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Artists Against 419 Releases Mugu Marauder

An anonymous reader writes "Similar in scope to the (now defunct) screensaver created by Lycos that targeted spam sites, the newly-released Mugu Marauder is intended to take fraudulent bank sites off the air by sponging up their bandwidth. Mugu Marauder can be downloaded at www.aa419.org/mm/ It's currently only available for Windows, though a Linux port is allegedly in the works."

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  1. FP by michaelhood · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Beware of getting slammed by your ISP with a "friendly" letter, after consuming tons of bandwidth using something like this.

    1. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Great, instead of contacting the hosting companies involved we DDOS them. Most scammers use shared hosting (usually signing up with a fraudulent credit card) and hence any such attacks can affect the whole server taking out hundreds of web sites, and even a whole subnet if network traffic is high too.

    2. Re:FP by BlkSprk · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can set how much of your bandwidth it uses. I uncapped it and im pulling some 376 KiB/S... im having fun testing bandwidth

    3. Re:FP by andynz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A lot of the 419 sites use cheap or free hosting services. The goal of these tools is to exceed the allocated bandwith of the site, and possibly to make the hosting companies take notice. Every site targeted has already been brought to the attention of the hosting companies involved. If they cannot be bothered doing anything about it they should be prepared for the consequences.

  2. Ha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why not just post a link to them on Slashdot.

  3. Yay (*sigh*) by n0dalus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once these sites get hit they redirect the dns towards legitamate services and change addresses.
    So this will probably just end up DDoS'ing the real banks instead of the fake ones, these fake banks move around a lot and create extra damage in their wake as a result of something like this.
    Fighting fire with fire just doesn't work like it should.

  4. another dumb idea by RMH101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just like the Lycos screensaver that strangled spammer's bandwidth by not-quite-DDOS-ing them, this is a stupid idea. Legally you'd be opening yourself up to all kind of problems running this kind of thing: ISPs don't tend to take to kindly to this sort of denial of service attack.
    It's not sexy, or headline-grabbing, but the correct way to go about this is the same as it's always been: go after the ISPs to pull their accounts. If they're RFC-ignorant, add their IP blocks to the usual blacklists until they comply or are connected to an intranet.

    1. Re:another dumb idea by ForestGrump · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The idea behind AA419 DDOS is that the hosting providers have been either unresponsive or unwilling to pull their accounts.

      The extreme measure is to consume the alloted bandwidth to the account and thus take the fake bank offline.

      Grump

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      Is it true that more people vote for the winner of American Idol, than vote for the president? -Ali G.
    2. Re:another dumb idea by maztuhblastah · · Score: 5, Informative

      As an actual member of 419eater, I feel compelled to feed the troll, or at least respond to it. As it stands, we have code that spiders the sites and checks if a bandwidth limit exceeded page has been reached. When it has, the hitlist is updated to no longer have that target on it. We have yet to have a hoster tell us we're DDOS'ing them...mainly because we have never, and will never DDOS them. We only try to exceed the bandwidth limit, not knock out the server.

      -maztuh

  5. Linux/unix version by CvD · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Copy & paste the sites that are listed on the front page of the link in the article into a file called sites.txt, each on one line, and then run the following command:
    while true; do wget -q -i sites.txt --delete-after ; done
    A daemonized version shouldn't be that hard to write, just have it parse the URLs on the front page out every day, and re-run wget on the new list.

    Happy marauding...
    1. Re:Linux/unix version by fire-eyes · · Score: 4, Funny

      For more fun use the -U flag for wget, passes the string on as the referrer.

      Such as:

      -U "SLASHDOTTED 1.0/A"

      -U "AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN HEY FUCK YOU"

      -U "[insert long string here to flood logs]"

      etc.

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      -- Note: If you don't agree with me, don't bother replying. I won't read it.
  6. Lad Vampire by apikoros · · Score: 5, Informative

    I like this, but prefer the lad vampire at the same site. There is something somehow more satisfying about watching the images flash by.

    Just put it in a browser tab and let it run!

  7. Gee, thats great by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Vigilante justive via DDOS. Well, that won't set a horrible precedent for people knobbling the web site's of those they don't like. Who's next? Radical pro-life groups DDOS'ing websites with abortion information?

    (Yes, I know this has a slippery-slope element to it, but there are plenty of activist groups out there willing to be vigilantes, because they believe their actions to be either unambiguously moral, or divinely inspired.)

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    1. Re:Gee, thats great by gowen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or that. It was an example, not and exhaustive list. Would you like me to have enumerate *every* possible example?

      In short, I'm merely pointing out that accepting certain types of anti-social, vigilante behaviour (DDOS) *only* because we belive in their cause (hurting scammers) leads us very difficult moral ground when people with whom one does not agree use the same tactics.

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      Athletic Scholarships to universities make as much sense as academic scholarships to sports teams.
  8. Think about it. by Sheetrock · · Score: 4, Insightful
    One successful 419 scam (where they soak some victim for hundreds of thousands of dollars) will pay quite handily for one of these fake websites, DoS or no DoS.

    On the other hand, the rest of us pay thrice: once for the victimization of regular people not yet wise to this game, once for the waste of bandwidth because of the huge amount of spam being sent out for this scam, and now once for do-gooders pumping loads of worthless data back through our shared Internet at these websites, which are replaced faster than they go down.

    On the surface it looks like a good idea, but it's just adding to the damage like all these other vigilante anti-spam tactics. A better technical solution already exists; switch from e-mail to instant messaging within a company and save all your instant messages.

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    Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
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    1. Re:Think about it. by macshit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A better technical solution already exists; switch from e-mail to instant messaging within a company and save all your instant messages.

      You've got to be kidding...

      That's like switching to pogo sticks because you're afraid of car-jacking.

      How about instead: (1) use less brain-dead mail clients, and (2) educate your employees so they're not (quite) so brain-dead themselves. The advantage of being a company is that you can actually do these sorts of things.

      [I know, I know, some companies demand brain-death. I suppose it's pogo sticks for them.]

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  9. Leave well alone by mattbee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't care who you're or how pretty the screensaver, just don't download programs for network abuse like this and expect your ISP to take it lightly. If you really want to take action against a phising site, call the ISP hosting it and complain to them. Same principle, less innocent parties affected along the way. If you don't get a response from that ISP, call the ISP further upstream... this is how we deal with network abuse; it's slow but it's legal, and it works.

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    Matthew @ Bytemark Hosting
    1. Re:Leave well alone by Pastis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've just done it yesterday and they closed the account within minutes.

      See here: http://support.beamhost.co.uk/helpdesk/view.php?ti cketid=6360&auth=8f64e9b4

      The site is probably going to reopen somewhere else. But I've probably spent less time than it takes for them to reopen it.

      What's needed is a program that automates that.
      You feed it an URL and the program automatically search for a contact email (e.g. abuse@) and prepares an email for you to send.

      Then as most phishing sites are introduced by spam emails, the process could be automatized further.

      Just process the mail. The phishing site is found, and the email server (probably an cracked/virused/wormed machine) is identified and the ISP of that machine is identified as well.

      Shouldn't be hard to do...

      Can be done by a central server or on the mail client. The phishing detection is already there in Thunderbird. Just need to use it to report it. Otherwise let's do that centrally, which has the benefit of having a single code base for the processing.

      Free Software should be there to show the way. Who said we cannot innovate?

  10. Why a binary? by eddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    >It's currently only available for Windows,

    Why? I once saw a webpage that did this using only javascript. A simple page reload would give you updated arrays of images which your browser then loaded over and over and over again to exhaust the spamvertized sites bandwidth.

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    Belief is the currency of delusion.
  11. This is just an insanely stupid idea by October_30th · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Similar in scope to the (now defunct) screensaver created by Lycos that targeted spam sites

    And will probably work just as well... vigilante justice never works and should not be tolerated.

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    The owls are not what they seem
  12. Please somebody DDoS them. by Kickasso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    aa419.org, that is. They apparently think it's legal and acceptable, so they won't complain.

    1. Re:Please somebody DDoS them. by cliffy2000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They're on Slashdot's front page. Isn't that cruel enough?

  13. Apparently... by Tuxedo+Jack · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It assigns a UID when the installer is run.

    Each one is something like this:

    620ad934fc97bebb65f77bc883211351

    That makes me wonder - just what does each one represent?

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    Striking fear in the authors of godawful fanfiction, I am here, appearing in darkness, Tuxedo Jack!
  14. Spamming back the scammers? by Serious+Simon · · Score: 5, Interesting
    What about a program that enables you to automatically send fake responses to a 419-scam e-mail, using different FROM: addresses and variable contents, so they cannot be easily identified as such?

    Imagine a 419-scammer sitting in an internet café in Lagos, getting thousands and thousands of mails appearing to be from people genuinely interested in the proposal, and having to follow up on them all just in case one or two are from real persons...

  15. Block list by blackest_k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It makes far more sense for a centralised block list, regularly updated, hosted by a reputible body.

    A small change in functionality to your web browser so that when you attempt to connect to a site on your blocklist. your browser informs you and the reason why and then asks you if you want to proceed anyway.

    its a much more economic use of resources and could be added to by local police agencys as victims become known or perhaps a phishing notify button added to our browsers.

    when we wander upon a site thats dodgy that url can be passed on to the hosts of the blocking lists, a site would be verified to prevent malicious use and if checked out as being ok, it wouldnt be reexamined till a certain number of other referals took place.

    No waste of bandwidth, no denial of service attack on any site just a hazard warning in your browser that the site may be harmful.

    perhaps the banking sites might even care to host such a list.

  16. Re:Is this by DaHat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Probably not.

    It's kinda like stealing pot from a dealer, chances are, he's not going to report the theft.

    Regardless of what is worse, 419ing of DoSing, both are bad and both are illegal, and just like copyright infringement on P2P, people will try to justify it "it's not like I am going to pay for it anyway" and "they already have enough money".

  17. They released him? by famebait · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean to say Artists Against 419, after finally capturing Dr. Mugu Marauder, are now releasing him?

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    sudo ergo sum
  18. As always the "experts" assume too much. by mugu_marauder · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is nice to know that the IT industry is full of experts who fail to do the first thing when presented with something new..... Try researching things guys. 1. The Mugu Marauder operates exactly the same as a web browser repeatedly refreshing with no cache on a specified list of target URL's (normally images because they typically have a large filesize compared to HTML pages). 2. The UID number generated for the application is used to tally stats for individual users, so just drop the paranoia. 3. FFS The sites targetted ARE NOT related in any way to legitimate banks. As I said if you did a little research before sprouting your "me too" crap you might realise just EXACTLY The Artists Against 419 are fighting against. 4. A DoS attack is defined as the act of deliberately trying to make a service on the attacked machine unavailable by flooding it with requests, sometimes using deliberately corrupted data packets. Now, I dont know where you tool come from or whether you sympathize with cyber criminals or are simply too dense to comprehend ths. We are downloading images from *CRIMINAL* fake banks after having tried to contact the hoster and shut down these *CRIMINALS* in vain at least two times or mopre. Then, and then only, do we actually start trying to deliberately exceed the allowed bandwidth of these *CRIMINALS*, so they cant use their bogus banks to prey on unsuspecting victims. It is *NOT* an attack on the servers, but on the *CRIMINAL* websites only.

  19. Dear Sir by Flakeloaf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Verizon Subscriber:

    I am Dr. Muntange Dwambo, the nephew of the director of your internet service provider's Accepatble Use Enforcement division.

    It has come to our attention that you are consuming an unusual amount of bandwidth. I am therefore here to give you a one-time opportunity. My uncle has recently passed away, and left me in control of THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND GIGABYTES PER MONTH of bandwidth. Unfortunately that bandwidth is only available to Verizon subscribers, and that company does not yet offer their services in my native Nigeria.

    --

    Am I the only one who heard Roxette to sing "I'm gonna get blitzed for some sex"?

  20. Pointless again... by Da+Web+Guru · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course, this will have no real impact on taking down phishing sites. The people that set up most phishing sites follow these simple steps:

    1) Find a vulnerable server and root it, or get just enough access (through something like a phpBB exploit) to upload a phishing site to the right directory. They will end up with a URL that probably looks like "http://aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/online/wamu.html". Phishing sites don't bother with mundane details like DNS or domains (waste of time and energy) because the URL will be conviently hidden with javascript by your favorite HTML email client anyway.

    2) Repeat the above step as often as you like to have a "cluster" of phishing sites.

    3) Send out tons of spam advertising the phishing sites, randomly picking one of the above URLs to use for the login page.

    4) By the time the phishing sites are detected, reported, and disabled (could be as long as a week or two or four), hundreds of people could have attempted to log into each of the fake login sites.

    5) In most cases, the owner of the server being used for the phishing site is completely oblivious of the phishing site. (The rest of their web sites are working fine, so why should they be aware of any problems?) DDoS'ing them will only attack a confused victim.

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    --guru

  21. anonymous by glassesmonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seems to me that filling their dB with useless information would be more effective. (Increasing the victim to fake ratio). These forms are where they are actually taking bank acct numbers. Taking their bandwidth is s temporary band-aid when they are opening webhosting accounts for free, or at most $5.

    Couldn't someone make a bookmarklet or javascript to fill forms with fake info? Here are some of the forms they use to get personal information.

    http://www.raboswiss.com/housec/ACCSETUP.HTM
    http://www.swissroyallbank.com/onlinebanking/getst art.php
    http://www.kashbankcorp.com/contact_us.php
    http://www.alphapbonline.com/aibb/online_servces.h tm
    http://www.alliance-ctb.com/ebank/apply.asp
    http://www.libertystrongholdgroup.com/aindex.html
    http://www.fichnet.net/contact.php