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ZigBee Alliance Triples in Size

maxstreampr writes "The ZigBee Alliance just put out a press release talking about how they tripled in size in the past year. I know, I can see the posts already. "What up to 3 members now." There are actually 124 members and they have some huge players in Phillips, Freescale, Samsung, and MaxStream. Not too shabby." See this story from December for more on ZigBee; in short, it's a low-data-rate wireless standard "to enable wirelessly networked monitoring and control products."

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  1. What? by fembots · · Score: 5, Funny

    Up to 3 members now?

    1. Re:What? by ravenspear · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually 124.

    2. Re:What? by jon1012 · · Score: 2, Funny

      no... You're kidding ! ;) They are 5 now !

    3. Re:What? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Funny

      No shit?! But I bet they don't have any big players, say like Phillips, Freescale, Samsung, or MaxStream.

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    4. Re:What? by EverStoned · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, that's not too shabby. Do you know where I can get some more on Zigbee?

    5. Re:What? by Drakonian · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure thing. See this story from December.

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    6. Re:What? by gimpimp · · Score: 2, Funny

      story from december? pah! thats old news...you want the story from january!

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  2. Erm... Important how? by cato+kaze · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not meaning to troll, but exactly why is ANOTHER consortium of companies that are 'working towards' something news? It seems there are several hundred of these groups, and I dont see anything in the article that seperates this one or makes its goals unique. "working together to enable wirelessly networked monitoring and control products based on an open global standard" is not exactly the most descriptive goal in the world.

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    1. Re:Erm... Important how? by chris09876 · · Score: 5, Informative

      They've actually got some good whitepapers in MS Word format on their website. Look at the information section: http://www.zigbee.org/en/resources/

    2. Re:Erm... Important how? by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 2, Informative

      ZigBee is very cool technology, but the question any slashdotter has to ask is "where do they stand on open source?"

      Unfortunately, the answer is "someplace between Sun and SCO".

      They want several thousand dollars to license their protocol stack and they seem to be going down the same road to Hell as Lonworks.

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    3. Re:Erm... Important how? by Trogre · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...products based on an open global standard

      ...whitepapers in MS Word format on their website.

      I guess they're not too concerned with supporting open standards elsewhere...

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    4. Re:Erm... Important how? by lakiolen · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you want open source low-data-rate wireless mesh networking check out the http://www.tinyos.net/ and http://webs.cs.berkeley.edu/ websites. I can't say much that wouldn't be biased because I'm, how you say, an involved party, but it is completely open source (GPL) and anybody can contribute they're own code and if it is good it might even be used :).

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    5. Re:Erm... Important how? by lakiolen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      http://www.moteiv.com/ has a picture of the latest and (we like to say) greatest mote that is out there on their front page.
      http://www.xbow.com/Products/productsdetails.aspx? sid=3 also talks about wireless mesh networking hardware and software
      http://www.tinyos.net/related.html linked from PROJECTS USING TINYOS (caps not mine) under Community on the right hand side of the site lists a bunch of real projects using tinyos and mote hardware.
      http://www.tinyos.net/faq.html linked from FAQ under Help on the right again talks about what tinyos is.

      I think that's what you're looking for but if not let me know and i'll supply you with more info.

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  3. Real World? by MBCook · · Score: 2, Interesting
    So, is this out in the real world?

    I mean, sure there are products (they probably showed them at the recent CES). But has anyone actually USED anything that has ZigBee in it? Is there some product that's "easy to find" (not horrifically obscure) that's available? Has anyone used ZigBee it's self or developed for it so they could give us impressions of it?

    I mean it's interesting and all, but so was DataPlay (and we all know how many things with DataPlay we have in our houses).

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    1. Re:Real World? by LWATCDR · · Score: 2

      ZigBee is new. Also for what I read it is more for the embeded space.
      Remeber when there where no USB devices? Bluetooth is just now catching on. Give it some time.

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  4. What's with the name? by Albinofrenchy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not sayin' that the name is all that matters, but ZigBee's? That sounds more like a fast food restaurant then an entity that should be making standards.

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    1. Re:What's with the name? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Funny

      You want wireless fries with that?

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    2. Re:What's with the name? by jbrader · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know, how dumb can they be. They may as well call themselves something stupid like Apple or Yahoo or Google or...

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  5. What did they have before, 41 1/3 people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Generally if something triples in size you would expect the new number of people to be a multiple of 3.

  6. Call us back when... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...your product page has actual products, and doesn't say "Coming Soon".

  7. ZigggleMcBeeeeeee! by TheWordOfB · · Score: 2, Funny

    ZigBee, n, pronounced: Bluetooth.

  8. They're different by daveo0331 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I could try to explain the difference, but someone else already did in the article from last month, so I'll just link to that instead:

    http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=132 777&cid=11086941

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  9. Anything is better than X10 wireless protocol by Dark+Coder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I, for one, welcome the ZigBee overlord.

    X10 wireline protocol has its shortcoming when one uses in a dual-phase household (two sets of 112-120VAC in alternate AC phases). It mandates installing a capacitor to act as a bridge.

    Otherwise, one would have to have dual controller segment throughout the house.

  10. Zigbee Products are here by greencarp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've got a number of zigbee products in my lab for sensor net research. You can get them...

    http://www.xbow.com/Products/productsdetails.aspx? sid=101
    http://www.moteiv.com/

  11. Whatever by horza · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Another wireless attempt. I want to set up a Home Automation system, yet things don't seem to have moved on since 20 years ago. You have a few wireless options, which I'm not interested both for security and as I have a lot of appliances that generate a lot of RF. X10 is slow and unreliable. The Clipsal CBUS is a nice idea but a patented monopoly and stupidly expensive. There are some nice USB capture devices such as labjack, minilab, etc but Linux support is poor. There are embedded computers but those with Ethernet are too expensive. There are a few RS485 options though. I was hoping some XaP devices would appear, PIC based, but Xap has turned into some crap WinXP desktop app. DMX isn't appropriate really. I'm going to have to come up with some homebrew solution, currently thinking of using Micromint PicStic which appears better for home control than the Gumstix, but it's going to reduce the resale price of my flat if I don't use a supported off-the-shelf solution :-(.

    The state of HA today is a sad mess. I really am disappointed.

    Phillip.

  12. take off all zigbee by mekkab · · Score: 2, Funny

    For great justice!
    Move all zig! err, zigbee.

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  13. Most Zigbee devs will be "hidden" by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 3, Insightful
    While Bluetooth's niche is in PDAs and phones etc, Zigbee's is in low power / low data rate applications. This really makes Zigbee most appropriate for control comms between embedded devices, building automation etc.

    Zigbee should be way cheaper to implement than BT (say a buck vs five bucks), but that does not mean you'll see PDAs get Zigbee by default. Likely though your TV will get Zigbee and apart from being able to control its power intelligently it will allow you to control Zigbee devices via your TV/remote.

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  14. Word has it... by dj245 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...That the newly power-mad ZigBee Alliance wishes to expand even more by combining with the Consortium of Tral.

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