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Hurricane Electric Offers Bit Torrent Service

heypete writes "Hurricane Electric is now offering BitTorrent tracker/seeder services on behalf of paying customers. One need only upload the file desired to a specified directory by FTP, and their system will automatically generate a torrent file, add it to a tracker for that customer, and act as a "seed" to ensure that the file is available to downloaders. This could prove to be extremely useful for distributors of large files (such as Linux distributions), as bandwidth for the tracker and seeding services does not count against the bandwidth quota for the account."

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  1. What are they going to do by odano · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When somebody uploads illegal content?

    1. Re:What are they going to do by chris_mahan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Paying customers. So, name, address, phone number, credit card info. They would be stupid to upload illegal stuff.

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    2. Re:What are they going to do by strider44 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      why would it be a trap? You do know that there are files other than warez and tv shows that you want to distribute using bit torrent don't you?

    3. Re:What are they going to do by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Same as they do when anyone puts up illegal content on a website.

      The interesting point is that this could create a shining example of "good" P2P, for when they try to legislate all P2P out of existence as inherently evil.

  2. Legit by StevenHenderson · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This could prove to be extremely useful for distributors of large files (such as Linux distributions), as bandwidth for the tracker and seeding services does not count against the bandwidth quota for the account.

    You've got to love that everytime a new p2p program/service comes out, it is always explained as having legitimate uses.

    Everyone know that, sure, BT is great to share Linux distros, but in actuality, it will be used to share mp3s, divx rips, and pr0n.

    1. Re:Legit by ciroknight · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It would be a great way to distribute any commonly accessed data if set up properly, and with an ISP/Hosting provider with an assload of bandwitdh, BT could be set up as a kind of web-mirroring system, like Coral, only with BT as a back end.

      Such a system would be fast, and a huge advantage to consumers. Maybe google should check on it ;)

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  3. What should I do? by krazykong · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use Hurricane Electric as my web host. What kind of torrent do you think I should host? Maybe a linux distro, or some other open source project? I want to use my new torrent privleges to bennifit mankind somehow, any suggestions?

    1. Re:What should I do? by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know this probably isn't what you want to hear, but you should do nothing. Every major open source project already has a torrent, and having two separate torrents for a given file is worse than one.

      BitTorrent tracker hosting is not an exotic service, and the people who need it already have it. It's good for HE's customers that they're offering tracker hosting, but it's hardly a new thing.

  4. I know someone who could use it right now... by TexVex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mandrakelinux. I paid for and got access to their premium content, and just got through downloading nearly 12 GB of Linux distributions and premium software from them through BitTorrent. Unfortunately, it took about five days (and I have broadband). I expect a huge chunk of my downloads came directly from their seed(s) and there weren't enough, considering my download:upload ratio for the entire transfer was about 3:1.

    Maybe if they had more seeds, scattered around the globe, it would have worked better. As it is, I feel cheated; if I'm going to subscribe to their service for a monthly fee, it would be nice if they would use some of that fee to give me some good bandwidth to download their product. Hell, I'd seed (limited to 1/2 my upstream bandwidth) for them if they gave me a discount or a free upgrade in subscription level.

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  5. No... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Insightful

    BitTorrent does very well for legitimate content, and so long as they kick out clients who set up torrents for illegal content, there won't be any cause for lawsuits.

  6. Re:Heh by digitalgimpus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nobody ever argued the legality of the bittorrent protocol.

    It's used by quite a few software companies. Games for example, since they are large in size.

    A knife is a perfectly legal tool. It can cut us free when we are trouble, cut our food, or in the hands of a surgon can save lives.... it's when that knife is in the hands of a serial killer that it becomes illegal.

    No knives have ever been accused of murder. Only the person who intentionally uses it for the act.

    Same with bittorent. It never did anything wrong. It's users were the ones breaking copyright laws.

    Same for HTTP. Some use it for kiddy porn. But that doesn't mean Yahoo is illegal, or illegitimate.

  7. Re:Now only if they'll kick off their spammers... by fm6 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I worked at HE for about 7 months. We didn't exactly part on friendly terms, but I have to say that their reputation as a Spam hoster is quite undeserved. I worked in tech support, and a big part of my job was making sure that complaints about spammers got dealt with. Management had its flaws, but they did take the spam problem very seriously.

    Their big problem is they don't do a very good job of communicating their policies to other network companies and to spam blacklist maintainers. The communication effort is badly coordinated, and there's a certain short-sighted self-righteousness by key people, who hate the thought of sucking up to blacklist maintainers.

    The sad thing is that sanctions against HE mostly hurt their email customers. It doesn't hurt HE, which seems to have all the business it can handle. And it certainly doesn't hurt the spammers, against whom HE is already doing all they can -- and who just move on to another provider when they do get busted.

  8. Re:one solution by chill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a) encrypt/password-protect it, then
    b) upload it

    If you limit sharing to your friends, you're completely safe.


    You better have a lot of "friends". The whole idea behind Bittorrent was the more people using it, the faster it is.

    If you're just going to share encrypted warez with a dozen people, there isn't any benefit to doing it via BT than via FTP.

    -Charles

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  9. HE has been good to me by Infonaut · · Score: 3, Informative
    I've tried several hosts over the last few years, and have stuck with HE. Their help desk is on the ball, responds quickly, and knows their stuff. Their pricing is excellent, and they pretty much let you do what you want to on shared accounts. No wizards or extraneous b.s.. If you know what you're doing, HE doesn't get in your way.

    We've got something like ten accounts with them, and have never had any down time or other problems.

    No, I don't work for HE or have any affiliation with them. I am glad to spread the word about them because I've had several other accounts with hosting outfits that just didn't grok good service the way HE does.

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  10. Re:I confess - I don't really get torrents by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 3, Informative

    First, and I'm not sure about this, but I think Azureus trys to keep your ratio sane. That way, if you limit your UL to 1 kB/s, you can't download at 300 kB/s. After all, that's not very fair. Second, we're talking in kiloBYTES. I don't know of any dileup modem that can get 40 kB/s. Lastly, Unless you have a wicked net connection, I also don't think your wireless network is the bottleneck. You probably have an asynchronous connection, which means your ISP is giving you a shitty UP and fast DOWN. This configuration isn't optimal for BitTorrent, but it still should work. Your network should only slow down if its saturated, and even if you have "pathetic speeds", you may have already reached that point. I can only get about 25 kB/s of upload out of my pipe, and beyond that things start choking. Down AND up. This is on Comcast Cable, fyi.

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  11. Re:Doesn't seem to be any access control by Night+Goat · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would like to use these things for uploading digital pictures I take(what can I say, I'm a resolution whore), but I would rather the whole world not see my friend wearing a wedding dress with a giant Bart Simpson mask on.
    It would be neat if you could put a user name/password on the torrents. Not incredibly secure, but still better than nothing.


    Torrents work best if a lot of people are downloading/uploading. If you've got a picture that is only meant for a few people, it would make more sense to just upload the picture to the server rather than use Bit Torrent. That's probably why there isn't any access control. It wouldn't be any use to limit people when you want as many seeders as you can get.