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ESPN And Electronic Arts Sign 15-Year Deal

acxr is wasted writes "Electronic Arts has dealt another blow to rival Sega by signing a 15-year agreement with ESPN, giving the publisher exclusive video game rights to ESPN branded material. EA has recently faced pressure from popular ESPN-branded Sega titles released at discount prices, prompting their recent deal with the NFL, and failed bid for the NBA."

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  1. what's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Release a smallpox infected Madden 2006 and call it manifest destiny?

  2. Ehh by damicatz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sounds like they are using Microsoft-esque tatics now. How long will it be before the DOJ gets on their case? Oh well, this doesn't change my stance on EA. They haven't produced a decent game in over 5 years.

    1. Re:Ehh by prockcore · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh well, this doesn't change my stance on EA. They haven't produced a decent game in over 5 years.

      If you mean published a decent game, you're wrong. In fact, I'm playing Burnout 3 right now, and loving it.

      If you mean developed a decent game.. well that's another story.

  3. Doesn't really matter. by Sheetrock · · Score: 3, Insightful
    These sports games are getting really stale anyway. These deals actually free Sega up to do something creative with the genre, ala Mutant League Football/Hockey.

    RPGs are the most important thing on any console anyway.

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    1. Re:Doesn't really matter. by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      RPGs are the most important thing on any console anyway.

      Hm... a hockey game where you can use Rocket Propelled Grenades... I think you've got a great idea there!

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  4. Idiot by kaedemichi255 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "We don't anticipating changing anything significantly from what we are currently doing," Larry Probst, chairman and chief executive of EA, said in an interview.

    Not only is EA's CEO an evil monopolist, he's not very good at grammar either...

  5. Great for the industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I personally feel that this will only help consumers and the industry. Now we won't have to worry about which title will be the better, because there will only be one. Also, the programmers at EA won't have to work extra long hours any more, because they won't have to make any changes to the games other than adding new seasonal data. Everyone's a winner!

    1. Re:Great for the industry by eclectro · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also, the programmers at EA won't have to work extra long hours any more

      Actually this deal will insure that coders go 15 years without a lunchbreak

      It sux to be them.

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  6. Mixed Feelings by pHatidic · · Score: 5, Funny

    On one hand the evil alliance is getting more powerful by the day. On the other hand, ESPN pretty much only covers boring invented-for-tv/radio sports. I guess since I don't play sports games or EA games this doesn't really bother me, although the day they try to buy out the Nethack dev team I'll be outside corporate headquarters with my torch and pitchfork.

    1. Re:Mixed Feelings by phriedom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree. By itself this isn't a big deal. The ESPN name adds a little bit of credibility, and the ESPN announcer voices add a bit of professionalism to the image, but there is no real substance lost. However, the NFL's decision to sell exclusive rights is a much bigger deal, and when you combine that with ESPN's decision, its a pretty nasty one-two punch to Sega.

      It might be the right decision for ESPN, but I really think it was a bad move by the NFL. Yes, it is money in the bank now for the NFL, but I think in the long term it works against them. A vibrant, competitive video game market for NFL licensed games is a HUGE promotion/marketing tool for the NFL. People playing the games get a lot more involved in the players and teams that people who just watch it on TV sometimes. I'll admit I never watched any football until I played Madden on the playstation and learned about the teams and the players and how the play calling influenced the game. I think that video games and fantasy leagues provide the kind of interaction that makes watching football exciting in a way that NO amount of regular advertising and promotion can do at any price. Plus, video games reach teens when they are impressionable and can make them NFL fans for life. Putting all their eggs in the EA basket might be a decision they come to regret.

      I guess some of that applies to ESPN too. By taking the deal from EA they are cutting them selves off from Sega and other companies that might be willing to pay for the priviledge of promoting ESPN.

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  7. My thoughts by John Madden. by BitwiseX · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you look ahead 15 years, this deal is going to expire. This deal is going to last 5475 days, and we all know that is a long time. This could be a very good deal for EA, but if it turns out to be a bad move, then it's not going to be good for EA.

    1. Re:My thoughts by John Madden. by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Funny

      My favorite Madden quote (forget about who): "Here's a guy, who - when he runs - he goes faster!"

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    2. Re:My thoughts by John Madden. by tuxter · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ahhhh, I see, I apologise for my lunacy. Not being american I have only heard of John Madden, not actually heard him. I seem to remember an announcer at the sydney olympics saying about a tennis player...."And before every match, his wife kisses his balls for good luck."

    3. Re:My thoughts by John Madden. by tuxter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here ya go, apologies

      Here are the top nine comments made by NBC sports commentators so far during the Summer Olympics that they would like to take back:

      1. Weightlifting commentator: "This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw her snatch this morning during her warm up and it was amazing."
      2. Dressage commentator: "This is really a lovely horse and I speak from personal experience since I once mounted her mother."
      3. Paul Hamm, Gymnast: "I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother and father."
      4. Boxing Analyst: "Sure there have been injuries, and even some deaths in boxing, but none of them really that serious.
      5. Softball announcer: "If history repeats itself, I should think we can expect the same thing again."
      6. Basketball analyst: "He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces."
      7. At the rowing medal ceremony: "Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the IOC president is hugging the cox of the British crew."
      8. Soccer commentator: "Julian Dicks is everywhere. It's like they've got eleven Dicks on the field."
      9. Tennis commentator: "One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them...

    4. Re:My thoughts by John Madden. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.snopes.com/humor/lists/olympics.asp

  8. Re:Huh? by demosthenes247 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    sports fans usually have favorite players and teams, and love the fact that they are able to play as their own specific team/player. the espn games aren't simply branded as ESPN. they have the look and feel of ESPN telecasts as well as ESPN announcers and commentators. this just adds to the overall experience of the game which is supposed to be a recreation of the NBA or NHL or whatever. the fantasy league game would be utterly boring.

  9. Well this is a big poke in the eye... by yuriismaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FTA: "'We don't anticipating changing anything significantly from what we are currently doing'... they will potentially include ESPN data, graphics and sportscasters" [Emphasis mine]

    Now cmon, if you plan to contract one of the largest names in sports news, then at least integrate it into the game. The only reason EA is buying the ESPN license apparently to use "ESPN properties as potential video games, including the "X Games" extreme athletics competitions, poker and even bass fishing."

    Wow, cause I want to spend 50 dollars on ESPN World Poker Tour $year.

    1. Re:Well this is a big poke in the eye... by Warskull · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't think EA actually bought the ESPN license for the "X Games" this time. I think the real reason they bough the ESPN license is because they haven't secured exclusive deals the the NBA and NHL. So if you can't prevent your competition from making games, steal their license and name. Sega was releasing ESPN hockey, football, and basketball games that were easily 3 times better than EA game for half the price (at release.) EA knows their business model can't come up with a game to match their quality and matching the price would defeat the whole purpose of their business model (sacrifice quality and your employees welfare for highest possible profits.) Thus they steal Sega's license.

  10. Blitz (Some Real Creativity) by Zeromous · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Despite what many have said, this may not be such a bad thing.

    I mean now with Blitz free to do what they want, and a niche market opening up- I'm excited about sports games for once!

    It's really too bad there will likely be no 30$ ESPN Football or hockey again, but for each on of those, there will be an outlaw golf, or baseball stars.

    These unlicensed games have been missing from 'popular' libraries for years. I see this as only opening up a market for the smaller, savvy developer/publisher.

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  11. And now ALL motivation for EA to innovate is gone by samdu · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "We don't anticipating changing anything significantly from what we are currently doing," Larry Probst, chairman and chief executive of EA, said in an interview.


    And there is EA's CEO admitting as much. This is horrible for the industry. EA has cranked out some crap this year, but the pressure from Sega has been keeping the Sports line programmers on their toes. Now with no competition, they're free to churn out crappy sports games, too. Sigh.

  12. The dangerous thing is by Solr_Flare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is dangerous is that EA is definitely trying to consolidate the industry. They are doing sports games right now, but how long till they start moving in on your company of choice? They already made an initial attempt at Ubisoft, and they are buying licenses from Nintendo. Who is going to be next on the list?

    If EA gets enough control over the gaming industry, even if you never play their games they'll still be able to have an impact. How about, for example, increasing the price on their games to $60 a pop? If EA has enough marketshare in the industry, you don't think every other publisher wouldn't follow suit?

    That's just one example. EA is out to win big. Check out this article here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4180453.stm

    EA's stated long term goal is to become the largest Entertainment Firm in the world. They want to take on the big names in the movie industry via games. They cite Disney as one of their targets to beat in future years.

    EA isn't going to stop this, it is just going to keep getting worse until they are either:

    A) Forced to stop B) The well dries up on them and they die from bloat.

    Either way, this is bad for the consumer. This is most definitely *not* a healthy monolopy they are trying to form.

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    1. Re:The dangerous thing is by TSage · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sorry, but I'm not buying this.

      They are doing sports games right now, but how long till they start moving in on your company of choice? They already made an initial attempt at Ubisoft, and they are buying licenses from Nintendo. Who is going to be next on the list?

      OK, they went after Ubisoft and that was stopped. And how dare they buy licenses from Nintendo!! That obviously means EA will soon be buying Nintendo. Watch out Sony, you're next. Or so the implication goes. I mean somehow a company with a market capitalization of under $19 billion will be dominating an industry full of giants (another giant, FOX, will possibly soon be getting into). That would be some amazing business feats to accomplish.

      Now assuming they get all this market share, we should be wary because they will oppress the market to such a degree that you will feel their presence in every video game played. And if the largest publisher were to raise prices to $60 per game, obviously the smaller companies who are trying to compete with the juggernaut would follow suit. Much like Apple and Linux companies are selling their operating systems for the same price that MS does. And how Sega had to cut their videogames to $20 in order to match EA's own $20 pricing scheme.

      I believe most companies stated goal is to be the best firm in their given field (and now fields). This should be made headline news so people realize this immmediately! They must be stopped before they are allowed to commit egregious crimes that we cannot even think of yet!

      Meanwhile everyone on Slashdot mentions how most of their games are crap and don't buy them. If all their new NFL games are crap, well good luck to them; maybe they'll find a way to get water from a rock. I think videogame consumers generally don't respond with lots of money for junk games. Look at the community's latest rage over WOW despite heralding it as one of the best games of last year.

      I see why you are concerned, but I don't think it's anything to really worry about long term. There will be at least three much larger players involved for at least the next generation of consoles (Sony, Nintendo, MS) that have a larger impact on the industry.

      TSage

  13. Really matters by siskbc · · Score: 5, Insightful
    These sports games are getting really stale anyway. These deals actually free Sega up to do something creative with the genre...

    It matters. The reason why EA did this is because last year ESPN came out with a pretty damned good football game and priced it at $19.99. EA priced theirs at $49.99, figuring that their brand recognition would allow them to charge double. They were wrong. EA had to drop their price, and evidently didn't like it because they got pissed enough to shell out for an exclusive license.

    Result is they have a monopoly on NFL-licensed games for a long time. For sports fans - clearly not you, but there is some gamer/sports overlap - this sucks because we only have one choice, and it's guaranteed to be overpriced.

    More than likely, no other significant NFL games will be made. Even creative games like NFL blitz etc typically need licenses to survive.

    RPGs are the most important thing on any console anyway.

    You are kidding right? Console sales of RPGs are almost negligible.

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  14. Re:Microsoft by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't blame EA for this. They are looking after their own interestes (as any company should do in a matter like this). Blame ESPN and the NFL for agreeing to these deals.

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  15. Unholy Trinity by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only that, but The Walt Disney Company owns ESPN. If you'll remember, Disney was behind the copyright term extension acts. This makes an Unholy Trinity of Disney, EA, and Microsoft (whose MSN network hosts ESPN's web site).

  16. Re:Microsoft by hal2814 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought that Madden 64 did a good job without NFL logos or player names. I'm pretty sure that most people buying an American fooball game know that Red, Back, and White team called "Atlanta" is the Atlanta Falcons. They also have a pretty good idea that the "7" guy lined up at quarterback is Michael Vick. You can keep the strategies, teams and players without the logos.

  17. Re:Huh? by josh3736 · · Score: 3, Funny
    You're talking about the kids who buy Abercrombie & Fitch when you can get better quality from K-Mart and buy Starbucks when you could get it for $5.50 less from the gas station. The same kids who will listen to the latest shit put out by $RIAA_CASH_COW but scoff at anything independent, no matter how much better it is.

    Of course it matters what name is on the front.

  18. ESPN execs asleep at the wheel by Infonaut · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ESPN gave someone an exclusive license for FIFTEEN YEARS?!

    The industry could radically change in fifteen years. EA could shoot itself in the foot in five years, becoming an also-ran. Fifteen years in the video game industry is like 45 years in the world of broadcasting.

    It might be three years from now, or five, or 10 years from now, but ESPN will live to regret this deal.

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  19. Here is an idea by yorkpaddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I were sega, I would design a football game that lets users plug in team data. Make everything like the NFL except for uniforms, logos, and names. Then have some anonymous person on the internet post a mod pack that exactly replicates the protected NFL data. Make it very easy for consumers to plug in this data pack.

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  20. Will The Madden Name Be Dropped Soon? by blueZhift · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well now that EA has essentially bought up everything that a competitor like Sega might want to use to brand their football games, I wonder if Madden 2006 will be the last game with the Madden branding. Madden himself is getting old and given the way EA puts out a new football game every year, perhaps less relevant. Soon many of the fans playing the game won't even know who Madden is, many probably don't now. So the Madden name itself may not be worth as much as it used to be. Another question I would have is just how much longer does the current deal to use Madden's name last? If that deal expires soon, then what many of us know as Madden may eventually be known as EA ESPN NFL Football 2007.

    So maybe EA isn't an evil monopolist after all, they're just planning for the future!

  21. Re:15 years?!? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, the public should tell the NFL where to go. If people are stupid enoug to vote for tax subsidies for billionaires, then they are stupid enough to vote for tax breaks for billionaires without any compensation for themselves.

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  22. Gutless by Shihar · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is nothing wrong with a fantasy league other then that people want to use the real thing. Now people are terrified that EA has a monopoly on that name that everyone wants so badly. To this I say, who gives a fuck? Get a grip. This isn't an OS by stretch of the imagination where at least crying monopoly makes sense. This is a sport. A piece of recreation. EA and ESPN hold absolutely no monopoly over the things I can do to recreate. Don't like the way NFL or ESPN is doing business, DON'T WATCH. People have the power to make every stupid corporation under the sun vanish over night, they just are too lazy to do it.

    A good friend of mine is a sociologist. She will preach endlessly about how evil Wal-Mart and globalization is - then go to Wal-Mart to buy stuff instead of a mom and pop shop because they offer the largest selection at the lowest price. For fuck's sake. You don't need government action to take these companies down, just a week or two of not giving them your money.

    ESPN, the NFL, and EA are perfect examples of this. So ESPN enters into an agreement with EA that any right thinking person should immediately recognize as stifling innovation in sports games. The real question is not when EA is going to get nailed for being a monopoly, but when are YOU going to stop giving ESPN and EA your money. This is football for fuck's sake. Grow a pair of balls, suck it up, and don't watch the shit if you think their practices stink. This is a luxury we are talking about it. It is something that doesn't require loss of life or limb to boycott.

    People are whiny and obnoxious these days. I bet easily 95% of the people here that complain about this move on Slashdot are going to bitch up a three page essay on why EA is evil, then fork over a couple of twenties for their NFL 2005. Bah. The whiney masses are so gutless and spineless they deserve to have corporations like EA and ESPN walk all over them.

    1. Re:Gutless by Rhone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've been boycotting CDs (no, I don't use Kazaa either) because of the ridiculous prices for many years now, and the prices haven't gone down. Actually, CDs are MORE expensive now than before I started boycotting.

      I avoided paying to see movies in the theatres for years too, but that doesn't seem to have changed anything either.

      Likewise, I can boycott Madden football games, ESPN, and the NFL. I completely agree with you that we have the choice to do this.

      However, any support I could conceivably get for my boycott would just be a drop in the bucket, so let's be honest about the result: Me, or any other Slashdotter (most Slashdotters hate sports games anyway, so this is kinda moot) boycotting EA, the NFL, and ESPN doesn't mean that those companies are going to change their policies. It just means that I'll never be watching football or playing football video games again.

  23. Blatant revenge by rkischuk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If it wasn't obvious before, it should be fairly evident now. Sega pissed EA off like never before when it dropped all its game prices to $19.99. Not only did it threaten their market share, it threatened to change the paradigm for sports game pricing.

    EA would take a MASSIVE hit if customers began to EXPECT to only pay $19.99 for each year's incremental update to the prior year's sports games. It would not only hurt them in the games where Sega provides direct competition (NFL, NBA, NHL, etc), it would force them to shift the price of their unopposed games. Why would gamers pay $50 for Tiger Woods or NASCAR after paying just $20 for Madden?

    Rest assured, somewhere in the upper levels of EA, the bosses are paying a premium for these deals because they're factoring in the extra cash they'll make once Sega is crushed. The NFL was the opening salvo, the failed NBA bid an attempted backbreaker (especially since Sega's NBA game has been generally better in recent years). The Arena Football League deal attempts to seal off Sega's escape route (Sega could have design an AFL game to keep their football engine primed for the expiration of the NFL deal). But this is the heavy artillery. While Sega had begun establishing itself as a credible creator of sports games, the added ESPN name gave immediate credibility to the series in the eyes of consumers. Sega is some company that made a console they used to play Sonic on, ESPN almost defines sports to many Americans. Taking ESPN out of their hands puts them back to trying to build the Sega Sports name, but without a licensed NFL game as their flagship. EA is out for blood.

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