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Napster to Offer Movie Downloads

sebFlyte writes "silicon.com is reporting that Napster is going to move into legal movie downloads. They are aiming particularly to tap the younger video-game generation."

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  1. Move quick! You are the third to arrive... by IO+ERROR · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is simply good business sense to move into this largely untapped market, especially if you already have a platform for charging for and delivering digital content. Though they aren't the first; MovieLink and CinemaNow are already offering movies for legal download.

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    1. Re:Move quick! You are the third to arrive... by DrLZRDMN · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sorry, but in order to enjoy the Movielink service you must have Windows 98/SE, ME, 2000 or XP, which support certain technologies we utilize for downloading movies. We do not support Mac or Linux.

      To watch films on CinemaNow you will need the minimum of Microsoft Windows Media Player version 9
      No problem realy I wouldn't want ot pay the movie industry any more then the music industry.

    2. Re:Move quick! You are the third to arrive... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They haven't even departed, let alone arrived. They haven't even booked a flight, so to speak. From the article: "We are currently considering moving into video".

      Business as usual at slashdot. Inflating the news for a good headline. Napster has no partners or agreements in place, at least none that they're willing to go on the record about.

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    3. Re:Move quick! You are the third to arrive... by EnderWigginsXenocide · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You miss their target audience: They are aiming particularly to tap the younger video-game generation." Most of them are on Windows boxes, as they're more concerned with the latest games than they are about security and stability in their OS. If it plays the game they want to play they're down with whatever came with their computer (usualy Windows.)

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    4. Re:Move quick! You are the third to arrive... by Manchot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sorry, but in order to enjoy the Movielink service you must use Internet Explorer 5.0 or higher, which supports certain technologies we utilize for downloading movies. Click here to get the latest version of Internet Explorer.

      We do not support Mozilla or Netscape. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.


      I can't wait for the time when the IE-only sites realize that their usage has gradually been declining.

  2. I don't see the interest for this being too great. by Goronmon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Considering how much I dislike watching movies on a monitor, I doubt there are many people out there interested in downloading movies instead of renting or buying.

  3. Re:I don't see the interest for this being too gre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You don't like it so no one else will? Um, okay. Considering how many people download movies off of bittorrent, I think there IS a market out there.

  4. Movies and Video Gamers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Since when do movies have something to do with young video gamers? I mean, what are they going to be offering, Mario Bros, Street Fighter and Resident Evil movies for example?

    I don't know about you guys but Mario Bros movie was a hell of a movie.

  5. Movies are Shared Experiences by reporter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A movie is intended to be a shared experience in a social setting. Hence, DVDs and VHS tapes never wiped out the movie theaters even though the movie tickets are relatively pricey at $9.00 per pop. Even then, people tend to rent movies on DVDs/VHS tapes to watch as a group.

    After people watch the movie, they want to talk about it with their friends. How much fun is watching a movie by yourself?

    The only exception is pornography. Unless Napster intends that its service will be predominantly for pornography downloads, Napster will not achieve much market penetration (pun intended).

    Perhaps, Napster should offer a special deal: After 10 downloads, you receive a free jar of vaseline. <chuckle>

  6. Key word: "Considering" by schmidt349 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Original music download heavyweight Napster is considering remaking itself as a movie download site too."

    So let's see... no business plan, no decisions on DRM or encoding format or anything remotely technical, just the statement that it's being "considered..."

    Should this really be considered news? I mean, a lot of groups are looking at doing movie downloads...

  7. That Won't Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The article makes no mention of the quality of the downloads - DVD rip or VCD or something a little more compact, nor do they mention any DRM scheme to be attached. This isn't news yet, aside from a company saying they have a vague idea to take an idea already being done through BitTorrent effectively and charge for it.

    With the size of the movie files, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually implemented a distribution model like bit torrent to ease the server load. At 10$ per album, which could be anywhere from 50-100 Mb, for movies, cinemanow.com says its DVD quality. The amount of bits to required to generate half the money is astronomically larger than for the music equivalent. That, plus at least in Canada a number of cable/dsl packages aren't unlimited. 10 Gb down a month goes pretty fast, that'll generate alot of animosity from the unknowing public when they pay $3 to download but $30 to the ISP.

    Plus if its not a p2p system similar to bit torrent, then it will probably slow down as it gets popular, and have a reputation for being slow.

    I see this implementation of a good idea tanking.

  8. One in four people seems unlikley by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps I am wrong on this, but I would say tha statistic given in the article (not really backed by the link) that one in four people online have downloaded a film sounds rather high.

    I know it is spreading in popularilty, but even so I know very few people at work (for example) that even know what Bittorrent is, much less have downloaded a film!

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  9. Re:Not really a suprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    i would buy this if:
    1. i can burn it to disk
    2. play it on my home theater set-up
    3. the quality is as good as buying a factory pressed disk.

    add in lightscribe, not too shabby

  10. Does the market even exist yet? by allometry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since iTunes came out, I started paying for my music. I don't mind doing so, but it's easier to obtain from iTunes rather than hunting down files on news or torrent. But, downloading movies is a completely different realm.

    * Are there any decent portable movie players?
    * Can we burn our movies to DVD like we can burn our music to CD?
    * I have a Mac & PC, but for everyone here who lives on *nix, will there be cross-platform software?
    * Are we going to be downloading 4.6GB DVD's or compressed divx-like files? Also, how are you going to pay for all that bandwidth without killing your customers with additional charges?
    * Finally, what will be the selling point to downloading movies to your computer. Why not just go out and rent, or even yet, rent online through NetFlix or Blockbuster?

    These are all very valid points that need to be addressed before anyone tackles this. Napster has yet to do this and I see them headed for a bust.

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    1. Re:Does the market even exist yet? by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are there any decent portable movie players?

      Not really. e.g. MS Portable Media Center is only VHS resolution (320x240)

      Can we burn our movies to DVD like we can burn our music to CD?

      If so, don't expect to pay much less than the cost of a regular DVD.

      I have a Mac & PC, but for everyone here who lives on *nix, will there be cross-platform software?

      Of course not!

      Are we going to be downloading 4.6GB DVD's or compressed divx-like files?

      It's gotta be WMV9 or H.264 or VP7, which makes it a little harder to burn to DVD.

      Also, how are you going to pay for all that bandwidth without killing your customers with additional charges?

      By offloading the bandwidth cost to the customers (BitTorrent-style), of course!

      Finally, what will be the selling point to downloading movies to your computer. Why not just go out and rent, or even yet, rent online through NetFlix or Blockbuster?

      Owning != renting.

  11. Right direction, wrong step. by brasten · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some people like watching movies on their laptops, yes, but I would hardly call it a vast market. However, earlier commenters are correct: internet delivery of movies will eventually become mainstream.

    So what's the catch? I don't want to sit around for a few hours while my laptop downloads a movie, only to have to burn it to a DVD to watch it on my TV (or plug my laptop in to the TV, making it useless for anything else). What *I* want is the ability to browse, order, download and view movies from my TV.

    I think this is where TiVo, or perhaps and Apple/TiVo partership, would kick ass. Being able to buy and download a movie through my TiVo, and when it's ready, I can watch it all I want on the TV... or burn a DVD right there on the device. Or copy it to my laptop if I really want to watch it there.

    THAT'S the way to go.

  12. "Video game generation"? by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They are aiming particularly to tap the younger video-game generation.

    Is this some marketing term for the young kidz who like totally radical xtreme eye popping special fx at the touch of a button?!?!?!

    Are "video games" the mark of the young generation? Are these a target group for downloading movies? Right now, the generation that "grew up" with video games would be anyone 35 and under. So is the main feature of everyone under 35 that they like video games?

    What does any of this mean?

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  13. Cable companies will win by popo · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Ultimately the cable companies will be the winners here. They have a high speed digital cable running into a box which is attached to your TV.

    What more can you possibly say?

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  14. Re:I don't see the interest for this being too gre by rjelks · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think you're giving "torrent users" too much credit. All it takes is clicking the mouse and a download starts. I've heard a lot of people talking about napster, morpheus, kazaa, etc... that couldn't tell you what a zipped file was. Heck, I know people that use bittorrent and still refer to their monitor as their computer. People that downloaded music in Napster's golden days were made up of a pretty broad spectrum too.

  15. 1 Chance by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Napster is at a fork in the road. They have sold out, and every single person on the internet knows it, and their main competitor has a much higher "cool" factor than they do (ITMS).

    They get ONE chance to win our trust and our praise on this, and one chance only. They screw it up, and they will have paved the road for Apple to do it right, which they inevitably will.

    Napster needs to offer no DRM, fast downloads, no annoying and invasive advertising in the middle of the movies or anything, and a wide selection. If they can't do it, someone else will. Frankly though, I don't have much hope for them doing the right thing.

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  16. Re:I don't see the interest for this being too gre by KingArthur10 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only thing that I see as a requirement would be instant viewing of the movie. People download music from iTMS b/c they get instant gratification. Less than two minutes and you have whatever song you want. In order for an online movie buying business to work, they are goign to have to be able to play the movie well before it finishes downloading, and with decent quality on their TV. Otherwise, people will just rather spend the 3 hrs goign out to a rental place and purchasing a movie, or just get Netflix.

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  17. The Apple Stategy by Frogbeater · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the mac mini is designed as the machine that we hook up to our HDTVs (I currently have a modded G4 cube doing that for now.)

    And assuming (this might be a stretch) that the "Asteroid" box is really a HD video box (Jobs said it's the year of HD) and that my iPod Photo has the hardware already to play movies then Apple will have a perfect set of distribution/watch on HDTV/carry on iPod. A formidable concept.

    Apple is putting into place the exact pieces to create the iTunes store for movies. With Steves experience in the film business (Pixar) he already has more connections than he did with the record companies and now he has a track record, no, he has written the book on legal downloading.

    Napster is talking abut dilly-dallying around with the concepts that Apple is preparing the major groundwork for.