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Real Pays For Legal MP3 Playback On Linux

kforeman (aka Kevin Foreman, GM of Helix RealNetworks, Inc.) writes "As part of the free RealPlayer 10 for Linux, Real has paid Thomson for a legal MP3 playback license and then includes it at no cost as part of the newly released RealPlayer 10. As I speak to people, many are under the false impression that MP3 playback patent and royalty rights are free, since there are open source implementations of MP3 playback available. Not true. Nonetheless, we are glad to do our part of making the Linux desktop a first class citizen by legally providing MP3 playback to users via our new RealPlayer."

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  1. Strange... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "making the Linux desktop a first class citizen"

    Shouldn't that last bit read "corporate whore?"

  2. Stay away from Linux by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Real, all these operating systems are yours, except Linux. Do not attempt any loadings onto Linux.

  3. Re:MP3 Playback IS Free... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a sizeable difference between being able to do it and being able to do it legally.

  4. Real by DenDave · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Noble of them.. however we prefer to use non-proprietary stuff though.. So, ogg-vorbis is the way.. Now if Real were to use ogg in their commercial products so (and maybe challenge the ipod with ogg player hooked up to their online music store???) we wouldn't need proprietary licenses then we would all bow down and hail the penguin lova!

    --
    -if at first you don't succeed, stay the heck away from paragliding.
  5. Re:Distributions? by Nichotin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We" should be careful with bundling proprietary applications that are free to use. You end up using all the proprietary applications, and freedom will vanish. It will also slow down Linux adoption on other platforms if the applications people use are proprietary.

  6. Don't need a license for personal use anyway by sepluv · · Score: 5, Informative
    From Thomson's MP3 Licensing FAQ:
    no license is needed for private, non-commercial activities (e.g., home-entertainment, receiving broadcasts and creating a personal music library), not generating revenue or other consideration of any kind or for entities with an annual gross revenue less than US$ 100 000.00.
    That applies to decoding and encoding.

    Also, does anyone know were the patent on decoding is so we can check whether it is valid (in the USA--it is obviously invalid in the free (i.e.: non-US) world)?

    And, if you don't want to be sued, use a free and better lossy format (e.g.: Ogg Vorbis for music or Ogg Speex for speech).

    --
    Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley
    [This post is in the public domain (copyright-free) unless otherwise stated]
  7. oh well by indianropeburn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This still doesn't make Real Player a good choice for media playback.

  8. http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/mp3-licensing-faq.html by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Excerpted from the URL above:

    II.a) Software DECODERS

    *****

    Q. I wish to distribute a FREE MPEG Layer-3 software decoder on my WEB-site. Do I have to pay royalties?

    A. For the FREE distribution of decoders we do not charge a royalty. At the Fraunhofer IIS and OPTICOM web-sites you can find the players we have developed and which may be downloaded for FREE also. Fraunhofer IIS and OPTICOM do not give any technical support for the free players. Emails complaining about bugs in free software will not be answered!

    More in general, as long as desktop software decoders are distributed free-of-charge for personal use, no license fee is expected. However, in all cases we expect that MPEG Layer-3 products reference the licensors, like "MPEG Layer-3 audio compression technology licensed by Fraunhofer IIS and THOMSON multimedia".

    *****

    Q. And what if I sell the software decoder?

    A. In this case, the royalty per decoder is US $ 1,00. We just remark that we have not asserted our patents against decoders of which less than 10 000 units have been sold.