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Xfce 4.2.0 Released
kelnos copies and pastes: "The Xfce Team is pleased to announce the availability of Xfce 4.2.0, the next major version of the Xfce Desktop Environment and Development Framework for Unix and Unix-like platforms. Xfce 4.2.0 can be downloaded here. Xfce 4.2.0 includes new applications like a session manager and an application finder, a new and beautiful icon theme, support for bleeding-edge features (like the X.org Composite extension), usability and performance improvements, better support for multihead desktops, new and updated translations, additional themes, and various other improvements over the previous stable releases. See this page for a complete list of changes between Xfce 4.0 and Xfce 4.2. Furthermore, Xfce 4.2 is the first desktop environment to ship with an easy-to-use and platform-independent graphical installation wizard, which takes care of compiling and installing Xfce on your system. Visit the os-cillation installers website for download links and instructions. If you want to try Xfce 4.2.0 first, without installing anything on your system, you might want to try the Xfce Live Demo 0.2, provided by os-cillation, to discover the power and efficiency of Xfce."
here's the torrent of it
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Looks really nice from the screenshots. Something between Gnome and KDE (but more Gnome like) Thanks to the developers, I'll give it a try if I get it to run on my PPC Ubuntu :-)
You could try enlightenment, its not exactly "lightweight" but it could serve that purpose and doesn't have many external dependencies. But really, there is no point of running X without either Gtk or Qt as most apps use one of those.
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Try Blackbox or one of its relations (fluxbox, etc). I don't know what you mean by "modern", but they're small, efficient window managers that don't do anything but manage windows.
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
Are there any good WMs which don't have any gtk+ or Qt dependencies?
fluxbox
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Yeah... I'm also still using WindowMaker, and it's great, the only thing that I don't like is the lack of UTF-8 support...
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For any decent-sized drive (128MB and up) on any computer built within the past ten years, XFCE would be fine.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
I know what you're talking about. It's not your distro. The difference is obvious when you compare something like Fluxbox (or Windows!) to Gnome or KDE. In Flux the redraw is basically instantaneous, whereas KDE and Gnome and others there is definitely a noticible redraw. P.S. I use KDE. I've just learned to accept it.
It's a classic. Reposted countless times on Slashdot and other websites since it's first appearance in 1998. The poster had enough sense to change the claimed Mac model from 8600/300 to G5, which is better than your average canned post troll can do, but it's still a six-year-old repost.
(see http://www.kottke.org/98/11/ for a nearly word-for-word identical post made 6 years ago)
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Actually, it more closely resembles C D E than OS X. And CDE definately predates OS X.
You could try Ion 2 (http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/) - no GTK+ or Qt dependencies.
I started using it after I got tired of the mainstream window managers, fluxbox included.
Using 4.2 over 4.0, I have noticed no speed difference during normal use, although #xfce say that it should be faster.
However, it is _much_ (several times) slower to load (they have a splash engine now). However, I don't do this very often, so that doesn't really matter.
Well in the case of KDE, flickering problems were caused by multiple repaints when only one was actually necessary.
Yes. Settings Manager -> Window Manager -> Focus -> Automatically give focus to newly created windows is what I believe you are looking for.
--For the easily infuriated, here is the direct link to the Debian package repository for XFCE 4:
http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/
--For the impatient:
deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
--I spent like 10 minutes going round the bend with their stupid circular links to find that!!
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== WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
Compile a new kernel with
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
See if that helps. Also try enabling mmio for your networking. X does a lot of its shit over Unix domain sockets (the default), or TCP (if you enable it). Both are slow. Using memory-mapped io for your socket communications can speed things up.
I am quite certain that from version .90, windowmaker has utf-8 support and antialiasing.
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Tre enabling the XComposite and XDamage. They have been designed to reduce the problem that you are experiencing.
Basically the problem is that X, your WM, and your program run (and therefore redraw) during different timeslots. In case of GNOME and KDE, they may call other servers out of process before doing the drawing. This becomes really noticable when you move windows, or windows appear.
XDamage and XComposite should solve the problem when you move the windows, as only the buffer actually moves, and no redraws are issued. I am not sure if it will help you get more smooth menues.
And no, XComposite is not enabled by default, because it is beta code, and some applications can behave funny.
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Seriously, give it a whirl, specially if you're unenchanted with KDE/GNOME's last offerings or have older hardware and want to run something better looking than Fluxbox. XFCE has got an increased number of users since version 4, and with good reason. It's great.
The 4.2 version fixes a number of issues with the previous 4.x ones - namely, session management, better configuration options and interface polish, specially in stuff like the taskbar and the panel. The only thing i imagine lacking from XFCE are desktop icons, and they're scheduled for a future version.
That, and it's slow as fuck unless you have hardware acceleration. (Add Option "RenderAccel" "True" to the device section of xorg.conf if you have an nvidia card with the nvidia drivers.)
Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
XFce4 has NO *external* dependancies (whatever that means). Every desktop env for *nix is standalone and you most deffinitelly do not need Gnome or KDE installed in order to run XFce4. However, you have the ability to load the load the esential libraries/services from either KDE or Gnome if you want to speed up the execution of KDE/Gnome software or if you want to add more functionality. XFce4 does not have a usable desktop i.e. you can only put a background and no shortcuts there and you will need to run parts of Gnome/KDE if you want a desktop with folders and shortcuts.
IceWM is my favorite.
I don't know who you are but you are not an Xfce developer. You're posting history also shows a high amount of downmodded posts.
... too bad you are taking credit for something you didn't help out with. Perhaps you would like to make it up and send us some donation$ ?
/. crowd: the server isn't even getting warn yet... bring it on more!
Too bad. I'm one of the people who puts a lot of time in xfce
PS oh yeah to the
PS2 thx to the xfce.org crew... now get back to work for 4.4.0 !
Terrific. Now we can subvert our package management systems, and screw up our computers just like Windows users do. In no time at all we'll be formatting our hard drives and reinstalling everything from scratch on an annual basis. Maybe then GNU/Linux will be considered "ready for the desktop".
you forgot to add something...
if you absolutely must clutter your desktop with files and icons. add to XFCE the ROX filer from here
it will give you the ability to have thousands of icons and files on your desktop as well as that comforting "my computer" that makes your computer all warm and fuzzy.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
You've just re-implemented CDE.
:)
AGAIN.
It's the e(X)tremely (f)*cking (c)de-like (e)nvironment.
Again... congrats.
GJC
Gregory Casamento
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