them. Eg, if I take 2u Humalog and 8u NPH for breakfast on one day, it will use those values as the default for breakfast the next day, but it won't automatically select them; instead, I have to press the insulin button, add NPH, and add Humalog. Since the majority of the time I'm taking the same amount (or minor variation) of insulin each day, this is annoying.

    There's a serial cable to download the data, but it's Windows only. The charts and graphs that the app produces are nice, but I'd like the ability to be able to import them into the database of my choice, rather than having to open the Access file it generates. Also, the settings between the UltraSmart and the program are seperate; it doesn't transfer over (even one way) on the serial cable, which means I had to enter my ranges on the UltraSmart, and then again on the app.

    No numeric keypad. The Ultrasmart has the capability to record fat, carbohydrates, and protein entries, but it's a real PITA to enter the number "36" when you have to scroll to it (also, no way to enter exactly what it is that you ate, but a keyboard may be way too big). Hence, I don't use this feature at all, which is too bad.

  7. Re:BIG High Contrast Display Readout - Data Storag by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Accu-Chek Complete from Roche Diagnostics has most of the features you ask for, with the exception of wireless and/or USB/Firewire.

    It does feature a 19,200 baud serial port, so it's faster than most wired meters (most are 9600 baud). It is their geek's choice of meters.

    Most doctor's offices already have the software and cables necessary to download and review their patient's data. Similar software and cables are available (and included with Complete) for consumers to use at home.

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  8. Re:BIG High Contrast Display Readout - Data Storag by Violet+Null · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you are going for the cool stuff, a reader that store the results, timestamps them and can display graphs of the sugar levels would be a great tool for doctors.

    The Onetouch UltraSmart does this, though on the tiny screen it's difficult to make things out. The info can be downloaded via a serial cable and then printed out, much more readable. USB would be much easier, though.

  9. diabetes watch by nuggetman · · Score: 2, Informative

    there was a watch debuted about a year or two ago that read your blood sugar through your skin. however, it wasn't 100% accurate and recommended still doing your regular needle based sugar checks. i'm sure any innovations that can eliminate blood-based checking (and the loss of circulation to the fingers that goes with it) would be welcomed with open arms by the diabetes community.

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  10. My immediate family are all Type II. by RainbearNJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My mother is blind due to diabetes-induced glaucoma. She is stuck using a crappy end-of-life'd One Touch Profile, because all of the new, nifty meters can't be used by blind people (that is, there are no devices to help them guide the blood onto the strip, there are no voice boxes available, etc.). It's a serious issue that most of these companies (One Touch, Accuchek, Freestyle, etc.) never address. How many diabetics are blind, people? A good bunch. Why don't they design monitoring devices for their use too?

    Personally, I have a One Touch Ultra Smart, and I love 90% of it. I hate the fact that I can't edit the labels for "Health" and "Exercise" for instance. I love the graphing. I love the capillary-action strips. The 5-second test time is amazingly convenient, as well.

    My dad uses an Accuchek of some variety--he swears by it, even though it takes 10x as long for him to get a reading than I do.

    I'd love to see something that has a built-in voice box for blind people (seriously, how hard would this be nowadays??). I'd love to see that same model allow them to use the newer capillary-action strips, as well.

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  11. Type I - Use the Accu-Check, when I use it... by Aboo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd agree with the above poster who said Diabetics are mostly pathological liars, we are. Believe it or not, testing your blood sugar SUCKS. It hurts, I don't care if it's your finger or your arm. (By the way, 20 minutes ago isn't good enough for Humalog insulin, so arm testing is risky at best.) If you have a tester with an IR port, there IS software that will read and input the data, but you might need an M.D. to get it. My doctor has some really nice software for the Accu-Check, but as a "user" I'm only able to get a really really dumbed down version of it for 50 bucks from the manufacturer. >:( I don't like implants, which is why I don't pump. But if you can give me a way to test my sugar that doesn't hurt all the friggin' time, I'd use it. I like feeling good as much as the next guy, but being in pain my entire life just isn't worth it, to me. That's what I care about. With the technology and resources available today, there has got to be some way to remove the pain from treating this damn disease. At least until we can convince the Bible belt to allow continued research in stem-cell technology... But I think we'll have to destroy a lot of drug and equipment manufacturer's before that'll ever come about. :(

  12. As an EMT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As an EMT, I'd love to see timestamped results with some sort of authenticity - it's burdensome enough to do all the paperwork, but it's all the more tedious trying to read the number you scrawled on your glove sometime between marking on scene and clear-available in district.

    And the form factor is all wrong, too - at least for the portables. The strips are too tiny, the glucometer device itself, too large and too circular. Of the hosts, the AccuCheck is the best, but it's got a lot of room for improvement.

    And the device has to be rugged.

    And the display backlit with super nova-degrees of intensity and contrast.

    And do something about the strips - they yield poor results when it's cold, inflexible to the point of breaking, difficult to remove from sterile packaging without contaiminating and when combined with lancets, present yet another set of tiny sharps to be sat on by firefighters.

    And did I mention make it rugged?

  13. Unwrap that rascal! by stuffduff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is really hurting the meters IMHO is feature creep. What I'd be interested in is the equivalent of the open-source radio. That is to day: put the mechanics on a pcmcia card, compact CF appliance, or even a modified SDIO card. Then wrap it in a really simple meter that just gives you a one shot readout. All too often, the data goes into a 'proprietary trap-door' in that the patent can get it into the meter (a major accomplishment for many) but the clinic cannot access the data because that can't afford the plethora of cables/cradles/ports and or software products to access the data and do something useful with it. Maybe it's time to have the meters all have a standards compliant infra-red connection based on HL7. Then the devices can be plugged into handhelds, laptops, or even smart phones for the convenience of the patients and still be accessible to the health care providers.

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  14. Re:Cost of test strips key by josepha48 · · Score: 2, Informative
    agreed!. My roommate is a diabetic so I help him keep track of his diabetes. His meter only keeps readings for the past 14 days, so I record his doses on my pda. I also store his insulin doses on my pda so we both know when he has had his shot and how much. It has helped him more to a) test 2 times before he goes to bed, so he has an idea of which way his bloodsugar is going; b) its helped him by making sure he has gotton his shot.

    He is technically a type 1, but did not develop diabetes til he was about 19 or so. As I understand it most type 1 are usually diabetics earlier than 19, while most type 2 are usually not affect till they are older 50ish, but that is not always the case.

    The biggest problem he has had has not been calibration, as I think he uses a "OneTouch UltraSmart", but the test stips not working. Test stips suck for several reasons. If they do not get the right amount of blood on them then they fail. If the machine is not correctly calibrated then the test was useless.

    What I'd like to see, and I have seen someone making this, is a watch like device. You could wear it on your wrist and it uses ultrasound or something to test your bloodsugar. I would think that in this day and age we would be able to use some kind of ultrasonic wave or something to examine the blood without having to blead a person first. Yes its kinda startreky, but so are combined PET/CT scans. How about a mini-PET/CT scanner like device?

    The toughest part for me as the roommate of a diabetic, is dealing with all the blood all over the place. Think 5 pokes a day to test, and then bleed on the test strip, then bleed on the kitchen counter and napkins. Its really unappitising.

    If I had the knowledge I'd develop a watch or handheld device that did not need a blood sample to test the blood sugar. I believe it is possible, hey the PET/CT scan can look inside a body and give a 3d view and tell where there is cancer, so why not recalibrate and look in and see what the rest of the body is doing. Then shrink the machine lots.

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  15. Glucowatch was a bomb by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not 100% accurate is an understatement - it was apparently severly inaccurate if you were sweating.

    It also caused significant skin irritation (People preferred the occasional pinprick) and was insanely expensive. I was looking forward to it greatly but when it was released, the reviews were so horrible I didn't even bother.

    I believe the company is out of business now. The company didn't even come close to selling enough units to pay for all the R&D, the watch bombed so badly.

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  16. Being an insulin dependent diabetic... by robyannetta · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you can create something like this without the high price, I and millions of other diabetics will pray to you. Imagine: Inexpensive glucose monitoring without bloodletting. These guys did it, why can't anyone else?

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  17. A few things by Uzziel · · Score: 2, Informative
    Type I diabetic here; I use an Accu-check and take my insulin from a Humalog pen.

    Things I would like in my PDA (Personal Diabetic's Assistant):

    • no test strips. They are fscking expensive. There has got to be a way to check blood sugar without strips. Non-invasively would be optimal.
    • a scale. I don't count my carbs like I should, and part of the reason is I have a hard time estimating how many ounces of pasta I've got on my plate. A small portable scale would be nice.
    • wireless data transfer. IR would be nice, Bluetooth would be better.
    • mealtime alarm.
    • running blood glucose monitoring. A lot of other people here have already mentioned the Glucowatch. One of its features was the ability to track your glucose levels and trigger an alarm if you were heading hyper- or hypo-glycemic. I don't want to have to wait for my lips to go numb or my hands to start shaking to know that I need half a can of soda.
    • some kind of interaction with a glucose pump. If one gizmo can track my blood sugar and communicate that to a pump, that would be almost as good as an artificial pancreas.
    • as an emergency feature, an audible alarm that could speak instructions to anyone in earshot if I lose consciousness. Most of my co-workers know that I'm diabetic, but not all of them know what to do if I suddenly pass out. (That has never happened, thank God.) But a voice giving nice calm instructions would be really great in case I o.d. on insulin.
  18. I'm the father of someone with Type I by CthuluOverlord · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My daughter is five years old and was diagnosed with Type I when she was 15 months old. She was on injected insulin 3-4 times per day until this past October when we got her a Medtronic MiniMed Paradigm 712 insulin pump. Along the way she used the Bayer Glucometer Elite (now Ascensia), the OneTouch Ultra and now the Paradigm Link meter (by B-D) that works with her pump. Her first two meters both had the ability to connect to a Windows-based PC using a proprietary cable to a serial port. I bought both cables, and used them a total of maybe four times. It was cumbersome to get to the serial port on my computer, and the software provided was not good (although the Bayer WinGlucofacts wasn't too bad). Perhaps a USB connection would make more sense.

    The things I liked about the meters was their simplicity. I like the fact that all of the graphing and trending requires data upload to a computer. On the meter itself, about all you could do was see a 14- or 30-day average, plus recall (through monotonous pushing of the single multi-function button) the last few hundred readings. We only ever need to check the most recent one anyway, so scrolling through wasn't much of an issue. But the fewer the knobs and switches on the meter itself, the fewer things can go wrong.

    I'm neutral on the question of one strip at a time versus the cartridge-loaded multiple strip meters. I can see how that could be handy, but all of her meters have been one at a time and it doesn't really bother me. What is more important in terms of the strips is the smaller the amount of blood they require, the better. It's tough to get a decent amount of blood out of an infant's finger, and even now it's nice that her current meter needs only 0.3 microliters since it allows us to use a lower setting on the lancet device, which reduces the likelihood of calluses.

    The one improvement I would make to all of the meters is the addition of a backlight for the primary display, and perhaps an LED light for the "business end" where the strip is. We have to check her blood at 2:00 AM to watch for lows, and turning on the lights in the room sometimes wakes both kids.

    I would also echo the suggestion another poster made about getting a meter and performing checks on yourself for a while. It's really the only way you can truly understand.