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Scalable Enterprise Buzzword Solutions

prostoalex writes "Need a scalable enterprise solution? You're in luck, as those three buzzwords have become so prominent in the technology industry, that they can describe pretty much anything, according to Associated Press. The article later goes on to blame Microsoft and Apple for 'dumbing down' the product descriptions in order to appeal to non-tech-savvy audiences. 'High-tech companies don't release products anymore, they provide solutions. And those solutions don't simply run a program or play a song. Instead, they enable experiences, optimize agility or make people's passions come alive', the AP article states."

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  1. Dumbing down product descriptions? by danamania · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple would never do that, not with Xserves*

    * Do not eat Xserve.

    1. Re:Dumbing down product descriptions? by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
      Apple would never do that, not with Xserves*

      * Do not eat Xserve.

      I see you have that First Post solution enhancing your lifestyle, congratulations.

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  2. Need more buzzwords? by IO+ERROR · · Score: 4, Informative
    My favorite: Web Economy Bullshit Generator
    Dilbert-inspired: The Buzzword Generator
    Yet Another Buzzword Generator

    And there are many, many more buzzword generators out there, implemented using open-architected dynamic algorithms by organic radical policies...

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    1. Re:Need more buzzwords? by The+Hobo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Two words:

      Bullshit Bingo

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    2. Re:Need more buzzwords? by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 5, Funny

      I once heard of a company that used the following as their mission statement. You might as well just excerpt theirs. No kidding.

      (company) leverages core skillsets and world-class team synergy through (product) to provide clients worldwide with robust, scalable, modern turnkey implementations of flexible, personalized, cutting-edge Internet-enabled e-business application product suite e-solution architectures that accelerate response to customer and real-world market demands and reliably adapt to evolving technology needs, seamlessly and efficiently integrating and synchronizing with their existing legacy infrastructure, enhancing the e-readiness capabilities of their e-commerce production environments across the enterprise while giving them a critical competitive advantage and taking them to the next level.

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    3. Re:Need more buzzwords? by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny
      I ported this from an unattributed VM REXX program dating back to 8/10/1982. The quoted mission statement could have been cut right from its output.

      This is perl program, so just grab it down, read through it to make sure I don't rm -rf / and stuff, and have fun!

      Foggy.txt

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  3. Dumbing down? by mOoZik · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I call it being specific. Does it matter to you if a power supply is called a power cube or a consumer energy solution? Seriously though, the ones that provide "solutions" are selling custom products and appropriate services, so it would be difficult to explicitly state what it is that they sell, while the consumer market is uber-specific. MS would not sell you a "solution," at least not in the same sense that it would sell a giant multinational a data management solution. Or something like that.

    1. Re:Dumbing down? by Smidge204 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Does it matter to you if a power supply is called a power cube or a consumer energy solution?

      Yes, because if I read an ad for a "consumer energy solution", I have no idea what it is. How is that being specific?

      Is it a battery pack? Is it a gasoline powered generator? Is it some miniature fusion reactor that I can put in my basement and "solve" my "energy problem" (eg: Paying my utility bills...)? Even "Power Cube" is horrible. Sounds like a game console. "Desktop computer power supply." That's specific - and rather non-techical!

      (I know your post was just an example, but so was mine!)
      =Smidge=

  4. IBM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    was the world's first "solutions" company. The big-iron dinosaurs -- the DECs, the Amdahls, the Univacs -- were all talking about "solutions" long before Microsoft and Apple.

    All in all, a stupid article from a moron too lazy to do any research.

    1. Re:IBM... by Monkelectric · · Score: 3, Funny
      Microsoft learned most of their tricks from IBM, including FUD which was an IBM invention that Microsoft perfected. Microsoft in some ways is in the same situation as we are in the united states. They cant do *anything* without being critisized.

      Not to say they are without blame -- I remember the pure horror the first time I used Visual Studio .NET and found that it opens not "Project" files like VS6 but "Solution" files.

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  5. For high end computing and low end computing by BWJones · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article later goes on to blame Microsoft and Apple for 'dumbing down' the product descriptions in order to appeal to non-tech-savvy audiences. 'High-tech companies don't release products anymore, they provide solutions. And those solutions don't simply run a program or play a song. Instead, they enable experiences, optimize agility or make people's passions come alive'

    It's about flexibility. Well, I started by using OS X simply because it was a more productive OS environment than IRIX, Solaris, Windows or yes, Linux. I could use one environment to run specific scientific code, run Office and Photoshop along with serving up webpages and other high end tasks including cluster computing all in one environment that allowed me to replace an SGI, and a Windows machine with one OS X box. The fact that I could also use iTunes, iPhoto, iDVD etc....etc....etc....allows me to also use them at home and suggest OS X running Macintosh systems for my family who knows very little about computers. If Apple can do that and market to both the high end and the low end with one solution, more power to them.

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  7. Don't blame this on Microsoft by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the work of IBM and the rest of the "services" oriented consultants. KPMG, Anderson, etc. A group of highly paid morons.

    But in the long run, services is actually the driving force in computing. Products are fine, but upon those products is a whole ecology of companies providing support, enhancement, and integration of those products, tailored for each individual company.

    In fact, this is what makes Open Source software so attractive. It sure as hell isn't good to be the company developing the software, but it is really good to be a service provider using that software. No longer do you need to pay for the software, you only need to pay for support.

    I guess this could be a double edged sword for customers, though. It seems that there would be an incentive to keep OSS as obtuse and inscrutable as possible to maximize support income. This obviously wouldn't happen with a commercial product that has to prove its worth by being easier to use and generally better than the equivalent OSS package, just to compete.

    1. Re:Don't blame this on Microsoft by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is the work of IBM and the rest of the "services" oriented consultants. KPMG, Anderson, etc. A group of highly paid morons.

      Well, as one of those ... um, morons ... I can tell you that the folks you really want to blame are the folks who actually buy the IT and use it. If they had serious IT talent in house, or had their other process/business experts actually working with those folks - they wouldn't need all of us moronic consultants. Of course, the people who need their IT problems solved (um... hence the term "solution"), rarely have the clout to cause the in-house IT shop to be expanded, and even if they could, they'd chop those people right back off once most of the heavy lifting was done.

      Anyway, as long as decent-sized firms need business problems solved with IT, somebody will have to do the work. To the extent that no in-house IT shop can keep the place running and handle large implementations of new tools, software, data, infrastructure... it's us morons to the rescue. And we have to live gig to gig, which means we're not getting paid for 40 solid hours of work every week of the year. We have to spend time finding new work, doing paperwork, and other things that make our actual customer-facing time as expensive as it is.

      Incidentally, we don't use the term "solution" when we're talking about Excel or Word (well, not usually). That language comes out in the context of larger scale (and "scalable," yes) things we bolt together out of the higher-end products.

      Now, I can't comment on which came first (IT's use of the term, vs what follows), but if you talk to the other operations people in a large company, you'll hear about "waste management solutions," "marketing solutions," "entryway security solutions," "fire supression solutions," and so on. Don't succumb to slashdot tunnel vision on this one!

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  8. Good article by Killswitch1968 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nice to see an article that thinks outside the box into new paradigms and synergies.

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  9. Not as good as you think by Neoporcupine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I hear these buzz words I immediately assume that whatever the hell they are selling is not as good as the words may lead you to think. They're saying something but they are hiding something. Damned weasels.

    Give me benchmarks! Give me comparisons!

  10. So what by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Engineers don't have the money and don't make the buying decisions, so there is no need to wrap products up in geek-appeal.

    To sell anything, you have to pitch the product to the person with the signing power. If your target customers are six year old girls you paint it pink and sparkly. If your target customer is a CEO/CIO + board of directors then you dress it up with buzzwords and phrases. Technical details are stuff these folk don't understand add confusion.

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    1. Re:So what by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Engineers don't have the money and don't make the buying decisions,"

      Yes they do, because today's world of scalable enterprise solutions everybody is an engineer! Just ask your local web engineer.

    2. Re:So what by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Correct. The world is governed by bullshit.

      First order of business for a CEO/CIO/board is to not make any decisions that will end up getting your ass fired.

      Buying product that is dressed up with warm fuzzy sound-bites is appealing. Geek-talk sound very risky.

      "Synergetic integration" sounds nice and sounds like a good decision.

      "Client server system using a fibre optic backbone an V6 IP stacks" sounds pretty risky. When something goes wrong, the people that the decision makers report to (board/stock holders/...) will think the person took unnecessary risks, even if these descriptions are of exactly the same product/service.

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  11. Bill Hicks Had It Right. by colonslashslash · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "If any of you here are in advertising or marketing..... kill yourselves."

    I have to "interface" with the AdExecs on a regular basis at work, and they are so god damn annoying. Always sitting around "doing lunch" whilst creating "PowerPoints" to present to the upper-echelons of management, showing how they have "factored-in" their latest and greatest "thinking outside-of-the-box".

    Makes me so enraged I want to throw up and shoot them at the same time. Grrr.

    I guess what really pisses me off is the fact that they get paid to do the same basic job I do. Bullshit the bosses ;)

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    1. Re:Bill Hicks Had It Right. by 0x20 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...unless he can throw up bullets.

  12. Newflash! by TheOriginalRevdoc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Advertisers and corporate relations departments produce bullshit... film at 11.

  13. Solutions by kevlar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'High-tech companies don't release products anymore, they provide solutions. And those solutions don't simply run a program or play a song. Instead, they enable experiences, optimize agility or make people's passions come alive'

    OR, those solutions route phone calls, let you manage and share your calendar or take a picture of your license plate when you run a red light.

    Those buzzwords do have definitions. Its the simpletons in Marketing and PR who try to decsribe shit without understanding what the shit does or how it will be used.

    I've often wondered if the vague descriptions served a another purpose, which is to throw off your potential competition by not telling anyone what you do... Maybe thats why those companies usually have no customers...

  14. Just an old dog not wanting to learn new jargon... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After reading the article, I'd say he's basically bashing new jargon because he doesn't see a need for it.

    I would say most of what he sites is pretty silly, but "Scalable?"

    I can't think of a better word to describe something as highly functional as scalable, even if sometimes it applies to things it really shouldn't matter for.

    But we'll take for instance a simple peer to peer file sharing network. Some file sharing networks simply don't scale well to thousands of users, or hundreds of thousands but work really well for a few dozen. So knowing weather or not something like this is scalable enough to demonstrate to a small office, then deploy company wide. Knowing something like that REALLY WILL save you some heartache later one.

    Or how about rendering engines? Some scale DOWN as well as up. A good scalalbe engine means software will drop features on low end hardware, and take advantage of more on newer hardware.

    Some jargon is useful.

    But others are just annoying. I still hate the term "BLOG". We already has sufficient terms to describe most post and forum sites, but the term BLOG implies a specific type and now sites that aren't really blogs are being called blogs by the internet newcomers who don't know any better.

    So ... uh... blah.

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  15. Whiney bitch by kevlar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That guy is a whiney bitch. His examples are totally bogus.

    Enterprise = Anything dealing with corporations
    Scalable = Anything that can support growth
    Blog = Web Log. Its a fucking diary.

    I was expecting to see shit like "Synergy", but "Data Migration"?!? How the hell can you be in the IT industry and not understand Data Migration?

    What a douche bag!

  16. Dot Com pre-IPO Buzzword Primer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Buzzword Translation
    -------- -----------
    Adaptable Product not yet coded.
    Scalable Not scalable.
    Best-of-Breed As good as other vaporware.
    Zero-maintenance Zero-utility.
    Open Works with anything - just not with your systems.

  17. A Win/Win Proposition for Leveraging Strategic Com by QuickFox · · Score: 5, Funny

    A Win/Win Proposition for Leveraging Strategic Community Synergies

    It is a well-known fact that at the current point in time unprecedented opportunities for leveraging win/win strategies arise through emergent social-dynamics synergies heralding revolutionary technology breakthroughs in world-wide media applications.

    This post presents to the Slashdot community a proposal for an exciting new roadmap that delineates a win/win strategy integrating unique potentials for reaping the benefits of emergent synergistic effects arising from a major paradigm shift in focus group dynamics and from leveraging cost/benefit appraisals in the resulting market-share contribution matrix.

    I think we can all agree that innovative win/win strategies to facilitate the on-going paradigm shifts in market model convergence scenario implementations spearheding cutting-edge technology utilization are paramount to the success of a comprehensive assessment of the emergent Slashdot win/win market penetration focus group convergence synergy potential.

    This revolutionary proposal comprises a visionary win/win scenario for leveraging factors that consume all resources, in other words, resource hogs. The new strategy implements enhanced information flows wherein the resultant rise in information flow constitutes a major asset in the win/win strategy for enhancing countermeasures against this particular type of resource-consuming factor, in that the resultant friction will wash them away.

    This unique win/win/win scenario comprises state-of-the-art paradigm shifts in community-building strategies for leveraging burgeoning cutting-edge visions of innovative synergized implementation models that underscore the win/win/win/win potentials of a comprehensive market-share focus to facilitate the sustainable spearheading of integrated emergent convergence-orientated industry exposures utilizing win/win/win/win/win propositions for heralding the introduction of unprecedented new win/win/win/win/win/win technology cost/benefit appraisals in order to enhance your browsing experience.

    (If you read this post very carefully, you'll notice that if you remove all the buzzwords, what remains is hogwash. Literally.)

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  18. Confused? Just read.... by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    "XML Enterprise Object Network Services 101 with UML in Seven Days for Dummies Super-Bible Unleashed"

    I read it and am now all cleared up. It even removed nasal congestion under 2 minutes and left my nose smelling minty clean with a mild scent of fresh lemon.

  19. Re:IP laws. by Gherald · · Score: 4, Funny

    > without being sued... er... litigated against.

    Don't you mean "without other companies leveraging their intellectual property at our expense" ?

  20. Buzzwords... by Thunderstruck · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've got your slashdot buzzwords right here in one handy, easy to remember phrase:

    In Soviet Russia, all your base are imagining an ad-hoc beowulf cluster of old korean overlords welcoming YOU!

    Thank you.

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  21. communications issues by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My pet peeve is that, when things go wrong, they're "issues". "Your car has a tree issue" has become the kind of BS we hear every day. They're PROBLEMS. It's OK to have problems - otherwise, who's going to buy your solutions?

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  22. Re:Solutions replaced products long ago by Sique · · Score: 4, Funny

    I remember an advertisement selling "Your Problem - Our Solution" about 20 years ago. It was so abundant and the words "Your problem" and "Our solution" were aligned somewhat strange in the design, so we were always forced to read "Our Solution - Your Problem".

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  23. Don Watson's Death Sentence by Anthony · · Score: 4, Informative

    I read his book a few months ago. He talks of the death of public language, how it has been pervaded by words and phrases that have no real power or truth - dead language.

    To quote from the following article Fighting the Death Sentence

    "To provide outcome-related research and consultancy services that address real-world issues" - shrieks of laughter. The university's "approach to quality management is underpinned by a strong commitment to continuous improvement and a whole-of-organisation framework" - uproar in the room. The university in question was RMIT but it could have been any of them. Go to your website and read the language, Watson urged guests at a recent Deans of Education dinner. That made people laugh even more. They worked at universities; they knew what he was talking about. Some of them probably even wrote this stuff. It was a surreal moment. But to Watson the joke has a sting. It is funny and it is awful. A terrible thing is happening to the language, he believes, and at the end of the day, in a globalised world, it is not a positive communications outcome. In other words, there is a pox upon our public speech.

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  24. Obfuscational Rhetoric by WeirdKid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We've been making fun of this for years. My pet peeve of the moment is the over-use of slightly ambiguous statements followed by "from a this-or-that perspective".

    Example: Instead of saying "What is your schedule?" I get: "What is your timeline, from a scheduling perspective?"

    Or, instead of "How is the project going?", I get: "How are things going, from a project perspective?"

    I swear to God that the people I work with can't form a sentence without this. It drives me nuts. That, and people who say "processees". Fucking ignorant.

  25. It is marketing by fermion · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And any reasonable person who takes it seriously get what they deserve. It is reducing the rating of the computers perfomance, or even the cars performanace, to a single number. It is invoking the 'single vendor', either as a good or bad thing, to sell MS products. We do not buy furniture, we buy a lifestyle. We do not buy beer, we buy a dudes night out. We show our love not through the daily attention paid to another person, but through the size of diamond or a security system or, as a base, the amount of money we are able to accumulate.

    We know that people buy stuff of spam. I saw a $2 pan being sold as a custom $10 fondue set. MS tells us that employees are incapable of using anything other than MS Windows. Apple tells us that you are a square if you don't use Macs. IBM promises massive profits if you use the complete solution. Sun says that IBM is ripping everyone off. It is game and learning to play it is part of our brand of capitalism.

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  26. Re:My favorite is 'leverage' by jonadab · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ah, but what do you want to leverage? Why, solutions, of course. What kind
    of solutions? Enterprise solutions, obviously. And why do you want to
    leverage these enterprise solutions? In order to set the company on
    a critical path to achieve total quality, monetize the bottom line, and
    raise the bar and set the standard for the entire industry, of course. Ah,
    but here's the real question: *how* do you leverage the enterprise solutions
    and set the company on a critical path to do those things? You need a
    gameplan, a gameplan to get everyone on the same page going forward in a
    fault-tollerant and robust expectations paradigm, that's how, because only
    with that kind of dynamic will you really out-compete the competition in the
    new ecconomy. So, we need to revisit our objectives and reorient our goals
    so that we -- all of us -- can accomplish this vision, this future, indeed,
    this destiny. Everyone has to participate in the process, because you can't
    meet the kits if you don't go to St. Ives...

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  27. The word "synergy" by Linknoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know if the people using synergy actually know what it means, but I'm sick of people on Slashdot treating it as if it's a word without meaning. When two things are synergistic, it means that they produce greater results working together than the combination would seperately. For example, there's a synergy between zinc and vitamin E. If you take either one alone, you won't get the benefit you would if you take both together.

    1. Re:The word "synergy" by Jerf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't know if the people using synergy actually know what it means,

      If I'm reading the cards correctly (on rather scanty hints), the reason that "synergy" has become such a Dirty Word amoung us realists is that while synergy is a real thing and can have outstanding benefits, in its typical use it is almost always indicates a suicide pact in progress. "Synergy" is typically used as the major reason behind a merger, and "synergy" mergers almost always fail because of the underestimation of both companies of the difficulty in merging cultures.

      (Culture is such a soft, fuzzy thing, right, and it couldn't be hard at all to make everything mesh, right? You'd think so, because it's basically impossible to put into words why it is difficult (at least not without it sounding silly or trivial), thus for many people not accostomed to thinking without words it is also impossible to think. Nevertheless, history shows it is so difficult it may border on the impossible for sufficiently large companies.)

      AOL + Time Warner is probably one of the biggest examples of this. Sure, on paper the synergy was mind-blowing. In reality, the combined company was completely unable to execute. (In fact, the lack of execution almost completely boggles the mind.)

      "Synergy" seems to lead a lot of companies to doom; they see the benefits but fail to see the costs.

  28. Why "solutions" rather than concrete technology by dbrower · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A "solution" sale leads one to higher "value based pricing", where a technology sale leads one to "cost based pricing".

    For someone on the selling side, it's more profitable to sell value-based 'solutions' rather than technology where he has to compete on price.

    For someone on the buying side, getting a "solution" may be more expensive, or it may be cheaper if one doesn't want to be ones own integrator and support department. You are basically paying for reduced hassle. The trick is quantifying the value of your own hassle, and the liklihood the 'solution' will have its own hassles, and their cost. Different people will evalutate these things differently.

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  29. I've seen this go both ways. by wasted · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know of small busines CEOs/CIOs that look for specifics. Those that try to sell buzzwords don't get the sale, and salespersons with hardware/software knowledge have a decent chance. Often, though, the small-business IT staff will have found the optimum product(s) to solve the problem and already have the purchase order ready to sign as soon as the problem is diagnosed. That is true adaptability and flexibility in my humble opinion.

    I also know of people who would make Dilbert's PHB look like a genius. I've seen one business with a division that was losing to a competitor in many areas, with their IT lag seriously hurting their situation. That business did not realize that their IT was causing a problem with customers, even though it was painfully obvious.

    I have also met IT sales staff people who were reprimanded for giving specifics (such as cables, switches, routers, hubs, NICs, CDs, and licenses,) instead of using the term "solution" when presenting the cost estimate to the CIOs of companies who were interested in their product.

    I think too many people have sat through too many marketing classes without learning anything, and this is the result. Sales people are instructed to sell a solution to a problem instead of the actual product, and a lot of CEOs and a few CIOs know they have a problem without knowing the cause, and just want a solution. Consequently, solutions have a higher margin than products, even if the product is exactly the same as the solution.

    Or, I could be wrong, and PHBs are only a figment of Mr. Adam's imagination.

    1. Re:I've seen this go both ways. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      "I know of small busines CEOs/CIOs that look for specifics."

      This just in: it is possible to post to Slashdot from parallel dimensions.

      "I also know of people who would make Dilbert's PHB look like a genius."

      That sounds more like MY universe...

      "Sales people are instructed to sell a solution to a problem instead of the actual product..."

      Actually (and I'm not trying to be funny here, not that I succeeded earlier) a good sales person is supposed to sell a solution to a problem rather than just a product. The problem is sales people who view one product as the only solution, rather than explore a range of possibilities and find the optimal price/function point that best suits the customer, since they tend to exploit the ignorance of non-technical managerial types.

      But this isn't just limited to sales vermin!

      Take all the geeks who push Linux here on /.: some user just want to open the box, plug it in, switch it on and get going without having to make thousands of choices or research which distro is the "best". Then there's the Windows fanboys: you might find it easy installing anti-virus and anti-spyware software, configuring firewalls, etc, but some people don't want all that (see the recent article about people "giving up" on the internet). And of course Mac nut-jobs aren't any different: some people like being able to tweak their hardware, configure the OS to their taste, play all the latest games, and so on.*

      The message here is "horses for courses"; don't assume that you know what someone wants better than they do (even if they wouldn't know a CPU from a seeping ewe), don't let bias cloud recommendations. Advocate, yes, but glossing over any difficulties a given user might face, or ignoring the basic reason someone has for making a purchase is irresponsible, whether on a personal or professional level.

      *Disclaimer: I'm a Mac nut-job. That doesn't mean I can't see potential problems for others with Macs, just that none of those problems matter to me.

  30. Compared to what, car companies? by Nice2Cats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This has nothing to do with computers and everything to do with marketing. In fact, computer marketing is still pretty cerebral compared to what car builders do: Stupid films with their products ripping up the lane markers, stupid films with their pickup trucks getting loaded up to the brim with more rocks than will fit in the average garden...

    Check out how many car ads have semi-naked women running around in them, drooling at the sight of a man behind the steering wheel. Now, I'm the last person to object to semi-naked women, and under the right circumstances, I could probably take the drooling, but just what does this have to do with the product?

    Right, nothing. Pure marketing. I'm sure the time will come when computers will be marketed with sex, too, but until then, keep in mind that we've still got it good.

  31. Re:Reminds me of .Net by jjohnson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It was supposed to be several things:

    1. A language neutral virtual machine that allows developers to code in their language of choice.
    2. A standard library covering everything you'd need, especially for hiding the Win32 API.
    3. A collection of software written to the VM and the standard library that, in virtue of that standardization, would allow for greater interoperability and integration (taking advantage of things like binary compatibility for basic datatypes, for example).
    4. A framework like Passport on steroids that would unify authentication and authorization and data storage over the network (AKA Hailstorm).

    The reason no one really knows, or will ever know, is because, first, every business unit at MS was ordered to find some way, any way, to label themselves as .NET, thus diluting the whole brand before anyone even knew what it was; and second, MS couldn't commit itself to .NET 100%, and as result, many developers are already planning on skipping .NET because Avalon, XAML et al are already in the pipeline for Longhorn.

    It's too bad, in a way. .NET and C# have a lot of good points (if only by fixing Java's obvious shortcomings); a really good standard library to simplify win32 programming is always to be desired. But .NET will never have the ubiquity it needs for the higher order benefits to really pay off. What they should have done with Longhorn was call it "the native .NET OS" or something like that (and announce Longhorn technologies as additions to .NET), so that developers feel that .NET has both longevity and ubiquity. As it stands, MS has fatally undercut .NET by announcing the technologies that will replace it.

    As for what will happen now, .NET will survive for a decade or so as a major but never dominant technology because of points #1 and #2. #3 will see some token uses but never really become a selling point for anything. With Passport's demise, #4 is already dead, and its market is being eaten by things like federated identity management.

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  32. Examples? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Funny

    "experiences, optimize agility or make people's passions come alive"

    Sounds pretty much like sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll.

  33. Well, _I_ hate the _system_ that created you by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nothing personal, but I hate the system that created you. More to the point, those idiots you "do lunch" with.

    Business and technical decisions are taken by people _completely_ unqualified, based purely on "oh, I know that guy. We played golf. Let's buy whatever he's selling." Or on "but the nice salesperson said it would solve all the problems, including cancer, AIDS and world hunger." Or here _literally_, and in that manager's own words, a broken product got bought "because it had the nicer powerpoint presentation." (To make it even more surrealistic, a product noone needed.)

    And I've been on the receiving end of that fuck-up entirely too often. Completely dysfunctional "solutions" are bought like that. And then we engineers and admins have to make a completely broken product work. And if it still doesn't, then it obviously has to be our fault. Because the nice salesperson told the PHB that it works, and surely the nice salesperson couldn't have possibly lied to the customer. It must be those mean engineers that sabotage it.

    And even _if_ the problem does eventually get to be acknowledged by the PHB, the next result is more lunches done, more colourful powerpoint foils are presented, and the PHB buys an even more broken v2.0 of the same product. (Or, don't laugh, some PHBs here are looking forward to version 6.0 of a totally broken product.) Surely now all problems are fixed. Because the nice salesperson said so.

    So I can't say I hate you, as such. Where there's a demand, someone creates the supply. I.e., if some PHBs actually want to be lied to and scammed, yep, the system also produced the marketting people who do that. Perfectly normal economics there.

    What I would however like to see fixed is the system.

    For starters, I'd like to see some serious liability in this industry. Because this hiding behind an EULA that says "whatever happened, it's your problem, not ours" is just legalizing bigger and bigger marketting frauds. So I'd like to see people and companies facing a billion sized lawsuit if they mis-represented a product as doing what it really doesn't.

    Also, while I guess one can't outlaw bullshit buzzwords as such, I'd like to see it legally mandatory to clarify (A) exactly what it means, and (B) exactly on what case studies it had that effect.

    E.g., "synergy"? Ok. Between what and what? On what cases did you notice that synergistic effect? And how big was it?

    E.g., "lower TCO"? Fine. On what use case? Compared to what? (Most of this crap would only lower TCO compared to carving that data by hand on stone blocks, like in the Flintstones.) And how much lower was the TCO, then? Does that include the cost of the uber-expensive consultants to make it work, or?

    E.g., "scalable"? Good. Scalable in which way? And in which way is that better than just the plain-old using a cluster and load-balancer?

    Etc.

    Then maybe we'll see _some_ (minimal) honesty in advertising in our lifetimes. And then we nerds wouldn't have to be disgusted by the whole marketting bullshit.

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