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Mozilla Roadmap Update

wikinerd writes "According to a recent roadmap update for Mozilla, the beta 1.8 version will be unveiled this month, while in the next month a second beta will be prepared. After the Beta2, Gecko engine 1.8 will be finished and it will power Mozilla 1.8, Mozilla Firefox 1.1 and Mozilla Thunderbird 1.1. The developers will then start working on Mozilla 1.9. Here are some nice graphics depicting the roadmap."

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  1. Re:What new features in 1.1? by eln · · Score: 3, Informative

    Most likely the primary feature will be the Gecko 1.8 engine. It seems to be the primary purpose for the release, and there may not be any other new features at all except maybe some scattered bugfixes.

  2. Re:What new features in 1.1? by goofyspouse · · Score: 5, Informative

    From http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/roadmap.ht ml :

    We are still working on goals for 2.0 and are drafting a PRD for its development. Some likely goals include:

    * Improvements to Bookmarks/History
    * Per-Site Options
    * Enhancements to the Extensions system, Find Toolbar, Software Update, Search and other areas.
    * Accessibility compliance
    * More ... ?

    (Note: placing an item on this list does not mean it will not be complete until 2.0, rather we would like to be done by 2.0, it may be implemented by 1.1, 1.5 or 2.0)

  3. Re:Composer? by Jack+Comics · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your solution is at hand. NVU is a multi-platform "spin-off" of Mozilla Composer, based on the Gecko 1.7.5 engine used by the Mozilla Suite and Firefox 1.0.

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  4. Re:Mozilla vs FireFox by temojen · · Score: 3, Informative

    Firefox is a browser. Mozilla is a Browser, Email reader, usenet reader, page composer, IRC client, and a few other things.

  5. Slashdot fix in 1.1 by TechnologyX · · Score: 3, Informative

    Before anyone evens grabs the oblig. "Yeah but it still can't display Slashdot right!!oneone!1" post, the fix is in the pipeline for 1.1. And it's a race condition with Firefox, not with /.

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  6. Re:What new features in 1.1? by davron05 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the Unofficial Firefox 1.1 changelog:
    New features
    * 245392 - Installer options for where to put start menu / desktop / quick launch shortcut icons.
    * 231062 - Provide Firefox MSI package.

    Major improvements

    * 124561 - Anonymous ftp login failure should prompt for username/password.
    * 98564 - Caret overlaps the last character in textfield (if positioned after the last char).
    * 151375 - Focus outline should be drawn outside of element.
    * 133165 - Focus outline should include larger descendants of inline elements.
    * 65917 - :active neither hierarchical nor picky about what can be activated.
    * 175893 - Make XUL 's focusable.
    * 20022 - :hover state not set until mouse move.
    * 276588 - Rework toolkit command-line handling. You can now open local files easily from the command-line (e.g. firefox.exe README.txt), and command-line switches should do the same thing whether Firefox is running or not.
    * 95227 - Make it possible to set different default font type (serif vs sans serif) for different languages.
    * 16940 - [Windows] IME is now disabled for password fields.
    * 151249 - [Mac] Middle click on link does nothing on Mac OS X (should open link in new tab).
    * 242845 - [Mac] Firefox disk image should use .dmg internal zlib-compression, not .dmg.gz.
    * 238854 - [GTK2] Changing GNOME2 theme doesn't apply until restarting Mozilla.

    And yes, they are also targeting the famous Slashdot rendering bug (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2175 27). Copy&paste the link to your browser since diredt linking to bugzilla from slashdot doesn't work.

  7. Re:But can it render Slashdot? by md27 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's actually a bug in Gecko that causes the mis-render, and it's fixed in the code that will be 1.1. I saw this on the burningedge 1.1 fix list.

  8. Where's the freakin' roadmap?? by amake · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you wanted to see the actual roadmap itself, starting at this /. article you had to wade through not one, not two, but three intermediate sites to get to it. Thanks a lot for not putting a direct link anywhere in the article, guys.

  9. Re:I hope they improve on the Mac version by Turf · · Score: 3, Informative

    The memory consumption issues kept me away from firefix for a long, long time. Whether on MS XP or GNU/Linux systems, the result was always the same: after a day of heavy usage, Firefox was slow, slow, slow. Memory consumption was always higher than any other program I used. As it neared the 1.0 stage, the memory usage became better. Not ideal, but better.

    Sorry I cannot corroborate your Mac usage, except state the same happens on other platforms.

  10. Re:Firefox security updates? by algae · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm using FireFox 1.0, and everytime i've seen a security hole announced, an auto-updater pops up within a day or so to install the hot-fix. It's a little green arrow right under the title bar.

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  11. Re:Safari Innards by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
    The rendering engine in Safari is WebCore, which is based on KHTML, from the KDE project. A large number of changes have been made by Apple, many of which have not found their way back into KHTML yet (because KHTML is understaffed and can't handle the merging, not because Apple is hoarding them). While it is similar to Gecko in terms of features, I have found that it has slightly better CSS support[1], and produces nicer looking[2] output for several attributes (I seem to recall that bevelled boarders being one of them, although I may be wrong).

    WebCore is open source, but it is written in Objective-C++ (core is C++, interface is Objective-C), which is currently only supported by GCC on OS X (mainly due to the size of the maintainers' egos). Once the main branch of GCC gets Objective-C++ support, it is probable that the GNUstep project will gain a WebCore based browser.

    [1] Not in any way an objective measurement, I've just found that a few CSS tags I've wanted to use have been supported by Safari but not by anything else including Gecko.
    [2] Again, 100% subjective.

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  12. Re:SVG? by wikinerd · · Score: 4, Informative

    About SVG: If you read my article on Mozilla 1.8 Alpha 6 you will see that I mention "Improved support for SVG". So, Mozilla 1.8 already has better SVG support.

  13. Re:And where does Sunbird fit into all of this ? by jbridge21 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ummmm, haven't you seen Evolution? Or is there some other reason that's not what you're looking for?

  14. Re:Graphical display issues by kryocore · · Score: 3, Informative

    Examples:

    The bluetabs template for Mambo CMS:
    http://www.mambohut.com/content/view/367/

    Slashdot

    It will hide results from this search tool, despite showing up fine in IE:
    http://windowssecrets.com/winfind/

    Anything with ActiveX or VBSCRIPT (not such a bad thing, but people will still complain about it)

    Windows Update - A very important site for any Windows user (not firefoxes fault, but this is still a disadvantage to illiterate users)

    Sites with the Invision Powerboard have been noted to display threads with lots of posts incorrectly.

    Some of these are no big deal, and there are just as many sites that IE displays incorrectly, but it will still be an advantage for IE if firefox displays the same site incorrectly, because people are switching FROM IE, not from firefox.

  15. Re:Graphical display issues by mopslik · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not a matter of whether you or I who are fully capable of finding what we need are able to workaround Firefox not working with Windows Update, it's a matter of whether "Cletus" from the sticks of Mississippi can figure it out.

    Why do you think you get the "You must upgrade to IE..." page when you visit Windows Update with FireFox?

    If the page wasn't handled correctly, you'd see garbage on the screen. Or an empty screen. Or half of a screen. Basically, you would see the elements that FireFox parsed correctly.

    What you're seeing on Windows Update is the result of a script that checks if you're using IE. If you are, it lets you access the main page. If you're not, it tells you to switch to Microsoft's browser. How does FireFox get past this? Clearly, it can't change the script on Microsoft's site. Should it use some fancy algorithm to try and decide which scripts it should ignore and which it should obey? That's opening a whole new can of worms.

    It's not an issue of FireFox displaying the page incorrectly. It's an issue of FireFox being blocked at the door.

    If you have an example of a page that displays incorrectly without such a limitation on it, then you've got something to discuss.