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Phrack E-zine Comes To An End

Flammable writes "Since 1985 Phrack has been releasing ezines to public about Hacking, Cracking, Radio, Social Engineering, etc. All things come to an end, and Phrack is no different: the last issue, #63, is accepting articles from the community now."

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  1. A useful resource by Alcemenes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I could always find something interesting in useful in Phrack.

    1. Re:A useful resource by darc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, apparently the slashdot crowd couldn't wait for issue #63 to bring phrack to an end.

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  2. Hackers should know better... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 5, Funny
    Issue #63 is the last one - if only they had used something larger than a 6-bit counter.

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    1. Re:Hackers should know better... by zgornz · · Score: 2

      Umm if they are counting like what? Starting at 1 does not change the way you count.
      000001 is the first issue
      111111 is the last (issue 63)

  3. 2600 is still around by tutwabee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    2600 magazine seems to keep a little more up-to-date than phrack anyways.

    1. Re:2600 is still around by lambent · · Score: 3, Insightful

      2600 has dumbed itself down over the years; they now publish useless howto hacks for kiddies and bored teenagers. Emmanuel also seems to concern himself more with activism now, than actually doing anything useful.

      Phrack always had something sophisticated, unusual, or actually creative. The true hacker spirit, that didn't care that mass media confused 'hacker' with 'cracker', and that didn't wear the term 'hacker' like a merit badge or fashion statement, was very evident in their issues. They published for themselves, and if anyone got anything useful out of, that's great too.

      While the true spirit never dies, it's sad to see one of the last vestiges of the old school go under. (btw, they've had 'last issues' before. I'd be surprised if they went away forever.)

    2. Re:2600 is still around by spdt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Phrack is also a free, online magazine, where 2600 only (to my knowledge) prints their articles and charges $5 per copy.

    3. Re:2600 is still around by Dr+Kool,+PhD · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Agreed 100%. Most of the stuff in 2600 is crap, especially the political articles. If I want to read left wing propaganda I'd pick up the NY Times (or check politics.slashdot.org).

      The articles in Phrack are a step above the few technical articles in 2600 these days.

    4. Re:2600 is still around by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Funny

      I used to hang out under the stairs at the Galleria in Houston TX back in the 90s. All we really did was talk about Free BSD, Win NT, networking, and hacking door cards to hotels and such shit. And when the whole gang was togeather, we would walk outside to the park and smoke weed. Ahh the fond memories.

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    5. Re:2600 is still around by cicho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I haven't read either Phrack or 2600 in a couple of years, so I can only take your word for it when you say it's all political leftist content now. But maybe there's a kind of conceptual continuity there, you know? Computer hacking was significantly fueled by interest in complex systems that had enormous potential but were just out of reach in pre-PC days. Today everyone and his dog have a PC, RFCs are free for all to read and learn from, and there's enough open code to last a lifetime of study for those so inclined.

      So what complex, intriguing and powerful system is left that keeps the "rich folks only" tag and could conceivably be put to, well, other uses? What system is obscure and guards its inner workings? What huge complex system is left to hack? There's only one that really counts.

      Phrack published the infamous E911 paper and shit hit the fan big time for some people. This was important, because it got lots of cool people interested in civil rights in a new way. If an equivalent event were to happen these days, I don't think it will be about a technical manual.

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    6. Re:2600 is still around by lambent · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why does everything on /. have to be about establishing a pecking order based on how much credibility someone else has? It's always got to be a fight. Your phrases like "I seriously doubt you know", "Despite your phrases like" and "you don't seem to know much about" smack of intelluctual elitism. It was never truly about activism, chatting to your buddies or trying to tell other people what they do or do not know. Ma Bell has nothing to do with it. Putting other people down and infighting have nothing to do with it.

      It's about knowledge, aquiring and sharing both. I feel sorry for you, little man. Not everything has to be a battle. And next time you do want want to fight/shoot your mouth, get a real nick and don't hide behind the anonymous shield.

    7. Re:2600 is still around by telemonster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      2600 publishes what people submit. If you have something better than what is currently in the magazines, try submitting an article.

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    8. Re:2600 is still around by Lew+Payne · · Score: 2

      | Your phrases like "I seriously doubt you know", "Despite your phrases like"
      | and "you don't seem to know much about" smack of intelluctual elitism.
      | I feel sorry for you, little man. Not everything has to be a battle.

      Pot... kettle... nigritude.

    9. Re:2600 is still around by karniv0re · · Score: 2, Interesting

      2600 has dumbed itself down over the years;

      Right you are. I'm a life time subscriber, but with some of the content anymore - especially the letters - just pains me to read it. Once in a while there will be a good 'hacker'-worthy article. But most of the time it's "how do I get around right-click suppression using Internet Explorer?" Please.

      Fyodor introduced nmap on Phrack. Aleph 0ne taught us about buffer overflows through Phrack. And route was the funniest damn editor ever. My only complaints about the zine was the lack of grammar police, but other than that, it has probably been the most prestigous underground publication in the last 20 years, IMHO anyway.

      While I still believe in 2600, they really need to get back to their roots. Who cares if we alienate some newbies? If they are truely hackers as they claim to be (that title is so easy to come by these days), maybe it'll inspire them to do something other than read a how-to.

      I'll miss you, Phrack.

      btw, they've had 'last issues' before. I'd be surprised if they went away forever.

      I, for one, hope you're right.

    10. Re:2600 is still around by operagost · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think there's merit to the concept of a corporation as a "groupthink" with a life of its own. However, the fact remains that the employees of that corporation make many individual decisions and if these were always ethically sound, the corporation could NOT do evil. You reap what you sow. So the corporation could be an interesting example of sociopathy on a sociological level (if that makes any sense) but I think it just comes down to a few (or many) bad seeds who think that their wrong decisions mean less because they are shielded by the corporation. In the end, it's just the mob mentality that encourages people to steal and kill because "everyone's doing it," albeit in a less intense and more deliberate manner.

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    11. Re:2600 is still around by Malevolyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, it's almost as if they're betraying themselves. But I do see every issue as having at least one good article. The most recent one - as of this comment - has a great article about BitTorrent. Hacking stuff is all well and good, but I love the occaisional "road less traveled" style technology editorial from someone not famed in the journalism community. Someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

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    12. Re:2600 is still around by siskbc · · Score: 3, Interesting
      While I still believe in 2600, they really need to get back to their roots. Who cares if we alienate some newbies? If they are truely hackers as they claim to be (that title is so easy to come by these days), maybe it'll inspire them to do something other than read a how-to.

      As someone who's read 2600 on and off for going on 15 years, I like that they haven't felt the need so much to prove their l33t-ness by insulting newbies and making the material out of the reach of intermediate and even beginning hackers. What and when were 2600's "roots" to you? I don't recall a time when it was overly "stuffy," and it's always kept truer to the so-called "underground" - which if you don't recall was significantly populated by what we'd call "script kiddies" today.

      Put another way, if everyone has that attitude, then there are no new hackers. Some proportion of script kiddies actually grow up to be good hackers. Now that doesn't mean that the material has to be of the "where can I find a perl script to do X" nature, but making concepts understandable isn't a bad thing.

      Of course, 2600's increasingly political bent technologically irrelevant matters is another issue...

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  4. hmm we're too late. by huber · · Score: 2

    its already gone.

  5. If it wasn't dead already... by XFilesFMDS1013 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It seems to have been killed now...CONGRATULATIONS, you've slashdotted the body into its grave!

  6. Yes and... by ravenspear · · Score: 3, Funny

    It seems they have been using the same server since 1985.

    Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (11) in /var/www/phrack.org/htdocs/.config/phracksql_inc.p hp on line 106

    error: mysql_connect() failed

  7. I wrote by TheLeftist · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wrote Several articles for that mag when I was a wee youngster.. Mostly anarchy and drugs, and whatnot. Always liked the magazine. It was pretty funny when the Secret Service tried to prosecute the editor of Phrack.. They did a great job of demonstrating their ignorance of both computers and the law! The mag came a long way, then went a long way. To tell you the truth I wasnt aware it was still around..

    1. Re:I wrote by TommydCat · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Which editor, or all of them? :)

      I had the pleasure of meeting or knowing several of the editors and the wear and tear on their enthusiam was evident as the torch was passed. Today it seems hard to find like-minded individuals willing to take up the cause in the ether-sea of a me-too generation.

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  8. Re:heh.. by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You'd think they'd be a little more sentimental.

    Judging by the release rate of the last few years "apathy" on the part of the Phrack editors seems to be the order of the day, but that's perhaps a little unfair. There have been scores of papers published that would have been worthy of Phrack at its best in that time. The problem is that everyone writing such papers can just as easily create their own website and publish their works there. Why wait for what might be several months to see you work published for what little kudos being published in Phrack still has left and risk someone else stealing your fifteen minutes of fame?

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  9. Re:Coral Cache by tdvaughan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Too late. Coral got to it after the slashdot hordes and so was only able to cache its corpse :(.

  10. Great stuff for a long time by Prophetic_Truth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The way Phrack has presented security information with a sense of humor has always made Phrack an entertaining read. Even when the articles weren't funny, and were serious, the tone had already been set with the loopback section. It is sad that Phrack will no longer be something to look forward to.

    However, anyone who has followed Phrack will admit that it peaked long ago, and has slowly been going away. Phrack closing shouldn't be a shock to anyone. I'm glad someone finally decided to say 'it's over' rather than having one issue a year.

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  11. Powers of good and evil by HenryKoren · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hackers should use their powers for good, not evil. They should stop spending energy trying to break, take over, invade, infect, and steal from others.

    I completely understand the thrill that comes with probing a system for vulnerabilities. Hacking is a drug... it's a power trip to take control of another host. But that power comes with karma of the worst kind. Whether a hacker hurts an individual, a company, or corporation... their deeds are not any more acceptable. Even if they're smart enough to cover their tracks, they will be punished for their crimes.

    Fuck hackers! Fuck the hackers that shut down my companies when worms or virus compromised security. Fuck the hackers with their clusters of zombie machines running PsyBNC. Fuck every single one of them that constantly pound my servers with brute force attacks. Fuck'em all. Their time for comeuppance will arrive.

    If you want to hack: Go try to break a security protocol then publish a whitepaper on it. Track down a hacker and terminate their exploited host by contacting its admin. Go patch an open source project. Go make something of your own instead of just raping other peoples property. Don't destroy... create! Your life is a waste if what you do with it is evil.

    1. Re:Powers of good and evil by TooMuchEspressoGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Fuck hackers! Fuck the hackers that shut down my companies when worms or virus compromised security. Fuck the hackers with their clusters of zombie machines running PsyBNC. Fuck every single one of them that constantly pound my servers with brute force attacks. Fuck'em all. Their time for comeuppance will arrive." The sad thing is that those people aren't "hackers." There's no hacking involved in writing a virus or attacking other peoples' computers.

      Hacking, by definition, is attempting to figure out how something works. Hackers, therefore, are constantly curious - they never accept what they're told and always must find out if something is true for themselves.

      So, a guy who looks for security holes in software? A hacker. Someone who researches historical details to find out the truth of a certain event? Major hacker. A twelve-year-old kid who takes apart a Walkman to figure out how it works? Definitely a hacker.

      People like those you describe, therefore, are not hackers at all. They don't seek knowledge, for whatever end; they just want the infamy and script-kiddie-cred that come with making the lives of other people miserable. It is only the media, constantly seeking demons to vanquish, that paints these people as "hackers" without even knowing what the term really means. And it's people like you who, by furthering the stereotype, continue to give hackers a bad name by making them synonymous with criminals.

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  12. All-time Top 10 Articles by SlashCrunchPop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As someone who has not only read but also studied every single issue of Phrack I propose that in the very last issue they also publish the All-time Top 10 Articles List as voted by readers and I hereby nominate Aleph One's legendary article Smashing The Stack For Fun And Profit (Volume 7, Issue 49, November 08, 1996).

    So let's hear your nominations... Yes, I know phrack.org has been slashdotted (commiserations to John Kozubik of Johncompanies in San Diego), but that's the point - if you are a true diehard fan of Phrack you already have all the issues mirrored locally because you've studied them thoroughly.

    1. Re:All-time Top 10 Articles by zaffir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Graduate security courses? I read and understood (well, probably 90% understood) STS in highschool. And i'm far from being a genius. It's great, but not graduate-level complex.

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  13. Goodbye Old Friend by jfonseca · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In my early days I got papers out of HAL-PC BBS in houston, a chinese friend was the first real hacker I knew. Hacker in the truest sense, he understood every part of technology. Shortly after I found a reference to Phrack on one of the binary files he'd edited with a Hex dumping tool. That caught my attention but I had no access to Phrack. Years later as the web was born I remembered the name and got my issue of Phrack online, don't remember which one but was into the early 90's. Assembly language, phones, cool C "progz", Ascii art and UNIX when UNIX still had not a Linux offspring.

    I will not deny that this news comes as a bit of a shock. All things must end, therefore in a saddened state I say goodbye to you old teacher and friend. You will be missed.

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  14. A sad day by l0rd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember back in the day in 1996, one of the first things I did when I got my internet connection was downloaden phrack.

    I am really sad to see it go. The articles were way better than those in 2600, and it was well written and funny too.

    Seems that alle the good zines are gone or dying a similar death (Confidence remains high, B4B0, HUGI, Veracity and others). This seems to be the state of the hacker scene today as well. It's all become either commercial or totally lame.

    This is a sad, sad day for me as it doens't look like anyone else is starting a zine of comparible quality. Please for the love of god start something not meant for lame ass high school newbies with "safe", cool hacking "tutorials". Telnetting to port 25 is NOT advanced. Phrack, you WILL be misses :-(

    1. Re:A sad day by waynelorentz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      300 might have been more my speed.

      That's how I always read Phrack -- on a 300 baud connection to an upstate New York web site called OSUNY (Ohio Scientific Users of New York). My computer was 40-column and Phrack was 80-column, so I would print out each issue and save it in a binder along with the cDc g-philes.

      It's been a long long time since I cared about such things. Are there any good hack/phreak groups left? Who's teaching the next generation?

  15. Netcraft confirms. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 3, Funny

    It is official; Netcraft confirms: Phrack is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered hax0r community when IDC confirmed that Phrack market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all k-l33t readers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Phrack has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Phrack is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent International Blue Boxing Competition.

    You don't need to be an Erik Bloodaxe to predict Phrack's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Phrack faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Phrack because Phrack is dying. Things are looking very bad for Phrack. As many of us are already aware, Phrack continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    There can no longer be any doubt: Phrack is dying.

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  16. Re:heh.. by kjamez · · Score: 2, Informative

    well, i do get a little tired of reading this in bugtraq/securityfocus and then 10 minutes later seeing it on /. ... but here's my .02:

    the release i saw in bugtraq (i think, they all end up in the same folder) said they are going to goto hardcover and e-zine format ... which is (minus hardcover) is what they have been doing?

    (not trying to be a karma whore, the mysql died apparently on them:)

    in the email to bugtraw@securityfocus.com:

    ---- /snip
    Deadline: 10 July 2005 at 11:59pm
    http://www.phrack.org/cfp_final.txt
    ---- /snip

    Phrackstaff is please to bring you our LAST EVER CALL FOR PAPAERS for the FINAL RELEASE of PHRACK.

    We are preparing for a hardcover and ezine release at a major hacker convention near you!


    going on to say they'll keep the website up for two years after, "more about the decision in the release."

    one: i didn't know phrack HAD released anything in any real ammount of time recently. two: my mirror of phrack issues stops at 41, and is dated december 21, 1992. three: i always liked cDc better. different content, granted, but it was a much better 'publication' all together.

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  17. mirror dot by gr8fulnded · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not much, but here's mirrordot anyway... mirrordot front page

  18. Re:What's with the cover? by nomadic · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's the purpose of it, other than male sex appeal?

    I don't understand the question.

  19. Pass the torch - don't kill the tradition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The current "anonymous" batch editors have outgrown the zine. They were a bad choice to begin with, but regardless, that's happened to phrack before. On a regular basis. Every generation or so passes on phrack to the next. It's tradition.

    What's different about the current batch of editors was their intense arrogance and unusualy patronizing attitude towards the scene. Phrack hasn't been about the computer underground for years. The last ten years have turned Phrack into a prestigious journal for security research.

    The anarchistic underground roots of phrack have been whitewashed away by the latest batch of editors. Go and read the issues from 1980s, early 90s.

    The reason this happened was that when the scene moved to the Internet in the mid 90s the MIT hacker memes battled it out against "war games" hacker meme of the 80s. Hacker still has an 80s meaning for the general public, but the MIT hacker meme clearly won amongst the technically savy. The "cracker" and "script kiddy" memes were part of a process that turned Phrack's underground past into an embarrassment.

    So Phrack gradually turned against it's own roots. It's not for the hacker community by the hacker community anymore. Far from it. The current incarnation of Phrack actually spreads hypocritical anti-hacker memes between it's covers. It's BY $150-an-hour-security-consultants FOR our-reputation-in-the-security-industry.

    Phrack has been hijacked by sellouts.

    Aside from their snobbish elitist attitude, what have the recent editors of Phrack contributed? The articles are written by others. Try reading the "linenoise" section written by the Phrack editors sometime. Degrading newbies never gets old for these guys. Ha ha! you're all so stupid! We're so uber elite!

    So now what's happened is that these guys are so old school, so been-there-done-that, patronizing assholes that they've decided it's time for Phrack to die rather than evolve.

    Here's an alternative to killing off a 20+ year tradition: run a competition amongst would-be editors who can publish the best next issue of phrack. Then allow the PUBLIC to vote amongst alternatives as to whom succeeds the current editors.

    The team that manages to hack together the best edition of phrack 64 wins.

    Phrack is dead. Long live phrack!

    1. Re:Pass the torch - don't kill the tradition by YakumoFuji · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the difference is, rather than have your story in phrack when it appeared every now and then, everyone just blogs or posts thier article on the web and see it NOW rather than later...

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  20. Use web.archive, Luke by rekrutacja · · Score: 5, Informative

    Full content of website is archived at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.phrack.org /

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  21. EOT by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Informative

    At least 2600 is still up.

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  22. RE: using powers for "good" vs. "evil" by King_TJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm more or less with you on your comments, parent poster - but I also think it's wise to be careful talking about hacking in black and white "good" vs. "evil" terms.

    Like almost everything in life, there are complex shades of grey. It's fine to lecture people on how much better it would be for everyone involved if they broke security protocols on their own time and hardware, and then published "white papers" on what they found. But when you're a 15 year old kid, you probably wouldn't find any of that "interesting" at all. You aren't tinkering around with hacking/cracking because you wanted another "homework assignment" to take on. It's purely for the thrill and bragging rights to your like-minded buddies.

    I'm not saying this gives them "carte blanche" to go out and destroy other people's systems... But I guess what I *am* saying is, magazines like Phrack and 2600 started out (and thrived because of) the rebellious spirit of bored teens. Sometimes, the only way you'll really get people to find flaws in a product's security is by putting it in place and seeing who ends up breaking it in order to do something you see as "evil".

    Take those dial-type Master locks for example. Before kids were messing around with them, trying to figure out how they could "feel" the tumblers inside them click to find the combinations on them, most people assumed they were pretty secure locks. (Short of a bolt-cutters, you weren't likely to get by them.) After kids (obviously motivated by the "evil" desire to break into other kids' lockers in schools) leaked out the secrets to picking these things, and it got passed around the Internet, Master Lock, Inc. made improvements to the lock and started selling revised versions.

    I think we'd *still* be using an older revision Master lock today if we waited around for someone to put on a "white hat" and hack their own Master lock purely to "do good" by writing up a white paper on it when they finished.