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The Sun Misfires Against Disney Over Swear in Game

Anonymous Coward writes "UK paper The Sun published an article about a father who purchased a recent Gameboy title from Disney for his daughter. They were horrified that the credits of the game contained the F-Word and he immediately contacted the paper. The Sun published the article without researching the fact that this was a pirate cartridge based off of the cracked version of this game released. Oops!"

110 comments

  1. The Sun... by Uber+Banker · · Score: 3, Funny

    has a knee jerk reaction without thinking?! Only 1 in today's issue?!

  2. wait... by adam+mcmaster · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...are you telling me The Sun is not a reliable source of factual reporting?

    1. Re:wait... by Goyuix · · Score: 5, Informative

      For all those who may not know, The Sun is a British TABLOID - and as such is often publishing material in that rather dark shade of gray... Big surprise they didn't get it right.

      The more interesting story to me would be to follow-up with the father who purchased the Gameboy and cartridge, and find out where he purchased the goods. I mean come on, if you are really concerned about your kids why are you buying something from a less than reputable source. Is there even a story if he bought it off some street vendor?

    2. Re:wait... by bhima · · Score: 1

      It is! I read page 3 religiously!

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    3. Re:wait... by SewersOfRivendell · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's better than that, The Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch. You know, the guy who owns Fox? Fox News? Why this surprises anyone is beyond me...

    4. Re:wait... by Lewisham · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because he also holds The Times, my favourite quality broadsheet, oft voted Newspaper of the Year? If I remember correctly, they came out for Labour, not the Conservatives, last General Election.

      Murdoch holds what he can. He doesn't care what it reports, as long as it sells. To compare Fox News to The Times or even The Sun is unfair.

    5. Re:wait... by hey! · · Score: 1

      And isn't the Sun the family newspaper that puts topless girls inside the front cover?

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    6. Re:wait... by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

      Thank you for being a voice of reason.

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    7. Re:wait... by noahbagels · · Score: 1, Troll

      WTF does Rupert Murdoch or Fox have to do with it?

      A crappy article about a video game in a UK tabloid, and all of a sudden let's bash the guy who owns the most non-left-biased piece of mainstream US media... Hmmm, a bit sore about the election are we?

      Just because you may have a left-bias which leads you to agree with NPR and the UN does not automagically make anything to the right of you bad or bash-worthy.

      If you have anything specific to say (i.e. if you know of Murdoch owned stations doing specific things related to *this* story) please - by all means, bring it on. This is like saying: Wow - Britney sucks, and the RIAA ownz Britney, but wait - the RIAA also ownz U2, so U2 sucks too, but only because I don't like them, and Michael Moore told me not to like them, but I can't think for myself so I'll just hate them.

      Grow up. If you have a beef with someone or some corporation, spell it out - get a blog or something. Like I wrote: WTF does Fox News have to do with this british tabloid & a pirated video game? NOTHING.

    8. Re:wait... by LittleBigLui · · Score: 1

      WTF is wrong with topless girls? Inhowfar are they "anti-family"?

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    9. Re:wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I've seen people that agree with Fox News, and that's cool, but you're officially the first Fox News Fanboy I've seen. Congrats.

      Furthermore, you realize that not everyone who disagrees with Fox News is a die-hard liberal, and that not every liberal is a Michael Moore-quoting, UN-supporting, NPR-listening copy of your preconceived notion, right?

    10. Re:wait... by denan · · Score: 1

      Isnt that the same network that is calling the dutch "babykillers"? I saw a story on the dutch news last night that fox news and other news sources where reporting that in the netherlands baby's are killed because they are missing a few fingers. Sometimes i wonder if the American's believe their newssources. I hope not :P

    11. Re:wait... by rcs1000 · · Score: 1

      Except, of course, that the Times is no longer a broadsheet.

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    12. Re:wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Because he also holds The Times, my favourite quality broadsheet, oft voted Newspaper of the Year? If I remember correctly, they came out for Labour, not the Conservatives, last General Election.

      1. The Times is now a tabloid. They discontinued the broadsheet edition a month or so ago. The only major pure broadsheet left is the Guardian (who are equally unbalanced in the other direction).
      2. Coming out for Labour means nothing: Labour is the party of big business now, and the Tories are a bunch of gibbering kneejerk would-be populists.
      3. Wake me up when a Murdoch publication comes out in favour of anybody
      4. left of centre...
    13. Re:wait... by True+Vox · · Score: 1

      Well, I'd say a slight differance is that the RIAA doesn't tell U2 what the hell they can right. AFAIK, what Murdoch doesn't like (as interpreted by his lower level flunkeys), doesn't go out. And as for left biased media, if I recall, I think that republicans got WAY more airtime during the the 2000 election. I haven't heard stats on the 2004 election.

      And considering all the acusations of ballot fakeing, non-counted votes, and minority intimidation, I might be able to see how some are still sore. :D

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    14. Re:wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the most non-left-biased piece of mainstream US media

      That's a nice way of putting it. Let's also start describing Hitler as "the most non-pro-Semitic world leader of the 20th century!"

      Or we could call a spade a spade and admit that most mainstream US media is bang on centre, Fox is right-biased, and papers like the New York Times are left-biased. But of course people like you are too busy pointing out the specks in CNN's eye to be able to see the logs in your own, so you will doubtless continue to blather about everything to your left being "biased".

    15. Re:wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be American. Here in Europe we recognise that sex is a fact of life and that breasts are just a bit of anatomy, the sight of which is not actually going to destroy the lives of kids who, face it, are either going to be growing their own or fondling the girl next door's within a decade anyway. (Unless they're homosexual - considered a perfectly natural state of affairs in countries more enlightened than the USA - in which case either they won't care or they'll be doing both.)

    16. Re:wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coming out for Labour means nothing: Labour is the party of big business now, and the Tories are a bunch of gibbering kneejerk would-be populists.

      Exactly. Thatcher said at some point that she felt Blair was closer to her ideologically than most people in the British political spectrum.

    17. Re:wait... by Aardpig · · Score: 1

      Because he also holds The Times, my favourite quality broadsheet, oft voted Newspaper of the Year? If I remember correctly, they came out for Labour, not the Conservatives, last General Election.

      Explain this one to me, then: every single paper owned by Murdoch, worldwide, came out in favour of the Iraq war. If you think he doesn't tell them what to print, then you've got your head firmly planted up your arse.

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    18. Re:wait... by Lewisham · · Score: 1

      Labour v2.0 == Conservatives v1.0 is for another debate, but I won't deny it :)

    19. Re:wait... by scribblej · · Score: 1

      Uh... Rupert Murdoch owns The Sun.

      So WTF does Fox News have to do with it? Not much, directly. But Rupert Murdoch sure does.

      And you got modded informative? Hell.

  3. That's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Based on this one incident from a single newspaper, I will hereby distrust and boycott all traditional "media" and instead rely solely on the blogosphere and wikipyramid for my news.

    Blogs are never wrong; if they are, they get TrackBacked and corrected. Wikis are never wrong; if they are, they get edited.

    1. Re:That's it. by DarKnyht · · Score: 1

      Yes that is true, they get TrackBacked and corrected or edited until they fit the view of those reading.

      I believe Slashdot covered the problems that happen in Wikis, and I think I can safely say that to some extent this also happens in blogs.

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  4. Did he know? by Some+guy+named+Chris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article is rather vague, but I would be interested in whether the man knew the game he had purchased was a bootleg.

    1. Re:Did he know? by Collision891 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I doubt he would knowingly buy his little kids bootleg games for christmas, and then go complain about them to the media.

    2. Re:Did he know? by fluffybacon · · Score: 2, Funny
      I doubt he would knowingly buy his little kids bootleg games for christmas, and then go complain about them to the media.
      Chavs, you can never tell what they'll do next.
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    3. Re:Did he know? by Ayaress · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From the picture in the Sun article, I don't think he knew it was. The cartridge looks like fifty other GBA games I have sitting around, and it has a very legitamate-looking sticker on it. It's obviously an otherwise good fake made with a crappy unclean ROM downloaded off the internet complete with the cracker intro (Where the "fuck off and die" bit came from).

      There are a couple ways the father could have gotten it:
      1. Bought it off ebay or otherwise from a non-vendor. Worse yet, he could have bought it from one of those carts that get set up in malls and vanish after three days. There was a strange event in the mall near me where a vender cart like that sold dozens of remote control cars with the electronics gutted out of them, and then vanished. Whatever the conditions, if this is how he got it, he's at best foolish (for not realizing it's a fake) and at worst a fool (for buying from shady vendors).

      2. Somebody sold the fakes to stores as used. I've heard of it happening at the EB near me once or twice. A good fake can pass as legit to a visual inspection, and most places don't take the time to actually run the game. In this case, it's not the guy's fault for buying it, but he still should have seen it was fake and complained to the store. From what the intro text said, it should be pretty clear. I guess he's one of those people that can look at a page of text, and only see the word "fuck" in the middle of the page and nothing else.

    4. Re:Did he know? by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

      A variant of 1) would be from a car boot sale. The last time I went to one I saw a couple of stands with dodgy goods, including a large number of pirate GBA games. The most obvious sign they were dodgy was that the boxes were all shiny and glossy, not the matt boxes Nintendo used. He probably picked up a DVD of the latest film that's not out on DVD yet as well with his game.

      I think they were also US games, but you have to be anal retentive to know the difference between US and EU Gameboy boxes, they're quite similar. ;-)

      It might've been a market stall instead of course, ot the legendary "out of the back of a van".

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    5. Re:Did he know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you are missing the point. The Sun is a tabloid newspaper. The same class of paper which reports on Elvis signtings and Aliens. They're just glad that someone stood up and said Disney sells videogames laced with foul language to kids. Not only did they get to link the biggest childrens centered media empire to contirbuting to the deliquincy of a minor, but they got to bash videogames as well. Pretty good for one article.

    6. Re:Did he know? by jt007 · · Score: 1

      I think you are exaggerating slightly there to say they report on "Elvis sightings and Aliens", the papers you are looking for there are the Daily Sport and the Sunday Sport.

      For anyone that doesn't know, the Sunday Sport has in the past reported amongst other things about a red double decker bus being found on the Moon!

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  5. For non-Brits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Sun is a Rupert Murdoch-owned right-wing tabloid. It's full of hate-bait such as demonising immigrants and is targeted at the "lowest common denominator" of the UK population. Take it about as seriously as the Weekly World News.

    1. Re:For non-Brits by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 1

      Take it about as seriously as the Weekly World News.

      Except it has one of the mostly widely distrubuted newspaper in the UK, a bit like the National Enquirer here in the States...

      Be scared...

    2. Re:For non-Brits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      widely distrubuted newspaper in the UK, a bit like the National Enquirer here in the States

      Except the National Enquirer doesn't have the Page 3 girls.

    3. Re:For non-Brits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it does.

      Or at least it did once.

    4. Re:For non-Brits by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 1

      Except the National Enquirer doesn't have the Page 3 girls.

      There's no nipples, but there are sometimes plenty of pictures of scantily clad women. Not that I've read it since the 80s ...

    5. Re:For non-Brits by British · · Score: 1

      What's great about The Sun is you can find a discarded copy anywhere(trains, bars, etc). Of course I check out the boobie section, then the 200000 reports on David Beckham.

    6. Re:For non-Brits by hunterx11 · · Score: 2, Informative

      In fact it has the highest circulation of any daily English-language newspaper in the world.

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    7. Re:For non-Brits by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 1

      The best comparison to it here in the states in terms of wild sensationalism and terrible reporting would be the New York Post. Which is also a News Corp. Production. Hmmmm...

    8. Re:For non-Brits by Satan's+Bumgut · · Score: 1

      It's also the best selling paper in the UK!

    9. Re:For non-Brits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could quite happily see the entire editorial staff of The Sun horse-whipped in the street.
      I think, as a british tax-payer, it's the least I deserve.

  6. obligatory. by th3space · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    BAAAAAZING!

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  7. In other news by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, the Sun's "Page 3 Girl" has FAKE BOOBS and Sun didn't mention it anywhere in their paper.

    Shocking!

  8. Re:This proves my theory.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must be the poor economy there.

  9. Hope they prosecute this loser... by Mr.+Bendy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously, I hope FACT or someone takes this guy to the cleaners. Why not take the game back to the 'shop' where he got it, or to Trading Standards (UK retail 'police'). Instead he tries to take advantage of his daughter's discomfort and make some money off the Sun. Scum. The Sun is an example of everything wrong with British journalism. Low grade version of the Daily mail - a paper for Chavs everwhere.

    1. Re:Hope they prosecute this loser... by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1

      The Sun is an example of everything wrong with British journalism.

      No. The Sun is an example of everything whihc is wrong with Britian.

    2. Re:Hope they prosecute this loser... by tyndyll · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The Sun is an example of everything wrong with British journalism. Low grade version of the Daily mail - a paper for Chavs everwhere.

      Wow, Slashdot becoming Brit Centric!! For those that don't know Chavs are the delights regularly found around the shopping centres and car parks of Britain. Feel free to convert and report back on your local equivalent

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    3. Re:Hope they prosecute this loser... by Ayaress · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The Sun is an example of everything wrong with British journalism Nah, just journalism in general. They're just as bad over here. I'm waiting for the Saginaw News to print this story. They're pretty good at printing stories without researching it. Once, the DoE transported a steel assembly through Michigan that would eventually be used in a nuclear reactor. An unrevealed "someone" provided a "leaked DoE document" to the SN saying that the "radiation" from this material would kill "300 to 600 people" along its transport route, but that the DoE "considered that acceptably low." The truth was, it was just like the shitillion other tons of steel stuff that gets shipped through Michigan every day. It was going to go into a nuclear reactor, but it had never been exposed to nuclear material. The steel had been forged into the desired form up in the UP, loaded on a boat, transfered to a train, and then carried to who-knows-where out west to actually go into a nuclear reactor out there. Nobody was killed, although the article triggered a protest along the transport route (It wasn't the even the correct route, they ended up protesting about 150 tons of feed corn, if I remember right), in which several people were injured when they had to be forcably pulled away from the tracks by the police before the train spread them out over the next eight miles of railroad ties.

    4. Re:Hope they prosecute this loser... by jt007 · · Score: 1

      Yeah The Sun does that too, bugs the hell out of me when they can't be bothered with something and invent a story saying something like "An onlooker said" or "Our insider noted that.." or some such made up nonsense like that.

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  10. Good old Sun by Arch_Engie · · Score: 1

    So The Sun has once again got it wrong and decided to go with sensationalist drivel. Same as usual for the UK tabloids, but this isnt as bad as most of the stories it prints :) I guess he bought it from some guy down the pub or off a street corner for super cheap prices - what did he expect?

  11. educational by Fr05t · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey if his daughter already knew that fuck was a bad word she obviously didn't learn it from the game. Fuck I bet her father is a big fucking swearer and should have social services called on the fuck! I don't know what the fuck is wrong with the word fuck, it's not like it's fucking over used. If it's good enough for Jay it's fucking good enough for me.

    1. Re:educational by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fuck yeah, that's what I am talking about. The kid knew it was fucked up enough to point that shit out. Anyways here is the top portion of the game credits...

      Executive Producer: Richard Head
      Software Director: Oliver Clothesoff
      Marketing Director: Rob Midildo
      Lead Engineer: Cy Weezeformilk
      Lead Artist: Dean Biggins

  12. Fraudulent by theREALMcCoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wouldn't doubt it if the story of the dad and his daughter is fraudulent. Often, tabloids invent stories to bring attention to a real occurence.

    Maybe some Sun staffer bought a copy of the pirated game, and decided to make up a compelling story to go along with it. Because if you look at the picture, it looks like a real copy of Monster's, Inc.

    1. Re:Fraudulent by Mr.+Bendy · · Score: 0, Redundant

      You really reckon the Sun just 'made it up'? That would mean they lied? Surely not the Sun...

      Scum.

    2. Re:Fraudulent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're giving them too much credit.

      s/bought a copy/photoshopped a cover image/

    3. Re:Fraudulent by glowimperial · · Score: 1

      I wold imagine that a fraudulent copy of Monster's Inc. looks much like the real thing.

  13. I Don't Understand Something... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What's so bad about an "f" word? Is the word inherently evil? Is there any evidence of this word ever causing anyone harm? I'm betting the designation of this word as "offensive" is 100% arbitrary and ridiculous.

    1. Re:I Don't Understand Something... by Mr.+Bendy · · Score: 1

      Nothing. Its just a word. And its a word so far removed from its literal meaning as to have become totally part of the english language. What is really rich here is the The Sun advertising phone sex lines, Page 3 and its very own 'problem page' which is as nearly as explicit as anything you'll find in playboy etc. See the South Park movie for an excellent critique of societies hypocrisy when it comes to bad language vs. violence in the media.

    2. Re:I Don't Understand Something... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > What's so bad about an "f" word?

      It's not an "'f' word". It's "fuck".

    3. Re:I Don't Understand Something... by IndiJ · · Score: 0

      Actually, for a good critique of the foolishness behind profanity concerns, I would recommend the Penn & Teller: Bullshit! episode called Profanity before South Park. I imagine that, judging by the name of the show, their position won't come as a shock. South Park is funny and all, but if you want people to actually consider your point analytically, it helps if you don't have a singing and dancing log of shit on your show.

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    4. Re:I Don't Understand Something... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's so bad about nigger?
      What's so bad about wetback?
      What's so bad about gringo?
      What's so bad about fag?

      "After all, it's just a word!"

      (I agree, people shouldn't react "knee-jerk" to words. Sometimes, swear and offensive words have their place, if used in the right context.)

    5. Re:I Don't Understand Something... by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      It is called "Community Standards".
      I will try and use small words so you can understand. Some words hold negative meaning. They are considered ugly, rude, impolite, and generally unpleasant. Words like Nigger, Heb, and Spic are clearly meant to be hurtful. The "f" word is for many to be in that same category because it making what should be a private loving act into a crude term. Just as it is rude to show the soles of your feet to people in many middle eastern countries or for a woman to touch a man that she is not married to among strict orthodox Jews, in most western countries the use of the "f" word around children is considered rude. To use it show a lack of cultural sensitivity and to not understand why it is offensive is just dumb.

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    6. Re:I Don't Understand Something... by jlapier · · Score: 1

      What's so bad about an "f" word?

      Not a fucking thing.

    7. Re:I Don't Understand Something... by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      Words like Nigger ... are clearly meant to be hurtful.

      Absolutely untrue. Television can provide you with multiple examples of positive connotation. (Also, capitalizing non-proper nouns is an error).

      Just as it is rude to show the soles of your feet to people in many middle eastern countries or for a woman to touch a man that she is not married to among strict orthodox Jews,

      Grouping your position alongside a few religious wack-jobs doesn't win you any points.

      To use it show a lack of cultural sensitivity and to not understand why it is offensive is just dumb.

      That's an example of a circular argument: "Because the word is bad, people would be upset to hear it, so using it would make you bad".

      Sorry, but that kind of reasoning tells us NOTHING.

  14. Pots, kettles by fm6 · · Score: 4, Funny
    The Sun published the article without researching the fact that this was a pirate cartridge based off of the cracked version of this game released. Oops!
    Yeah, everybody on Slashdot always checks their facts before making a post!
    1. Re:Pots, kettles by Mr.+Bendy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not everyone on posting on Slahdot is a major UK newspaper, who should know better. Seriously, reading the full text of what was on that game, even the dumbest journo should have guessed that this may not be a legitimate copy. Scum the lot of them.

    2. Re:Pots, kettles by fm6 · · Score: 1
      Why should the reporter have guessed? Is he an expert on computer games? Does he even have a technical background? Probably not.

      It's not an impressive bit of journalism, and I gather that the Sun is not a top-rank newspaper. But this seems to be an honest mistake -- whereas most misinformation I see on Slashdot comes from plain old intellectual laziness. We're in no position to sneer.

    3. Re:Pots, kettles by Vengeance_au · · Score: 1

      I'd just be happy if everyone attached a page 3 girl to their posts before submitting :-)

    4. Re:Pots, kettles by fm6 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Since we don't have P3 Girls on our side of the Atlantic, I took the liberty of providing this link. In digging this up, I discovered that The Sun is published by Rupert Murdoch, who also gave us Fox News. So I guess it must pretty sleazy...

    5. Re:Pots, kettles by pieszynski · · Score: 1

      Difference here is that people pay cash for the sun which employs professional reporters, thus we should be able to expect proper fact checking. Slashdot is a free resource (to most i guess) written by its users. While professionalism here is nice to see and not infrequent it should not be expected. Oh, and the sun sucks, its the mouthpiece of people trying to pedestrianise ambition, entertain rather than inform ,promote boy bands, drunken thuggery and god damm soccer (the most boring sport in the world except baseball) and generally lower the tone of this sceptered isle ... ban it NOW but then i think everybody should be forced to read the guardian so perhaps i'm really no better

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    6. Re:Pots, kettles by fm6 · · Score: 1
      Sure, newspapers should be held to a higher standard that the rest of us. But how did that reporter fail to meet any reasonable standard? Even somebody with a technical background might have overlooked the possibility that a data cartridge wasn't actually made by the company shown on the label -- never mind somebody who wasn't familiar with the industry.

      Yeah, you can't expect non-reporters to do all the fact checking that pro are supposed to do. But I see Slashdotters routinely pass off their personal prejudices and fourth-hand info as objective fact. That, in its way, is much worse than a journalist not digging quite deep enough.

      I do get pissed when I see some technical ignoramus passing themselves off as a "high-tech journalist". But that's false advertising. The Sun reporter never pretended to be anything but an ordinary person reporting the facts to the best of his ability. (It might have helped if Disney had returned his phone calls.) We geeks know more about technology than 99% of humanity. But that's our obsession, not a kind of moral superiority.

    7. Re:Pots, kettles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (It might have helped if Disney had returned his phone calls.)

      Well the story did clearly say "did not return our calls last night" which, although it could be argued that they rang in the daytime and had not received a callback by the night, leads me to suspect they did the typical Murdoch-rag behaviour of ringing for a comment after close of business, so they could paint the company as a big bad demon by saying they didn't return the call.

      Or maybe they rang a cleaner employed by Disney's contractor's subcontractor, who obviously didn't return their call because he would have had no idea what they were talking about. Considering The Sun is one of Rupert Murdoch's rags, nothing would surprise me.

      Yeah, you can't expect non-reporters to do all the fact checking that pro are supposed to do.

      I don't expect any Murdoch publications to do any fact checking whatsoever, and most times most of them live up to this. I can't imagine this time is any different.

    8. Re:Pots, kettles by jt007 · · Score: 1

      Well, it is "top-rank" in as much as it is (depressingly) the best selling paper in the UK, but it is certainly not a top-drawer newspaper.

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    9. Re:Pots, kettles by fm6 · · Score: 1
      Well, they certainly have more topless females than any newspaper in the U.S.!

      But even if they were the worst newspaper in the world (I believe that's actually the Palo Alto Times Tribune, which once printed a Burger King press release as if it were wire copy), it'd be beside the point. You read that article, and you see a reasonably competent bit of journalism. Sneering at it because its missing a fact Slashdotters might have thought to look for is hypocritical, given our own sloppy record with keeping our facts straight.

    10. Re:Pots, kettles by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1
      Even somebody with a technical background might have overlooked the possibility that a data cartridge wasn't actually made by the company shown on the label

      Wrong. It was clearly labeled as an unauthorized release. Only a total idiot could've read the following and thought it had anything to do with Disney Inc:
      1. MODE 7 BRINGS YOU ::: MONSTERS INC. (C) THQ ::: IT's BEEN AWHILE since OUR last RELEASE, but WE'RE still AROUND.. STAY tuned FOR more! - REMEMBER true SCENERS DON'T care ABOUT CRC'S AND untouched DUMPS, those THAT do
      2. CAN FUCK off and DIE! - OUR respect TO THE following: CAPITAL . illusion . aggression . ANTHROX . sneakers . SWAT . menace . EURASIA . VENOM . lightforce . OK! THAT'S all FOR now, SEE you IN THE next ONE (DO you GUYS even READ this FAR?)


      And while it's very possible that a person might not have read that paragraph at all, if that were the case, then he'd never see the offending word to complain about.

      (Quoted text changed to mixed-case to avoid lame filter)
  15. sounds a lot like the copy of Doom 2 for GBA ... by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

    ... that I purchased from an Ebay seller, proudly published by 'Nintondo'.

  16. Crime by Taulin · · Score: 4, Funny

    The real crime in this whole story is that someone bought a Monsters Inc. game for their child. *shiver*

    1. Re:Crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding. When the story broke, I dug out the game rom and emulator. Yep, sure enough, there's the word 'fuck', followed shortly by me repeating it in the exclamation "This game is fucking terrible."

    2. Re:Crime by beerman2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What about the fact that some one actual took the time to create a cracked version of the game!

    3. Re:Crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      THQ. Nuff said.

  17. Re:Fraudulent, I doubt it by Puggs · · Score: 2, Interesting
    On the thread over at fark.com, there is a pic of a 2nd hand cartridge from ebay and the image from the article. theres clearly a difference in the label.

    Although as this is The Sun, I wouldnt put it past them to make articles up...

  18. Re:Fraudulent, I doubt it by Txiasaeia · · Score: 1

    How would the father know it's a fake if he only purchased one of them?

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    Condemnant quod non intellegunt.
  19. 'Off of' is never correct! Get it right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not "off of", but "on", as in "based on ..."

    Is this what journalism comes to, when grammar dies?

    1. Re:'Off of' is never correct! Get it right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take the lid on the pot yourself, I'm going to take it off of it.

  20. Everyone knows the Sun is worthless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you believe they have NEVER written a story about Bat Boy! He's still on the lose, and they've never warned the public. The Weekly World News will keep me safe.

    1. Re:Everyone knows the Sun is worthless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the loose? Last I heard, Bad Boy had joined the army to fight in Iraq. Oh, and he thinks the Bush twins are hot.

  21. You guys are oblivious... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    ... about how dangerous this individual is.

    The darling of the US right, Tony Blair, shamlessly takes his clues from Murdoch, who gloats publicly about the power and influence his tabloid has (i.e. herding the sheep).

    That you decide to defend this individual and his discredited "news" empire (look, there is right wing media that is respectable, Fox is not) says a bit about the sorry wasteland that is US politics.

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    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
  22. Actually surprised... by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

    I'm going to go against the grain of the comments being posted here and confess that I am actually surprised by this.

    The Sun is a low-brow "red top" British tabloid, as other posters have pointed out. However, contrary to what has been stated above, it doesn't have any traditional political affiliation, unlike the broadsheets, such as the Guardian (left wing) and the Telegraph (right wing). In the 1992 election, it famously supported the Conservatives ("It was the Sun what won it") and then in 1997 and 2002 supported Labour. Its stories have a heavy preponderance towards sports-personalities, soap operas and sex. On a political scale, it's tempting to see the Sun as an important opinion former, due to its vast readership, but I don't think this is really true; what the Sun is good at is reflecting and reinforcing existing public opinion. The Sun's readership like to be told what they already know, rather than having their views challenged.

    This is all leading up to why this particular episode surprises me. Contrary to what you may think and contrary to my own view of the paper, Sun journalists are among the cleverest in the business. They routinely have to compress major news stories into one or two paragraphs (where a broadsheet would take multiple pages) to give the pertinent facts to an audience who would rather be looking at the pictures. A lot of senior officials and businessmen actually insist on having clippings from the Sun included in their morning press summary because it's so good at encapsulating a story like this. This is an art-form in itself. Moreover, they have to deal with the usually-sordid matter of what the British public is really thinking... without actually crossing any legal boundaries. Compared to the other tabloid's in the UK, they actually seem to be immensely successful in this, which makes today's lapse (which presumably opens the door for Disney to bring an iron-clad case against them) all the more shocking.

    The thinking behind it is quite clear: the intellectually challenged portion of the British population doesn't trust computer games. Nor do they trust big corporations like Disney, particularly when these corporations market straight to their children. A story that panders to fears about both of these is obviously going to go down well. It's just surprising that they didn't do the usual legal waterproofing.

    1. Re:Actually surprised... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you say is true, but while the Sun has no party affiliation it is and has always been profoundly right-wing. The fact they backed Labour in 97 and 02 is surely a reflection of the right-wing values espoused by that party in recent years, rather than an adjustment of the paper's traditional political leanings.

    2. Re:Actually surprised... by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      Not true at all. The Sun is a long way from being "genuinely" right wing in its ideology. It's frequently xenophobic and it has a harsh attitude on law and order issues, but this is not inherantly right wing.

      On many issues, the Sun is quite far-left. It tends to play with anti-Americanism and anti-corporatism on a regular basis. This basically reflects the confused and self-destructive nature of much of the UK's mainstream population. There's a hankering for the far-left economic policies which brought the UK to its knees by the end of the 70s, tied up with a longing for harsh social values. This could be equated with Communism perhaps more easily than Facism.

      The Daily Mail is a more traditional low-brow right-wing newspaper. It has the well-known stance on law-and-order, as well as its obsession with asylum seekers, but again, these are not necessarily exclusive to the right wing. However, the Mail *does* have a right-wing attitude towards economic issues. It's anti-trade-unions, anti-social-security and obsessed with house prices. This reflects the fact that the Mail is traditionally the newspaper of (in British terms), the poorly-educated but economically self-sufficient lower middle classes.

      But please, don't equate "nasty" with "right wing". Both left and right contribute their fare share of nutters, rabid ideologues, hatemongers and genuinely dangerous individuals.

  23. Re:Fraudulent, I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How would the father know it's a fake if he only purchased one of them?

    Some might considere the presence of the word "fuck" in the intro to a Disney game a clue.

  24. Re:Fraudulent, I doubt it by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

    'cause it's "Licensed by Nintondo"?

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    Justice is the sheep getting arrested while an impartial judge declares the vote void.
  25. What really is the point? by IndiJ · · Score: 0

    While there's no doubt that the Sun was entirely at fault here for their poor handling of the affair, it's not hard to see how they could believe that Disney let a swear word slip by. Even ignoring simple accidents like the infamous penis-columns on the Little Mermaid artwork and debatably subjective interpretations like the hidden word "SEX" in the Lion King, there have been a number of cases where "offensive material" appeared in Disney films.

    For instance, they had to change the lyrics to the Aladdin title song because Arab-American groups complained. Someone snuck in shots of Baby Herman flipping the bird, and a topless woman in The Rescuers.

    How many consumers in western nations are aware that cartridges can be forged? (Software is one thing, CD's/DVD's also, but cartridges?) Given the cutthroat pace of modern media, it's hardly surprising that the Sun rushed to print with this one, once making that assumption.

    I think the real story here is not that the Sun screwed up. I think the real story lies in finding out where that pirated game came from, and more importantly, how many pirated cartridges are out there. One would hope the Sun would lead the charge on this investigation.

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    It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.
    1. Re:What really is the point? by Audigy · · Score: 1

      A simple search on eBay for any popular GBA title will reveal about 80% bootlegs.

      Furthermore, Disney probably wouldn't have any comment on the GBA version of Monsters, Inc. because THQ created it.

      If nothing else, after the 'publicity' - if I were the game creator or publisher, I would send this guy and his kid a free authentic copy of the game.

      More public awareness needs to be made about pirated GBA carts. They're everywhere.

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    2. Re:What really is the point? by ThePolkapunk · · Score: 1

      "If nothing else, after the 'publicity' - if I were the game creator or publisher, I would send this guy and his kid a free authentic copy of the game."

      Oh yeah, that's brilliant, give everyone who illegally obtains a game a free copy of a legal version. I can just see the posts over the net:

      "I downloaded the French version of Halo 2 before it came out, and now I can't play on XBOX Live. Give me a free copy!"

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      Dear diary: Today I stuffed some dolls full of dead rats I put in the blender.
    3. Re:What really is the point? by Audigy · · Score: 1

      The difference is that supposedly the fellow who bought the game thought he was getting it from a reputable source.

      Warez kiddies who grabs copies of the latest and greatest XBox games from Usenet know damn well that they're getting pirated copies, and would know better than to take their tales of woe to a tabloid.

      I'm 95% certain that we'll never hear a proper followup to this story, including what the purchaser thought he was purchasing, so it doesn't really matter at this point. Still damn funny though.

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    4. Re:What really is the point? by IndiJ · · Score: 0
      More public awareness needs to be made about pirated GBA carts. They're everywhere.

      I agree, that was the point I was making. Hard core gamers may be aware that there are a lot of fakes out there, but even they may be fooled (I probably would have been by that cart, until I turned it on). And what about when the gamer is not the one buying the game?

      Buying from eBay is always risky, and if you don't bother to check whether or not the cart is real that's really your own fault for being a dumbass. But how many people are wary about places like Electronics Boutique or Microplay? Did you examine the last used cart you bought from EB? They don't even show it to you at the one near my place - you just take the box off the display rack, and they put the game in the box and the box in the bag while they ring it up.

      And do you really trust a place like EB to do the right thing and be vigilant on behalf of the consumer?

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      It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.
    5. Re:What really is the point? by jt007 · · Score: 1

      The article doesn't state where he bought it from, could have been from a mate down the pub or a car boot sale, who knows?

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      I never apologise, I'm sorry but that's just the way I am - Homer
    6. Re:What really is the point? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, Disney probably wouldn't have any comment on the GBA version of Monsters, Inc. because THQ created it.

      Wrong. Disney, like most serious character-franchise corporations, is highly involved in approving the details of anything they authorize.

      Disney would, at minimum, respond with a boilerplate promise to "Investigate very seriously every allegation of misconduct by our licensees". That's just part of "protecting the brand"!

      Disney probably wouldn't have any comment on the GBA version of Monsters, Inc.

      Disney might plausibly have no comment because they didn't create Monsters, Inc either- that was all Pixar. But, I don't know if Disney bought the copyright or not.

  26. Washington Post. by bludstone · · Score: 1

    The washington post has this daily free mini-newspaper called "Metro." This news bit was on THE COVER of the paper this morning.

    The cover.

    No, really. Its on the bottom. I laughed.

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  27. Story doesn't add up by rhpot1991 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have a problem with the facts (or lack there of) in the original article.

    1. It just doesn't make sense to buy 2 gba's and 1 game, even if the kids share the game you always have an idle gba
    2. Why doesn't the guy ever say where the game came from, is he hiding something, or did they not include that part in the script they gave him?
    3. Why on earth does that little girl know the f word already, or was that in the script too?

    Now, I know that I can buy monster's inc. and flash the cart with whatever I want and take it back to EB, and more than likely they would not notice. Then someone would eventually buy it as an used game, but if this was the case, why wasn't a store mentioned? So I conclude that either this guy bought the games from a shady source (because he was too cheap to buy the real deal, or too stupid to understand that there may be a difference) or that the story is entirely made up.

    1. Re:Story doesn't add up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did you get your mask-programmed ROM reflasher? I want one!

  28. Re:Fraudulent, I doubt it by Txiasaeia · · Score: 1

    That's not what I'm saying. He buys the game. It looks legit. What reason would he have to assume that it's a fake game if he had no way to compare the cart to the real cartridge?

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    Condemnant quod non intellegunt.
  29. Re:Fraudulent, I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pfft. I know a genuine Panaphonics when I see it. And look, there's Magnetbox and Sorny.

  30. How I learned the word c**t by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

    This story rang some bells for me. Okay, the story is kinda screwy, but this is a nice one anyway.

    Back in 1990 when I was a wee lad, I was playing with a cover disk (5.25"!) what came with a PC magazine. It had a text adventure on it, so I installed it and began to play. It got kinda hard though, so I decided to try and hack through the data files that came with the game to get some ideas. Well, I looked through the files and saw the word C**T written there as one of the keywords. I went to the game and typed it in and it gave me some sort of rebuke.

    I went and asked my parents, quite matter of factly, "What does c**t mean?" As you can imagine, they weren't so impressed, although they weren't mad. Anyway, I guess my dad complained to the magazine, and as a gesture of good will they sent me a copy of the then very brand new Wing Commander. Score!

    And I never did find out what the word meant till several years after that..

    1. Re:How I learned the word c**t by Scorchio · · Score: 1

      Good grief... going by this story, which describes how text adventures handled swear words, you could have stumbled across a gold mine!

    2. Re:How I learned the word c**t by jt007 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of my neice, who upon seeing my new FCUK (French Connection UK) t-shirt on Christmas Day last year, upon misreading it proudly declared "Fuck" to the surrounding family at the dinner table.
      Man, that was an awkward moment if ever there was one!

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      I never apologise, I'm sorry but that's just the way I am - Homer