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Learning a Foreign Language with The Sims

JavaTHut writes "The Journal Language Learning and Technology has a new article describing how The Sims can be modified to teach a foreign language. With this and other efforts at U.S.C. and M.I.T., could simulated immersion within video games become an effective way of acquiring a foreign language? Also of interest in the article are suggestions for using spatialized translation layers in foreign language songs and a Firefox extension for learning foreign vocabulary words."

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  1. Stupid Simspeak by shamowfski · · Score: 4, Funny

    I re-installed the original Sims probably 5 times before I realized that they were speaking their own language and not some german/spanish mix. I kept turning it up real loud trying to figure out what the fork they were saying.

  2. Sesame Street by Slider451 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Today's Sim gaming experience brought to you by the number ocho.

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  3. This is actually an interesting idea... by agraupe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll admit that I am intrigued. This problem does suffer the flaw that, if it is played like normal, the player doesn't really need to know what is said, and will therefore probably ignore it. I believe the whole point of immersion is to make the person *need* to know it, and to provide an environment in which they can do so. If they can make it work, I'll pay for it. I'm going to wait and see how this develops.

  4. when I was a kid by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I unknowingly prepared myself to learn English by watching American cartoons.

    When they started teaching us English as a second language in primary school, I was way ahead of every other kid, and the English teacher got me to help out the other kids.

    1. Re:when I was a kid by pe1rxq · · Score: 4, Informative

      I learned a lot from subtitled TV....
      Pretty much anything aimed not at children is subtitled in the Netherlands.
      Its great to have the original audio together with the translation.

      Another great way once you know the basics is watching the BBC with teletext page 888 on. (subtitles for the deaf) You also learn some spelling and sometimes its actually clearer than some guy talking with a terrible accent.

      Although re-synched can also be great if it is not your own language... I learned to understand german pretty well by watching an our of StarTrek each day.

      Jeroen

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  5. Halo 2 in French? by jcostantino · · Score: 4, Funny

    So were all of the people who downloaded early release copies of Halo 2 in French actually learning instead of just stealing? Sacre blu!!

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  6. Children learn English this way now by nekosej · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In small European countries which don't benefit from having games translated into the local language, the children play them in English, and as a result, pick up quite a bit of written language. I've seen this in the Czech Republic, and found it amazing that a ten year old could understand so much. That said, it does little for spoken language.

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    1. Re:Children learn English this way now by NardofDoom · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I spent a week living with a family in Denmark. All three of their kids knew enough english to have a conversation with me. Even the five year-old who was taught english in pre-school and exposed to English-language movies, TV shows and books.

      The 10 and 13 year-olds could also speak German and French. Needless to say I felt like a stupid/ethnocentric American the whole week.

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  7. Traditional method: by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 5, Funny


    Learn English from Beatles songs.
    Learn French from Asterix comics.
    Learn Italian from music scores.
    Learn Japanese from Arcade games.
    Learn German from pr0n videos.

  8. How about some cons? by Anarrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think the Sims could provide a sufficient language portion that would allow anyone to get by. Most Sims events occur within the house, when any foreign language use would be required mostly outside of it in public places, which the Sims wouldn't cover.

    In addition to that, the Sims would not really provide any kind of advancement since the progression in the storyline does not imply progression in the complexity of the language. As a result the gamer would dive right into the same language level as he will be playing from that point on. Language is difficult to learn when there is no sense of accomplishment and progression which can't exist in a paceless learning.

    Lastly, the Sims is quite an addictive game (speaking from experience) and encouraging that from an educational standpoint is kind of like encouraging smoking because its cool while disregarding its health implications (a slight exageration but you get the point).

  9. Learning by Tech Immersion by justinstreufert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm trying to learn Japanese, and I'm doing something similar to what this guy describes in the second half of the article. After learning the kana (Japan's phonetic "alphabets"), I switched my iPod into Japanese.

    Of course I can get around most menus without reading at all, since I knew where everything was by heart. However if I go into Browse or Settings, I have to translate. :) Unfortunately it doesn't give me much more than phonetic reading practice, since most of the words used on the iPod are actually on loan from English. Example: "purei-risuto" (Japanese fudges out the U's, making it sort of "pray-rist"). HMM, I wonder what that could possibly be....

    Setting my computer's main language to Japanese could be next... but I think that will be a way bigger challenge.

    Indicentally, I am also using the Pimsleur course this guy recommends. I'm on level 1 lesson 21, and so far it has been great. My friends' eyes bug out when I start speaking Japanese to them. Now if only I had some Japanese friends to practice on...:P

    Justin

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  10. Maybe new for Americans by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While this "concept" might be new to alot of Americans, alot of Europeans, Asians and whoever have used this to aqcuire English and maybe another language.

    For instance, every child in Belgium is accostumed to read subtitles with some cartoons. (lately it seems they started dubbing cartoons for the younger children though. I remember being 8 watching He-man or Ji-Joe with subs.) Cause we don't "dub" (I personally find it really annoying in German dubbed movies, it just doesn't feel right.) And think about all the "imported" series, games, movies, and what not. They are all subtitled or even aren't (games and such). So teens overhere have a very good understanding about English (unless they are just into RAP and R&B music :P) cause they pick it up while being entertained.

    My German knowledge mostly came from watching German childrens programs, and later German books or even comics as well.

    I think it's super to be educated while playing, without ruining the fun of the game; Pick something up while you're entertaining yourself, it's not like you were going to pick up a book and study a language instead. But it seems supercool to go into a foreign country, and notice you actually understand some things and eventually will be able to communicate in a language not your own, as a result of playing a game you like which was going to be "dead time" anyhow.

    They could expand this further, beyond just "language".

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