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iPod Shuffle RAID
ricercar writes "So, what do you do when you and some friends are all getting iPod Shuffles? You make a RAID array out of them, of course! The original intent was to actually install OS X on the RAID and boot from that, but the OS X (Panther, 10.3.5) Installer wouldn't allow it."
What would the boot times be like?
Wait, anyone know of any flash hard drives for PCs/Macs that work via SATA? This would be interesting to do, almost instant boot.
I don't think I could afford that without going to the ATM Machine and using my PIN Number to withdraw more money!
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
This and other hacks can be found at hackaday.com
"If it has screws, it was meant to be taken apart."
That is unfair. The Apple Store is sold out of them for weeks, and I can't buy one for my wife for Valentine's Day, and these guys have so many they are making a RAID with them.
:-)
Where is the justice?
And the best part is that every file request is randomized! You'll rediscover the data you already own and haven't worked with in years!
doing this with 2 normal usb key drives, a raid array with the striped data on them, you could save all kinds of secret stuff on them which would be useless unless you had both drives!
It could replace those security systems where 2 people have a key and there are 2 locks which must be opened at the same time for it to work.. just have 2 usb keys stripped, with a pgp key on them, which must be then inserted in to the security system at the same time for it to work or something
i dunno, im just spouting things!
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Sure you can make a RAID array out of anything but making one out of storage devices on a CPU-intensive polled bus is exceptionally ludicrous.
You could use it as a portable music player.
Oh.
Thanks to the RIAA, I want to avoid anything having to do with digital music players and "raids".
ok... I'm not usually a fan of moderation meta-humor, but this is a gem!
Whoever moderated this post "Redundant" is an evil, evil person...
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You catch enchiladas by picking them up behind the head and holding them underwater until they don't kick anymore -VeGas
That's hardly the right attitude from a supposed hacker.
When Solaris 10 wouldn't allow installation on my Ultra1, I hex-edited the ISO, reburned, and installed anyways (and that only took me one evening).
It's SOFTware for crying out loud! Show some initiative!
But this guy ate his iPod shuffle.
sulli
RTFJ.
Now that we can do a RAID Array, I want to see someone turn it into a beowulf cluster. Imagine the sound processing power we could harness by chaining 400 iPods together! Music listening would never be the same again!
:) Either that or a really expensive geek tracking system
:)
Ooh, ooh! I know! Setup an Uber iPod (uPod) add in wireless (wiPod? because!). If we got normal iPods with built-in wireless in the future, we could have one hell of a distributed computing network
Useless tech implementations rock
Can you make a raid array out of me, Greg?
can I mod you "not hugged enough as a kid"?
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Most NOR-flash is rated for at least 100,000 erase cycles. And some of the newer AMD flash devices have a minimum 1,000,000 erase cycle guarantee per sector. Even erasing the entire flash 100 times a day would give you about 27 years of life.
Tape? Hmph! Back in my day, we used punch cards! I was the junior operator, so they made me shuffle them. My forearms looked like Popeye's by the time I got promoted to lead assistant over-junior peon. No to mention the ferocious paper cuts! But no one was faster, no siree. I got 30 bytes a second on the read I/Os. Writes were a little slower though, because I had to punch the holes with a dull pencil.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
Brain: Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky?
Pinky: Yeah, Brain, but if we could get that many iPod Shuffles and set them up as a RAID device would we still be able to listen to music on them?
Brain: stares blankly at Pinky
I once made a RAID array out of Chinese guys working abacuses. The clacking drove me nuts, but boy howdy was I glad when one caught fire and the rest kept my SQL server going without missing a beat.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
Brain: Pinky, have you been reading Slashdot again?
So? You can make a raid array out of anything
Not out of expensive disks
Damn you had it easy. We just had punches back in my day. Our fists would get bloody entering in the simplest of instructions. And then, after every operation, we had to punch everything in again to check it.
"Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival."
--Dr.W.Edwards Deming
You had punches? Back in my day we applied the charges to the core manually. One finger in the socket...timing was everything! What's left of my hair still stands on end...
...carrier dead.....
The Shuffles kept returning the boot blocks in a random order!
Yeah, man, we don't want to hear about insane and pointless misuse of hardware unless Linux is involved!
Heh, OK, let's get round that by thinking of a use for this... in fact I know a good one.
RAID 5 your very sensitive data onto say 5 shuffles. Then unplug them and all five people take one each.
You then can't access the data on those sticks unless you are quorate - 4 or more people needed to mount the volume.
Hmmm, I was trying to think of an example of what to put on this and all I could think of was terrorist plans. Does this make it a bad idea?
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Of course I have no idea what one can do with a linux iPod shuffle.
You can impress the ladies with it.
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I now have this vision of 4 scruffy terrorists in a room, three iPods hooked in to the array and the 4th guy listening to some U2 track and going "what? What'd I do?"
-Charles
Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
- Hmmm, I was trying to think of an example of what to put on this and all I could think of was terrorist plans. Does this make it a bad idea?
How about corporate secrets? You know, like how the Coca Cola formula is supposed to be stashed in several bank vaults in Atlanta?If you have 1/5th of the data (plus parity) you can even duplicate your iPod Shuffle as needed to keep the data intact.
Just make sure that 4 out of your 5 all fly on the same plane or travel in the same car (or really, attend the same conference) with their share of the data.
You can also scale it up and down (4 drives needing 3 or 25 drives needing 24).
The only downside with RAID5 is that you can only lose 1 device, so with larger numbers you need a higher and higher majority of your group to unlock the data.
Another idea is to RAID the data and form a tontine using iPod Shuffles. It worked for Abe Simpson.
But wouldn't they want to know how to assemble an atomic bomb?
Sockets? You had actual sockets? What I would have given for a socket, we had to drop spanners across the bus bars!
If anybody goes "Spanners? You had spanners?" then I'm gonna lynch them.
How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex?
You had a cell? Back in my day all matter and energy in the universe was compressed into a point smaller than those tiny transistors you punk kids use as a sorry excuse for a switch! You can imagine it was pretty tough to program in that cramped enviornment, infact, that thing you people have misnamed the Big Bang was actully Lepton slacking off, he spun left when he was supposed to spin right, the whole thing crashed, that bastard.
You had a universe? Back in my day there was nothing. You had to be God to come up with matter and energy just to log in to the system first. Ever wonder why there are so many different variations on string theory? God used a buggy copy of Fortran to write those functions and never bothered to fix it since "the old way was good enough".
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