agreed. my biggest complaint, as with everyone in the web dev world, is Internet explorer and the various things wrong with it. (namely having to support 2 "stable" versions and a coming 8, now in beta, which introduces all sorts of fun new quirky IE behaviors)
Until Opera gets developer tools AT LEAST on par with Internet Explorer (6), I find it very difficult to support Opera in any complex web interface. It also lacks proper ARIA support, and key handling.
And unfortunately, having four competing browsers is a slight headache. You have: Internet Explorer 6 and 7, and 8 coming with no hope of an end-of-life for 6 in the foreseeable future, Safari 3, though 2 still has a smidge of market share... Also, Safari on OSX !== Safari for Windows, so there is also that to consider. Firefox 3, and 2, and really you ought to support anything from 1.5 and on, though the high adoption rate of Firefox and Safari users helps there some, where you are always targeting the 'most current'... Count Opera 9, and immediately you have ten individual browser test cases, each with their own quirks and pains, some requiring a second (or third) machine (vm) to even test properly. So for each function, feature, and float, one has to load ten browsers. Brings new light to the beauty of unit testing.
The really brave stay up with Webkit nightly.
I love the fact stuff is moving so rapidly, but at some point supporting backwards compatibility becomes a burden.
I can't speak for Google on this, but I will say there is no bad about it. It is the job of the project to apply and coordinate all the happenings. I don't know if ReactOS even applied? If you are fond of ReactOS, I encourage you get involved, to contact the developers and to offer your time to apply for the SoC... (I don't know if they did or not, just saying)... Open Source really "works" when you actually get involved.
I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I have several machines and several monitors at my fingertips, pseudo-wrapped around. Information overflow and all that, but the point is: at least one of my machines / monitors has been idle for 10 minutes. Why not have a cool rss-reader widget that rotates incoming headlines while you are working? I am wholly disappointed with my screensaver options, and would love a 'dashboard' overview of stuff there. Keep it screen-saver-ish (moving, fluid, interesting, aesthetically pleasing..), and voila.
+1 to you, captain obvious. Here we have Google, paying a bunch of students for successfully contributing to Open Source. Some of those students will continue to contribute, and some may even become prolific Open Source community members. Win-win.
fwiw, file upload w/ jquery is nothing special. Any dhtml toolkit can do it. js2/emca is nothing that hasn't been discussed to no end already, and I miss how bringing jQuery into this even deserves a FYI.
exactly. Web 2.0 is just a buzzword/abstraction layer over top of the existing infrastructure that is the enterprise, and the web in general. Just because AJAX likes to put a lot of the computing client side, it doesn't eliminate the need for talented database maintainers, site admins, in house, techs, and all the other jobs that where there beforehand just to keep everything running. The only people at risk are web developers, being replaced by "new blood" with armed with a copy of jquery.js, even at which point would be a bad thing to start layoffs.
I finally cancelled both the net and the TV service. Now I use two different services (network and TV) and the cost is half as much for better service.
If you use ComTrash I recommend you consider your options.
unfortunately, in semi-rural east tennessee, Comcast is the only viable option for high speed. The alternative is Sprint, or a painfully slow version of Sprint DSL being resold through our local newspaper (who started as a dailup ISP in 93')... I would LOVE to get rid of HAVING to pay for tv service just for high-speed, i seldom ever watch the damn thing... but there is no alternative. i do the whole cell-with-no-home-phone bit, so DSL comes with hidden costs as well... and if you get any distance from our 'fine' city limits, DSL service goes to shit and cable is almost non-existant...
so, what exactly, again, are my options? but that's the whole point of all of this 'unlimited use' and 'capped speeds' and whatnot. you really don't have that many options, especially ATM.
The measure of success is whether the bug(s) found in Feb are new additions added by sloppy coders, or legacy bugs that have so far escaped notice?
i've been following this guy's postings on SF and bugtrac, and it's ridiculous. Some of the stuff he's finding are bugs in bugzilla from 2001 that keep getting shifted around and reassigned and marked as duplicates of other bugs... the remote file upload keypress trap example comes to mind, and was an interesting POC to say the least. Some of the stuff is trivial and only comes with 'theoretical exploits', but are still potentially dangerous none the less. I was just thinking yesterday "wow, this guy really has it out for mozilla..." but like you said, it's good someone is finding these things now as compared to a 'blackhat' 0-day'er. And it's even better they are getting fixed, delayed release and all.
This idiot was issued an order to produce evidence, he refused and his butt is in jail. And that is exactly where he belongs, for his refusal to comply with one of the most basic responsibilities attached to citizenship.
it's really not sooo mind blowing to me. i've actually reverted from using a personalized homepage to the default google.com search page on the premise that i *know* the url for any site i want to go to, but i loaded up my browser to *look* for something real quick. things like bookmarks and default portal homepages are good for people, even the sixpack people. its the spyware homepage hijacking that is bad.
I am glad you got modded insightful, but couldn't:
That's the big problem with the [gun|abortion|war|gayness|taxes debate]. There are very few people involved capable of a rational argument. They know what side they are on, and emotionally, irrationally argue in support of their position, summarily dismissing any information that does not help their cause, while seizing on any bit that seems to support it, no matter how flawed. ... be applied to almost EVERY argument/issue facing the world today? seems kind of generic. you should save it, and repost it any time there is any 'hot topic' up... boost your karma.
the sad state of affairs is that you are correct in your statements, and that such a statement can be applied to extremists on both sides of any topic.
i've been getting 200 or more spam's to my real address per day, and that's what is being MISSED by SpamAssassin (twice, once on the sendmail bit, and once when coming into the inbox)... i get another 100-150 in my 'spam' folder... Gmail (which i never really check) has pages and pages of 'unreported' spam... i just don't get it. it's out of control! i also setup a spamtrap email address on one of my sites, and have been getting 300 or more COMPLETELY unsolicited emails per day... i've been keeping them in a database (68000 emails to date) and wishing i was better at statistics and whatnot, it'd be an interesting graph (emails/day, type/day, etc.. etc..) how effective would training a spamassasin db from 68000 spams be?
If you'd bothered reading the article before commenting, you'd know that he thinks the feds want video footage to identify activists not involved in the arson of the car.
which is a valid concern, imho. why doesn't he just blur all the faces of everyone involved, give the tape to the feds, and say "ha! i told you there was no burning car!"
oh rest assured, we americans would put cameras up covering every square inch of land if we could... our land mass is just too great to practically implement such a thing... but i bet it's been talked about.
OT: but really, tell me there shouldn't be a one-time only +6 funny mod on THAT. every movie in existance could benefit from your tawgo program, but i would add one extra feature: -g to display semi-transparent text scrolling at ungodly speeds underneath said messages.
that's my point: in states with no sales tax (i lived in oregon prior to tennessee) it was super convenient, because the 4.99 price point meant that you could buy it with a $5.00 bill... not 5.49 after tax. and you have a response that says "some shops do that on a local level" but i've never ONCE experienced any store owner who would price things intentionally higher than their competitor(s) so they didn't have to do the math... that.99 is there for psychological reasons as we aren't trained to include the taxes in our purchases... no one *WANTS* to round prices and include the 9.75% tax because it completely loses that "less than a dollar?!?!?" appeal.
no, "cost" is business speak for "cost". "price point" is business speak for "sell price"... which, typically, is a percentage higher than "cost"... but, when things typically fall within a range of "costs", they all get the same "price point".
personally, i think "price points" should be strategically set so that local taxes and whatnot make the item an nice round number, instead of the "14.99 price point" which comes out to (here) $16.29... THAT is ridiculous. Make it an even $16.00 and i'll be happy, and oblivious to the ever increasing sales taxes my state like to impose upon us.
i'm not so clear on canadian rights and whatnot, but in the US we have this 'ammendment' that says we can SAY whatever we please... print whatever we please, ect, ect, this that and the other... and while it is all still a questionable subject here, i though you cannucks had a better grasp on the whole 'liberties' thing... to me, it shouldn't matter if he hosted or owned such a 'questionable' site, or content... did he commit crime(s)? is anyone tangibly hurt from his postings? where does it end? how liable is yahoo for it's random automated-make-your-own-website nonsense, where i am sure all sorts of hate material exists? bleh... ranting, sorry, but, really... c'mon?
It means something along the lines of "New Order of the Ages". It is used in various places (such as on our money) to signify the beginning of the American Era.
i don't know... even "new order of the ages" seems too much like "new world order"... "new order of the times" "new order for the world"... granted, the word "world" doesn't appear, but "ages" seems far more vague/broad... all i'm saying, is regardless of the literal translation of "novus orden seclorum", i feel like the meaning is not that far fetched from what the conspiracy theoriest suspect. did you personally ask the founding fathers WHY they used pagan and masonic symbols on our money? or annuit coeptis? "He [god] has favored our undertakings"... well, god being the sic, one has to speculate who He actually is in our society of seperate church and state.
for all we know, novus ordo seclorum is a long-standing inside joke about the inevitable end of democracy, a 'new world order', or 'new order or the ages' whichever way you prefer to interpret it.
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agreed. my biggest complaint, as with everyone in the web dev world, is Internet explorer and the various things wrong with it. (namely having to support 2 "stable" versions and a coming 8, now in beta, which introduces all sorts of fun new quirky IE behaviors)
Until Opera gets developer tools AT LEAST on par with Internet Explorer (6), I find it very difficult to support Opera in any complex web interface. It also lacks proper ARIA support, and key handling.
And unfortunately, having four competing browsers is a slight headache. You have: Internet Explorer 6 and 7, and 8 coming with no hope of an end-of-life for 6 in the foreseeable future, Safari 3, though 2 still has a smidge of market share ... Also, Safari on OSX !== Safari for Windows, so there is also that to consider. Firefox 3, and 2, and really you ought to support anything from 1.5 and on, though the high adoption rate of Firefox and Safari users helps there some, where you are always targeting the 'most current' ... Count Opera 9, and immediately you have ten individual browser test cases, each with their own quirks and pains, some requiring a second (or third) machine (vm) to even test properly. So for each function, feature, and float, one has to load ten browsers. Brings new light to the beauty of unit testing.
The really brave stay up with Webkit nightly.
I love the fact stuff is moving so rapidly, but at some point supporting backwards compatibility becomes a burden.
+infinity ... I don't use Pigdin / GAIM any longer, but your well-worded battle cry about prioritizing resources is key, and deserves mod points.
I can't speak for Google on this, but I will say there is no bad about it. It is the job of the project to apply and coordinate all the happenings. I don't know if ReactOS even applied? If you are fond of ReactOS, I encourage you get involved, to contact the developers and to offer your time to apply for the SoC ... (I don't know if they did or not, just saying) ... Open Source really "works" when you actually get involved.
I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I have several machines and several monitors at my fingertips, pseudo-wrapped around. Information overflow and all that, but the point is: at least one of my machines / monitors has been idle for 10 minutes. Why not have a cool rss-reader widget that rotates incoming headlines while you are working? I am wholly disappointed with my screensaver options, and would love a 'dashboard' overview of stuff there. Keep it screen-saver-ish (moving, fluid, interesting, aesthetically pleasing..), and voila.
+1 to you, captain obvious. Here we have Google, paying a bunch of students for successfully contributing to Open Source. Some of those students will continue to contribute, and some may even become prolific Open Source community members. Win-win.
fwiw, file upload w/ jquery is nothing special. Any dhtml toolkit can do it. js2/emca is nothing that hasn't been discussed to no end already, and I miss how bringing jQuery into this even deserves a FYI.
exactly. Web 2.0 is just a buzzword/abstraction layer over top of the existing infrastructure that is the enterprise, and the web in general. Just because AJAX likes to put a lot of the computing client side, it doesn't eliminate the need for talented database maintainers, site admins, in house, techs, and all the other jobs that where there beforehand just to keep everything running. The only people at risk are web developers, being replaced by "new blood" with armed with a copy of jquery.js, even at which point would be a bad thing to start layoffs.
him, and bill o'reily ...
...
bah
don't forget the dojo toolkit, http://dojotoolkit.org/
unfortunately, in semi-rural east tennessee, Comcast is the only viable option for high speed. The alternative is Sprint, or a painfully slow version of Sprint DSL being resold through our local newspaper (who started as a dailup ISP in 93')
so, what exactly, again, are my options? but that's the whole point of all of this 'unlimited use' and 'capped speeds' and whatnot. you really don't have that many options, especially ATM.
it's really not sooo mind blowing to me. i've actually reverted from using a personalized homepage to the default google.com search page on the premise that i *know* the url for any site i want to go to, but i loaded up my browser to *look* for something real quick. things like bookmarks and default portal homepages are good for people, even the sixpack people. its the spyware homepage hijacking that is bad.
whereas i typically use cat foo | grep that
...
doing something like:
> grep function\ thisFunction *.php
in a directory of source files will print the filename of the file where the grep matched, allowing you to know where the function or whatever is.
> cat * | grep function\ thisFunction
just returns the lines
... yeah, like that pain in the ass 'ps' command always TELLING you not to use the - ... those bastards.
i've been getting 200 or more spam's to my real address per day, and that's what is being MISSED by SpamAssassin (twice, once on the sendmail bit, and once when coming into the inbox) ... i get another 100-150 in my 'spam' folder ... Gmail (which i never really check) has pages and pages of 'unreported' spam ... i just don't get it. it's out of control! i also setup a spamtrap email address on one of my sites, and have been getting 300 or more COMPLETELY unsolicited emails per day ... i've been keeping them in a database (68000 emails to date) and wishing i was better at statistics and whatnot, it'd be an interesting graph (emails/day, type/day, etc.. etc..) how effective would training a spamassasin db from 68000 spams be?
which is a valid concern, imho. why doesn't he just blur all the faces of everyone involved, give the tape to the feds, and say "ha! i told you there was no burning car!"
oh rest assured, we americans would put cameras up covering every square inch of land if we could ... our land mass is just too great to practically implement such a thing ... but i bet it's been talked about.
OT: but really, tell me there shouldn't be a one-time only +6 funny mod on THAT. every movie in existance could benefit from your tawgo program, but i would add one extra feature: -g to display semi-transparent text scrolling at ungodly speeds underneath said messages.
that's my point: in states with no sales tax (i lived in oregon prior to tennessee) it was super convenient, because the 4.99 price point meant that you could buy it with a $5.00 bill ... not 5.49 after tax. and you have a response that says "some shops do that on a local level" but i've never ONCE experienced any store owner who would price things intentionally higher than their competitor(s) so they didn't have to do the math ... that .99 is there for psychological reasons as we aren't trained to include the taxes in our purchases ... no one *WANTS* to round prices and include the 9.75% tax because it completely loses that "less than a dollar?!?!?" appeal.
"Price point" is a business speak for "cost".
... which, typically, is a percentage higher than "cost" ... but, when things typically fall within a range of "costs", they all get the same "price point".
... THAT is ridiculous. Make it an even $16.00 and i'll be happy, and oblivious to the ever increasing sales taxes my state like to impose upon us.
no, "cost" is business speak for "cost". "price point" is business speak for "sell price"
personally, i think "price points" should be strategically set so that local taxes and whatnot make the item an nice round number, instead of the "14.99 price point" which comes out to (here) $16.29
i'm not so clear on canadian rights and whatnot, but in the US we have this 'ammendment' that says we can SAY whatever we please ... print whatever we please, ect, ect, this that and the other ... and while it is all still a questionable subject here, i though you cannucks had a better grasp on the whole 'liberties' thing ... to me, it shouldn't matter if he hosted or owned such a 'questionable' site, or content ... did he commit crime(s)? is anyone tangibly hurt from his postings? where does it end? how liable is yahoo for it's random automated-make-your-own-website nonsense, where i am sure all sorts of hate material exists? bleh ... ranting, sorry, but, really ... c'mon?
It means something along the lines of "New Order of the Ages". It is used in various places (such as on our money) to signify the beginning of the American Era.
i don't know
for all we know, novus ordo seclorum is a long-standing inside joke about the inevitable end of democracy, a 'new world order', or 'new order or the ages' whichever way you prefer to interpret it.