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Jade Empire Further Delayed

Posted by Zonk on from the wax-on-wax-off dept.

GamesIndustry.biz is reporting that much anticipated Oriental influenced action title Jade Empire will be delayed another month. From the article: "The Bioware-developed title is one of the most eagerly anticipated games on the Xbox, and marks a departure from the company's normal style of gameplay by veering into action RPG territory with multiple martial arts styles to learn."

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  1. "Oriental"? by blacklite001 · · Score: 1

    This isn't 1985. Use 'Asian' if you have to. But ideally, be more specific.

    1. Re:"Oriental"? by Pseudosapiens · · Score: 1

      What do we do if we're too ignorant to be more specific? I always thought "Asian" got the job done well enough. :|

    2. Re:"Oriental"? by blacklite001 · · Score: 1

      Asian is pretty good, but, if you'd like, refer to a country.
      Or even a direction. Southeast Asia. East Asia.
      "Oriental" is just silly-sounding at this point though.

    3. Re:"Oriental"? by MBraynard · · Score: 1
      This isn't an anal retentive left-wing politically correct website. Oriental will do just fine, thanks.

      See here for what it means unless you are too niggardly in developing your knowledge of the real meaning of the term.

    4. Re:"Oriental"? by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 1

      1996 called, it wants its cry-baby liberal politcal correctness back. After all the game isn't about opening a dry cleaning business so stop pretending to be offended.

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    5. Re:"Oriental"? by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      If someone called the "Dukes of Hazzard" game a "Honkey influenced action title," I would laugh my ass off.

      It's time to lighten up. It is not an insult unless the person is trying to hurt your feelings.

    6. Re:"Oriental"? by emilng · · Score: 1

      It is not an insult unless the person is trying to hurt your feelings.

      Just because it's not an insult doesn't mean it's not offensive.

      In this case Oriental might be appropriate because it just plays off of more stereotypes in CRPGs where the women are just sexual objects and all "orientals" know martial arts. I wonder if there is even going to be a dry cleaner and fruit stand in every town you visit too.

    7. Re:"Oriental"? by bynary · · Score: 1

      People are fickle. Anything that one says can be misconstrued to be an offense. Just because someone uses a certain, racially-charged term, does not mean that it is offensive. You have to look at context, intent, and the intended audience.

      I am offended by your use of the word "fruit" in describing a produce stand. Let's not use such offensive language.

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    8. Re:"Oriental"? by emilng · · Score: 1

      I am offended by your use of the word "fruit" in describing a produce stand. Let's not use such offensive language.

      You're right.
      CRPG makers would never allow "fruit" stands in their games.
      A produce stand would be more likely.

    9. Re:"Oriental"? by MBraynard · · Score: 1
      Why is it inappropriate?

      Use the term 'occidental' if you want and it is ineffective because no one knows what that means. Everyone knows what 'oriental' means.

  2. Re:Don't worry about it: by EddieBurkett · · Score: 1

    Given that E3 happens in May, and that article is dated April of 2004, I would highly doubt Microsoft would start planning to announce their acquisition of Bioware over a year ahead of time.

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  3. "Asian" is not a good term, either. by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    "Asian" is not the best word either, for talking of what is merely East Asia. Asia, after all, includes Turkey, Iraq, Israel, India, Irkutzk, etc. At least the term "Oriental" tends toward East Asia in common use.

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    1. Re:"Asian" is not a good term, either. by Pseudosapiens · · Score: 1

      A friend once told me that using "Oriental" was inappropriate because people aren't rugs. I'm so confused. :( What do I call these people?!

    2. Re:"Asian" is not a good term, either. by centauri · · Score: 1

      Why call them anything besides "people"?

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    3. Re:"Asian" is not a good term, either. by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1
      "Why call them anything besides "people"?"

      Because it makes the review we are discussing look even worse: GamesIndustry.biz is reporting that much anticipated people infuenced action title Jade Empire will be delayed another month.

      ...and what/who is Durga?

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    4. Re:"Asian" is not a good term, either. by centauri · · Score: 1

      ...and what/who is Durga?

      Good question. Here's another: What/who is google? Answer that and you'll answer both.

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    5. Re:"Asian" is not a good term, either. by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Because the game is very much influenced by the culture and people of that area of the globe and it helps if you have something to call that area...

  4. EB is a credible source? by SammyJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Considering that BioWare hasn't actually announced a release date, ever, I don't know how you can say this game is delayed. Take a look people, this information is coming from EBgames, not exactly the most authortative source for game release dates...

    1. Re:EB is a credible source? by nicksthings · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily. Retailers often get dates from the vendors directly and if not exact dates, they do get a general idea. In terms of ordering quanitities and business end type things, they need to be "in the know." They're often the best sources of this information, particularly when a delay is concerned.

    2. Re:EB is a credible source? by nicksthings · · Score: 1
      Well, from my experience (as someone who works for one of the two companies and who sees release dates set and changed daily), they're for the most part very accurate, even more so than any publication, both online and off. Do not, however, base your dates on those seen on their respective websites - they're often out dated and bizarre.

      In this case, both retailers have the same ship date which makes a pretty good case for it not being released in March (although I know stores - and OXM - will see a playable demo before then).

  5. It's lousy by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1
    "Asian is pretty good, but, if you'd like, refer to a country"

    It's lousy when you want to refer to some sore of culture/motif/milieu. Unless you think that bedouins in Yemen, Orthodox Jews in Tel Aviv, Punjabis, Khmers, and Japanese are "all alike".

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  6. Asian does not work either by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1
    "The word is rather archaic and Eurocentric, however, and as a result Asian is now the preferred term."

    How can it be preferred? Most Asians do not use "Asian" to mean just those on the eastern edge.

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  7. Re:Don't worry about it: by dragoncortez · · Score: 1

    Awesome troll post, dude. Keep it up!

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  8. Re:Don't worry about it: by tod_miller · · Score: 1

    Awesome redundant post, dude. Keep it up!

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  9. Pan-Asian? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1
    "Anyhow, the game looks based on a mish-mash of pan-Asian mythologies"

    Oh? Is it really Pan-Asian, including Hinduism, Judaeism, and Islam... or is it (once again) just from one small part of Asia?

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