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Rational Atlantic Eclipse Based Solutions

An anonymous reader writes "The following articles highlight major enhancements to the core Rational software solutions. These solutions, code-named Atlantic, help unify development team members on the open Eclipse framework and more tightly link business, development, and operations organizations."

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  1. Anonymous...Rational employee by gtt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sounds like some marketing droid sent in a press release anonymously.

  2. The article is pretty content-free by winkydink · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I did RTFA, I'm familiar with Rational's product line, but I'm not sure what exactly this is supposed to do? As many others have pointed, this looks a lot more like maketing-babble than anything useful.

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    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

  3. Eclipse needs affordable UML plugin by mikech@rbsgi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Speaking of Rational software, Rose, etc. Despite the fact that the Eclipse already maintains all of the meta-data needed to produce a UML model, no one has produced a free or affordable ( $200 for single-user license) UML plugin that supports reverse engineering of source code into the model. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    1. Re:Eclipse needs affordable UML plugin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      There is plug-in called Eclipse Modeling Framework ( http://www.eclipse.org/emf). Not sure exactly how it works, since I don't use it directly -- it's a prereq for IBM Java/Com bridge (http://alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/dtjcb) which I do use.

  4. I agree - Rational products suck. by xwin · · Score: 4, Interesting
    During my software development carier which is not particularly long, ~15 years, I have used 4 Rational's products. In fact I am using one today. I can attest to the fact that all of their products are pretty bad. At least all products that I used. This was a fact 6 years ago and this is a fact today. Whenever company is using Rational's software, engineers always will have conversations at lunch about how bad that software is and who is the idiot that started using it in the first place.

    Personally I would stay away from their software if at all possible. It has bad UI, it is memory hog, and documentation is piss poor. When IBM gobbled up Rational it did not improove the situation.
    I was listening to Scott Meyers once. You know, the guy who wrote Effective XXX series. He addmitted that he could not code. And that is OK, he told us. "It is not my job, my job is to teach you to code". He is probably right, considering that his books are pretty good in my opinion. Rational has the same thing going only their software sucks.
    I would think that the company, who employed people like Grady Booch could make half way decent software.

  5. Throwing thousands of dollars down the drain... by BigTimOBrien · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ugh, I just witnessed an organization purchase a copy of Rational Rose XDE only to just watch it sit on the shelf for a few months. This was the second time this has happened to me. Rational products are over-priced for what they deliver, and the rational unified process is a consultant magnet.

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    ------ Tim O'Brien
  6. Re:Sorry, I'd take collabnet over rational any day by grimarr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org/) does many of those things. It seems to be focused on Java projects, but it might work with other languages also.

    I haven't used it, although I plan to look at it a bit someday.