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Do it Yourself BSD Daemon Wall Flag

An anonymous reader writes "Everyone knows the BSD Beastie. There are T-shirts, bronze Daemons and even boxers with him on them. Well now there's a page describing how to make a BSD Daemon wall flag without using fabric printing!"

69 comments

  1. wow by cooley · · Score: 1

    It's cool, but I'd never, ever have that kind of patience.

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    Just then the floating disembodied head of Colonel Sanders started yelling Everything You Know Is Wrong!-Weird Al
  2. Then all you need to do is chmod 666 by fm6 · · Score: 2, Funny

    And you can sleep with the devil!

    1. Re:Then all you need to do is chmod 666 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could anyone please tell me that this site is only more subtle than Landover Baptist but it is still not serious? Please? They even sell t-shirts: "LOL - Love Our Lord!" for god's sake! LOL indeed.

  3. Just in time! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As NetBSD has changed its logo, and FreeBSD announced a contest to change theirs. Are there mow separate "Logos" and "Mascots"? Can a portrait of Kirk McKusick be put on a flag?

    Of course there is also a Blowfish and a Firefly.

    --
    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
  4. Will your mom? by bluGill · · Score: 3, Informative

    That guy (gal? I can't tell from the photos) didn't either, he had his mom do it.

    1. Re:Will your mom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      from the looks of him... he prolly has him mom do everything....

    2. Re:Will your mom? by HitScan · · Score: 1

      Except cut his hair!

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      HitScan
    3. Re:Will your mom? by tuxnduke · · Score: 1

      I'd just print it.. http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/

  5. Very nice! by Otter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Well now there's a page describing how to make a BSD Daemon wall flag without using fabric printing!

    Unfortunately, her advice is "Have your mom spend months hand-stitching it!", which may not work for everyone.

    1. Re:Very nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "her advice" ? I thought that was a dude!

    2. Re:Very nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was, he says on the page "long hair does not make you female"

  6. loyalty by mabu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You know you have a good product when someone spends 250+ hours to create an homage to it. I wonder if anyone ever has done something like that for Microsoft?

    1. Re:loyalty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get the impression Bill's mom is much of a seamstress.

    2. Re:loyalty by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Over time, I dare say that most windows users will waste 250+ hours rebooting Windows and dealing with spyware.

      Not quite an homage, but quite a sacrifice!

  7. Boxers with HIM on them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want my boxers to have HER on them.

    --
    No, not printed.

    1. Re:Boxers with HIM on them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand the obsession with her, average looking girl if you ask me.

    2. Re:Boxers with HIM on them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I don't know about you, but I'd take an average-looking girl in PVC over a pudgy Finnish guy any day.... :-)

  8. Couldn't you have brought a poster? by Alpha27 · · Score: 1

    Would have probably costed you less than the materials, and you would have had in like a few days.

    1. Re:Couldn't you have brought a poster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There speaks america.

    2. Re:Couldn't you have brought a poster? by BossMC · · Score: 1

      Yes, let's fucking buy everything instead of being creative.

  9. Cross Stitch by Sparr0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This method is known as cross stitching, and its pretty easy to find software to plan it out. If you plan to do it on a smaller scale you might want to consider techniques for producing stitches that look the same (no ugly lines) from both sides, which about quadruples the stitch planning complexity.

  10. I Never Though I'd See The Day... by DLWormwood · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ...when cross-stitching warrant's a /. article.

    Not that I'm all that innocent myself. When I was about 10, I had a fixation with graphing paper, and frequently made video game and vector graphic inspired artwork and board games using it. My Mom was going through an "art-and-crafts" stage at the time, and suggested I make a computer themed cross-stitch pattern for her. So, I made a desk layout of an old style hobbist computer with about a dozen peripherals attached and she made it for me. I had it framed and it decorated my room until I went to college. I really ought to dig it out of my parent's attic, photograph it and post it online somewhere some time...

    --
    Those who complain about affect & effect on /. should be disemvoweled
    1. Re:I Never Though I'd See The Day... by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      ...when cross-stitching warrant's a /. article.

      Clearly they need another /. section for `Ask Mum' (or perhaps `Mom' for you wierdoes over there).

      I mean, take some of the the current front page headlines:

      Gates Blackmails Danes ``I blame the parents letting them play with that rough Gates boy'' Night Vision Scope ``You should be in bed anyway'' Annodex ``Shouldn't you be out in the fresh air?'' Wave Energy ``Wave goodbye to grandma'' Data Stolen ``I told you to look after it!'' Linux Cat Feeder ``I knew you'd get bored and I'd end up having to feed and clean up after it'' Phone with iTunes ``What do you want with that, you have a perfectly good phone, and if you'd have kept up with your piano lessons...''
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      The named which can be named is not the true named
  11. Mod parent up! It's f*ckin' funny :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you can sleep with the devil!

    Mod parent up! That link is f*ckin' hilarious.. I didn't know about it, thank you so much for posting it
    And the whole site is well worth a tour. If there's one thing I'm sorry for is that I'm too lazy to list here all the things that cracked me up :D
    --
    Requiem for the FUD

    1. Re:Mod parent up! It's f*ckin' funny :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What should I see there? I get redirected to http://www.web1000.com/ :(

  12. Hmmm.. by biglig2 · · Score: 1
    There are T-shirts, bronze Daemons and even boxers with him on them.

    Heck, there's even a competion to replace him... oh.

    Actually, if you know someone who's into this sort of art and crafts, you can probably commission them (with 50 free support incidents, perhaps) to make something nice for you. Tux or an apple logo, for example.
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    ~~~~~ BigLig2? You mean there's another one of me?
  13. Lessons from the Grave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    What We Can Learn From BSD
    By Chinese Karma Whore, Version 1.0

    Everyone knows about BSD's failure and imminent demise. As we pore over the history of BSD, we'll uncover a story of fatal mistakes, poor priorities, and personal rivalry, and we'll learn what mistakes to avoid so as to save Linux from a similarly grisly fate.

    Let's not be overly morbid and give BSD credit for its early successes. In the 1970s, Ken Thompson and Bill Joy both made significant contributions to the computing world on the BSD platform. In the 80s, DARPA saw BSD as the premiere open platform, and, after initial successes with the 4.1BSD product, gave the BSD company a 2 year contract.

    These early triumphs would soon be forgotten in a series of internal conflicts that would mar BSD's progress. In 1992, AT&T filed suit against Berkeley Software, claiming that proprietary code agreements had been haphazardly violated. In the same year, BSD filed countersuit, reciprocating bad intentions and fueling internal rivalry. While AT&T and Berkeley Software lawyers battled in court, lead developers of various BSD distributions quarreled on Usenet. In 1995, Theo de Raadt, one of the founders of the NetBSD project, formed his own rival distribution, OpenBSD, as the result of a quarrel that he documents on his website. Mr. de Raadt's stubborn arrogance was later seen in his clash with Darren Reed, which resulted in the expulsion of IPF from the OpenBSD distribution.

    As personal rivalries took precedence over a quality product, BSD's codebase became worse and worse. As we all know, incompatibilities between each BSD distribution make code sharing an arduous task. Research conducted at MIT found BSD's filesystem implementation to be "very poorly performing." Even BSD's acclaimed TCP/IP stack has lagged behind, according to this study.

    Problems with BSD's codebase were compounded by fundamental flaws in the BSD design approach. As argued by Eric Raymond in his watershed essay, The Cathedral and the Bazaar, rapid, decentralized development models are inherently superior to slow, centralized ones in software development. BSD developers never heeded Mr. Raymond's lesson and insisted that centralized models lead to 'cleaner code.' Don't believe their hype - BSD's development model has significantly impaired its progress. Any achievements that BSD managed to make were nullified by the BSD license, which allows corporations and coders alike to reap profits without reciprocating the goodwill of open-source. Fortunately, Linux is not prone to this exploitation, as it is licensed under the GPL.

    The failure of BSD culminated in the resignation of Jordan Hubbard and Michael Smith from the FreeBSD core team. They both believed that FreeBSD had long lost its earlier vitality. Like an empire in decline, BSD had become bureaucratic and stagnant. As Linux gains market share and as BSD sinks deeper into the mire of decay, their parting addresses will resound as fitting eulogies to BSD's demise.

  14. That poor guy's mom!! by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 2, Funny

    The last paragraph is priceless:

    It took my mother about 330 hours of work sewing the Beastie

    I hope he gets her something for Mother's Day.

    --
    There are 01 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary, and me.
    1. Re:That poor guy's mom!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, like a cross-stitched flag with a superimposed Beastie...

  15. Same old FUD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same old GNU/Linux FUD, that has been disproved countless times...
    In short: the MIT research is *11 years old*, and that Rice study on the TCP/IP stack uses FreeBSD *2.2.6*

  16. The Daemon Is Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It is now official. Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  17. Requiem for the FUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    // Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx

    ... facts are facts. ;)

    FreeBSD:
    FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
    "FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
    Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
    "[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
    What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
    "FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

    NetBSD:
    NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
    NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

    OpenBSD:
    OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
    Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

    *BSD in general:
    Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
    "The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
    ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

    --
    Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

  18. I can see people lining up now... by feorlen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like this bunch has enough patience to stick out even one of those kiddie plastic canvas projects. 700+ hours of hand stitching over five months. And the guy didn't even do it himself, that I would be impressed about it. He got his Mom to do it.

    I have to suppress the urge to throttle people when co-workers think they are being cute with "Nice hat you got there, would be swell to have a new sweater. By the way, I wear a size Large." They complain about paying $25 for something at Wart-Maul but think I'll be thrilled at the suggestion I take six months to spin and knit a one-of-a-kind custom garment for them?

  19. Auction that puppy!!! by bergeron76 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I bet you would make a boatload of quid if you auctioned that thing on eBay (the USA one is probably the biggest market).

    And then make your mother make you a new one. ;)

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    Don't think that a small group of dedicated individuals can't change the world. It's the only thing that ever has.
    1. Re:Auction that puppy!!! by evilviper · · Score: 0

      I don't think you could possibly recoup the cost of the work. At 330 hours, you'd have to get about $2,000 USD for it, to have earned minimum wage making it, not even counting the cost of materials...

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      Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
    2. Re:Auction that puppy!!! by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

      You don't think it would sell for more than $2,000? There are some very wealthy BSD fanatics out there.

      Now I'm very curious as to just how much it would sell for.

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      Don't think that a small group of dedicated individuals can't change the world. It's the only thing that ever has.
    3. Re:Auction that puppy!!! by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      330 for just the beastie logo, the total flag took a bit more:
      "so all in all it took her 720 hours of work to complete"

      basically 1 persom month to sew, this was definitely a labor of love, or insanity... materials cost was inconsequential compared to labor, 31 euros, or about $38 at current exchange rates...

    4. Re:Auction that puppy!!! by WoodenRobot · · Score: 1

      If you want it to go for a lot, put it on eBay after using a toaster to burn a picture of the Virgin Mary on it.

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      "I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing and it was everything that I thought it could be."
  20. wow by Mr.Coffee · · Score: 3, Funny

    "she just opened the picture with gimp"

    dude, your mom uses gimp? she sounds way hot.

    --
    Cogito Eggo Sum, I think therefore I'm a waffle
  21. Hard Times for *BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    When it comes to the subject of operating systems, most of us can agree on at least one thing, and that is the simple plain truth that *BSD is dying. But the deeper question is why? Why did *BSD fail?

    Once you get past the fact that *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. *BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but why? Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players? Or is it larger than their troubled personae?

    The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shroud over a once hopeful *BSD community. That hope is long gone, replaced by an inconsolable despair. A mournful, plaintive nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.

  22. Put up a picture of your mother! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lady deserves a moment enshrined in the spotlight, doing what mothers do best, sacrificing for their children, loving them.

    Hats off to you mom! You rock! (That means you are great).

  23. Site slashdotted, here's a cache link by kiore · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Site slashdotted, here's a cache link by fm6 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Those atheistic "geeks" used their evil "slashdot effect" to bring down a Christian web site!

  24. Typical.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Typical BSD/Open Source person.

    Let someone else slave away and do all the hard work for you, then take it without paying for it.

  25. This is amazing. Here's a mirror: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Evolutionism Propaganda Article by Dr. Richard Paley

    The subject of Evolutionism's use of propaganda to spread its false doctrines is a broad one that would require many pages to deal with in full. That they resort to propaganda is just evidence that they have no honest arguments in favor of their position. The paucity of pro-Evolutionistic arguments has been widely documented and I won't go into it here.

    What I would like to discuss are some prominent and current instances of Evolutionism propaganda: The PBS's series Evolution, the use of subliminal Evolutionism, and Evolutionism's place in the computing industry.

    PBS's "Evolution":

    PBS (supposedly the "Public Broadcasting System" although one has to wonder which public they serve with all the anti-Christian junk they put on) is currently airing a new series called simply Evolution. This series (running for eight nights, at two hours a night) is nothing but a commercial for Secular Humanistic pseudo-science.

    Darwin questions God's existence from the bowels of the Beagle...

    ...while above deck, Capt. Fitzroy is mockingly portrayed reading the Bible aloud to the crew.

    Thus far, the first episode (called "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" -- at least they are honest in the title) was a melodramatization of Charles Darwin's life. Darwin is portrayed as a sympathetic character who is attacked by ignorant Christians for his "revolutionary thought" which he is shown likening to "confessing a murder" (again, another slip of honesty). All those who historically questioned and pointed out flaws in Darwin's ideas are portrayed as villains: Richard Owen, Bishop Samuel Wilberforce, Captain Robert Fitzroy of the H.M.S. Beagle -- all are made into unrecognizable cartoons whose only purpose is to act as foils for the noble Darwin and his crusade against Christianity. Even God himself is turned into a villain; at one point in the episode they had the audacity to blame Him for killing Darwin's daughter!

    Interspersed with the costume drama were talking heads explaining to us why Evolutionism is the One True Way. These included some doctors and biologists -- one of whom openly expressed the religious nature of his belief in Evolutionism -- whose names I can't remember as they were unnotable persons in the scientific community. Daniel Dennett, a philosopher who wrote a polemic also called Darwin's Dangerous Idea , was on hand to tell us in no uncertain terms that Darwin's ideas excluded the need for God. Needless to say Stephen Jay Gould made an appearance, although he did thankfully refrain from talking about baseball this time.

    The episode also included "real life examples" of Evolutionism to try and convince us that it is a real science. One of these was -- and I am not making this up -- a primatologist who taught some chimpanzees to "count". Supposedly this proves that we are a monkey's uncle. Another example used was AIDS. They argued that AIDS is constantly evolving and if it weren't for Darwin we wouldn't understand why and thus would be helpless in treating the disease (they conveniently neglect to point out that Darwinistic propaganda equating us with animals might have helped to spread the disease in the first place). This is a common false argument made by Evolutionists; the random variations of AIDS is not the same as the transmutation of species that Darwin wrote about and that is the basis of Secular Humanism. All those little changes aside, AIDS is still AIDS. Show us AIDS evolving into a cat -- which is essentially the Evolutionistic position of common ancestry for all lifeforms -- and then you'll have something worth noting.

    Remember, this was all in only the first episode! We still have seven more to go -- or fourteen more hours of this (PBS doesn't even allow us commercial breaks to help us regain our sanity!). One can only

  26. BSD is Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Subject says it all.

  27. Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by ulib · · Score: 1

    I know it's goddamn off-topic, but this has to be said:
    Luckily, it *is* a fake. :)

    Yesterday I fell for it. Then today I googled for "Fellowship University" (where the anti-evolutionist wacko allegedly teaches) and found nothing. So, I found proof that it's a fake - albeit extremely well done!!

    I don't feel so bad for falling for it, since the great James Randi fell for it as well! But he soon corrected himself (here and here)

    Btw, The JREF website is totally cool. A great resource to debunk all the quackery of our time (from parapsychology to homeopathy).

    --
    Requiem for the FUD

    1. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by fm6 · · Score: 1
      If there's proof that this is a hoax on the site you linked to, you'll have to point me to it. All I see is a bare assertion, based on the name "Paley".

      The fact that you can't find any mention of "Fellowship University" means nothing. It's probably an unaccredited school with a "campus" in somebody's church.

      When this site was first mentioned on Slashdot, about 3 years ago, I spent some time googling the people mentioned on the site, and they all seemed to have a pretty big presence in the anti-evolution community, with lots of essays "proving" that evolution is bogus. All of it thoroughly ignorant, but much to detailed to be a hoax. It's lame, of course, but by the standards of crankdom, not that lame. There are a lot of self-taught "scientists" out there.

      I don't feel like digging up this material again just to argue with you, but you can probably find it yourself if you look.

    2. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by ulib · · Score: 1

      I don't feel like digging up this material again just to argue with you

      I definitely don't need you to do it..
      As i posted in a correction, the link I attached to the word 'proof' was wrong. The actual proof is here.

      To sum it up: this is the members page as it is now, and this is what it was (it's stored in a cache site). The faces of the members were obviously edited (compare the eyes, especially. Arguably, they did it in order not to use the face of some actual people). This pretty much proves that the whole website is a fake.

      OTOH, I totally agree that the anti-evolution movement is a reality (sadly). It's enough to look at what happens in some schools, as the CEO of the AAAS (the association that publishes Science) is denouncing.

      --
      Requiem for the FUD

    3. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by fm6 · · Score: 1
      The manipulations may be obvious to you. They're not to me. Perhaps if you pointed out specific pictures you thought had been manipulated.

      The guy who wrote the museumofhoaxes page seems to think that the hoaxer is this this guy. If he spent 5 minutes reading the guy's web material, he'd realize that he's quite sincere, though not very bright.

      Also, note that the OBJECTIVE web site was originally hosted by a Christian hosting company. Not a logical place to host a spoof!

      Finally, notice how OBJECTIVE is distributing this banner demanding that the Landover site be shut down. I can't believe a spoofer would come up with the slogan "He didn't give His life to be mocked!", no matter how mock-serious he was trying to be.

      It's pretty easy to "prove" that something on the web is bogus. You pick at little inconsistencies, and you ignore the contrary evidence. I've been accused of being a non-existant person more than once. The last time was on Slashdot, where I had a story accepted gushing about a new TV show I was enthusiastic about. Several people "proved" that I was a pseudo-person invented just to plug the show. Never mind that already had a couple thousand Slashdot posts in my history!

    4. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by ulib · · Score: 1

      The parts which were obviously manipulated (see before and after) are:

      Dr. Andrew Miller - eyes
      Peggy Miller - eyes
      Timothy Allmon - eyes (if you can't see this one, the problem is in *your* eyes :)
      Dr. Troy Franklin - hair
      Jose Rosas - mouth
      Fred "Skeet" Hoskins - eyes

      This is a pretty exhaustive proof that the website is a fake.

      --
      Requiem for the FUD

    5. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by fm6 · · Score: 1
      Look at the pictures side by side. The "after" pictures are not manipulated versions of the "before" pictures -- they're different pictures. These people are vain as hell (excuse me, heck) and probably get new head shots every week.

      Even if you convinced me that for some strange reason (vanity?) somebody was manipulating these pictures, that's really not proof of anything. What settles the issue is the actual content of the site. Move away from the standard conspiracy "proofs" and look at the site as a whole. There's just too much long-winded, solemn nonsense that a satirist would never have to patience to generate. And even if they did, they'd try to make more of it funny.

      This is just one of those lame stories that some conspiracy freak put out there, and that everybody passes on without checking the facts for themselves. It's up there with the sewer alligators and the dead bodies embedded in Hoover Dam.

      Now excuse me, I'm late for my Illuminati meeting.

    6. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by javaxman · · Score: 1
      The parts which were obviously manipulated (see before and after) are:

      As much as I actually did think the site was a fake ( wishful thinking ) after being told it was, I have to agree with fm6 that you've made a very weak argument here. Timothy Allmon's eyes? If that's an image manipulation, it's a bang-up job. I mean, they got the eyebrows looking very, very natural, even. It really looks like just a different head shot.

      Most intriguing to me are the links http://www.biblecodedigest.com/ and banner adds on that site...

      Anyway, I'd be happy to see other evidence that this is a fake site, it's just that religious nutballs are nutty enough, it's hard to tell if they're serious or not.

    7. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by ulib · · Score: 1

      As much as I actually did think the site was a fake ( wishful thinking ) after being told it was, I have to agree with fm6 that you've made a very weak argument here.

      "A very weak argument".. Am I the only one *not* blind here?
      For christ's sake, have a decent look at the two pictures before talking (one and two). The *only* difference between them is a manipulation of the eyes (which don't belong to the same person, it's quite evident) and of the colors. *Everything else* is exactly the same: look at the mouth, the nose, the hair, the tie. The pics are based on the same head shot.

      I stopped answering to that other guy because I came to the conclusion that he was simply trolling. Now I don't know what to think.. is it a troll festival, or is there an epidemy of impaired eyesight?..

      The manipulation *proves*, exhaustively, that the site's a fake. A brilliant satire, if you ask me - since sadly there are too many religious nuts asserting such things for real - but still a fake (luckily).

    8. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      Look at the pictures side by side. The "after" pictures are not manipulated versions of the "before" pictures -- they're different pictures.

      You must be blind. They're obviously doctored. Do a google search for "Fisherman's Quandry" (sic) and "Fisherman's Quandary." There's no game theoretic problem in the literature with that name for "Diamond" Jack to solve. There are a ton of other glaring factual errors and inconsistencies.

      They sell thongs in their online store, for shit's sake.

      --
      After all, I am strangely colored.
    9. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1

      Please see this thread. There's a fairly exhaustive list of reasons to believe this is a fake/hoax/whatever. Basically almost everything on the site turns up blanks - there are no churches, universities, math problems, high schools, etc. by the names cited therein.

      If you can provide even a modest piece of evidence for their existance, please do so. There have been a few legitimate evangelical and anti-evolutionist types who have cited or discussed the essays, yes, but they don't seem to have any idea what the hell Fellowship University is or whether these guys are for real either. Thus the pretty obvious conclusion that it's a hoax.

    10. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NetBSD:
      NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004) [slashdot.org]
      NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004) [netbsd.org]


      Requiem for the FUD, eh? Let me hold a little requiem for your FUD...

      Linux currently holds all the internet land speed records (ipv4 single stream, ipv4 multi stream, ipv6 single stream, ipv6 multi stream).

      How do you like them apples?

    11. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't seem to know what FUD means.
      So, calm down, and then please point out *where* exactly you think the message was not accurate.

      The message never stated that NetBSD was the *current* record holder. As the record history shows, the record is broken every 3 months or something. Heck, between the 2 NetBSD records, it even belonged to Windows for some months. So, kudos to Linux, but I'm not sure that who's the *current* record holder actually means a lot.

      I really suggest you look up "FUD" in a dictionary. That would be an educational experience.

    12. Re:Luckily, it *is* a fake. :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't seem to know what FUD means.
      So, calm down, and then please point out *where* exactly you think the message was not accurate.


      That's a laugh - you most definitely don't know what FUD is if it hit you in the face. FUD does not have to be false, subtly misleading facts are a far better form of FUD (from the POV of the fudster) than a blatant lie.

      The message never stated that NetBSD was the *current* record holder. As the record history shows, the record is broken every 3 months or something. Heck, between the 2 NetBSD records, it even belonged to Windows for some months. So, kudos to Linux, but I'm not sure that who's the *current* record holder actually means a lot.

      It means that BSD zealots have one less idiotic avenue to try to point out that their network stack is the best.

      I really suggest you look up "FUD" in a dictionary. That would be an educational experience.

      I suggest you lick my anus, you imbicile.

  28. Sorry, wrong link by ulib · · Score: 1

    The proof is here! Sorry.
    It shows how the faces of the members were "edited".

  29. bsd.ee by ElDuderino44137 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The long hair may not make him a female ... but it certainly does make him an ugly male.

    Cheers,
    -- The Dude

  30. Bad timing by cmad_x · · Score: 0

    Well someone will have to get back to sewing when the new logo is out. Definitely bad timing.

  31. this is a stupid troll thread by frost22 · · Score: 1

    Oh well. All links (except those in the sigs of the perpetrators) in this subthread lead to porn sites (usually through a combination of redirects and javascript). even the waybackmaschine page has js embedded to this effect.

    stupid trolls.

    --
    ...and here I stand, with all my lore, poor fool, no wiser than before.
    1. Re:this is a stupid troll thread by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Still works for me. Perhaps your browser has been hijacked.

    2. Re:this is a stupid troll thread by frost22 · · Score: 1
      Still works for me. Perhaps your browser has been hijacked.
      Perhaps. That would have to be a truly ingenious hijack, though - since it only applied to this exact subthread, only on slashdot, and only to the links in the text, not those from ./ or even those from your .sig. Marvelous. And it's the first hijack I'm aware of that works with Mozilla 1.7.5..

      Oh, and that subthread-on-slashdot-and-only-your-links hijack now right now doesnt go to a sex site any more but - after some redirects - to the front page of web1000.com, containing a stern warning about child porn reported to law enforcement.

      But wait - that hijack is even more ingenious than you thought! It also has infected trusty old wget on my trusty old BSD box (boy, do I want to hire that hijack programmer)
      me@myhost 3:21 [~/test] wget -nH -nd -vv http://objective.jesussave.us/propaganda.html
      --0 3:21:52-- http://objective.jesussave.us/propaganda.html
      => `propaganda.html'
      Connecting to objective.jesussave.us:80... connected!
      HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Object Moved
      Location: http://www.web1000.com [following]
      --03:21:52-- http://www.web1000.com/
      => `index.html'
      Connecting to www.web1000.com:80... connected!
      HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
      Length: 21,204 [text/html]

      0K -> .. [100%]

      03:21:53 (24.71 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [21204/21204]


      Unfortunately I failed to make this kind of precise records of the situation a few hours ago. So I can't demonstrate exactly what popped up those (German, btw - apparently IP address targeting works) sex sites on my screen.

      OTOH, you seem to be one of the trolls. I probably HBT. So, yeah, have a nice day, too.
      --
      ...and here I stand, with all my lore, poor fool, no wiser than before.
    3. Re:this is a stupid troll thread by ulib · · Score: 1

      ??
      I also linked to randi.org and aaas.org. They're hardly porn sites...
      I don't know why the "jesussave" website redirects you - apparently it also happened to another poster - but anyway that "web1000" thing doesn't look like a porn site either.
      --
      Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

  32. So that equates to: by fallscrape · · Score: 1

    £3240 that could have been earnt cleaning turkey corpses at the local Bernard Mathews plant in the UK.

    --
    http://www.neobard.info - wacky world of me
  33. it's a guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From roughly halfway down the page:
    This is me holding it up. I'm male, long hair does not mean I'm female!