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Kyoto Protocol Comes Into Force

Cally writes "The controversial Kyoto Treaty regulating CO2 emissions finally comes into force today. The BBC has several stories and backgrounders, and notes that international pressure is now mounting on the USA to take action as well, as the scientific consensus is well established. A key question is whether the US economy will benefit relative the rest of the world, with some arguing that new technologies such as clean power generation and energy efficient appliances will provide an economic boost."

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  1. Slashdot Poll: by EmagGeek · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Which of these ranked sources of greenhouse gasses should be eliminated first? Options are ranked in decreasing order of their contribution of greenhouse gases to the atmosphere:

    1) Volcanoes
    2) People Breathing
    3) Cows
    4) Chickens
    5) Rice Paddies
    6) The USA
    7) Cowboyneal's Farts

  2. Kyoto Treaty don't make me laugh. by nberardi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Does anybody in this forum actually realize that humans produce CO2 by breathing? Or is it just me? I heard yesterday on the BBC that China and India hadn't joined yet, and they are predicted to product the most CO2. So I guess if they want to join Kyoto they need to start killing people, since they are the two largest nations in the world, population wise. I am just kidding on that last part, but really there is no solid evidence about CO2 actually cuasing global warming.

    There really isn't any evidence of global warming at all. Because inorder to do a _valid_ study you have to have a control group. (i.e. a pervious full cycle of the earth to measure it against, if I remember my earth science right it's about 23,000 years) So you are telling me we are killing the earth when it has survived molton lava and being iced over?

  3. Re:'gain a relative economical advantage'.. by vvaduva · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's a starting point.

    A joke is a starting point?

  4. Re:'gain a relative economical advantage'.. by DerWulf · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    meanwhile the americans will still be driving regular cars and paying next to nothing for the gas. Of course, we 'enlightened' europeans will be even more heavily burdend by taxes that subsidize the clean energy technologies while at same time paying high prices to use them. To top it all off, in 10 years climate research will show that this is the end of natural warming period with an ice age to follow. The delicious irony of seeing european greens drive their 100.000 solar cars around on the iceshelf that then will cover all of northern europe will entertain me until I die.

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  5. Re:'gain a relative economical advantage'.. by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    ...here's a bit from a speech given by Michael Crichton...

    Sh! Don't you know that celebrities' opinions only matter when they are left-leaning? That Crichton has quite a bit of scientific knowledge is irrelevant: no-one on the right can possibly be correct! Didn't you get the memo?

  6. Re:Bush and Kyoto by demachina · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "I don't know if you're American"

    Damn you are a rocket scientist. If you weren't completely clueless you might have deduced that he is most probably Canadian, though American education is so dismal in things like basic Geography you probably don't know where Toronto is.

    "You're not worth proof reading"

    People who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. Apparently your own posts aren't worth proofreading either.

    For example, WTF is a "Tornato"?

    In general your post is rambling gibberish. Try working on coherent, complete sentences, that actually make some kind of point. It certainly looks like you were educated in America.

    Me I'm not a pedant like you so I don't care if there are typos in BS slashdot posts but maybe you should stop ranting about proof reading when you apparently don't proof read your own posts.

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  7. Fuck Kyoto by ShagratTheTitleless · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The Kyoto treaty is about one thing: Punishment of First World Nations.

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  8. Re:True Doublethink is a reality by demachina · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "If you break it down to raw physics, how much energy does it take to heat at 1 acre/foot of water 1 degree celcious. Light is easy to produce, energy of the amount the sun or even the earth produces is beyond our foreseeable grasp."

    Man you are thick. The problem from all the gas flaring isn't the heat produced, its the voluminous quantities of CO2 it produces. CO2 is a green house gas, which increases the propensity of our atmosphere to trap the Sun's heat and as you said yourself the Sun showers the earth with lots of HEAT. The fact that man is adding CO2 and methane to the atmosphere on a continuing basis is almost certainly contributing to increased trapping of the Sun's heat, increasing the Earth's temperature. Get it yet?

    Another illuminating example of Man's capacity to alter our climate, which is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is ozone depletion. Its an amazingly good example because it too is caused by human activity releasing gasses, chlorofluorocarbons, in to the atmosphere, not huge releases, but billions of tiny releases by aerosol cans, refrigerators and air conditioning leaks. If we had taken your approach, denial, and hadn't banned the problem gasses we might well have destroyed the ozone layer that shields us from ultraviolet radiation and we would have all died and taken much of life on this planet with us.

    "I will, but I recall a Syrian actually being an enemy combatant. I do plan to look into this as I really would like to see what came of the trials."

    Here is one transcript from a man who was in the famous nude pyramid. He was an Iragi civilian being held for theft/looting and he is beyond a shadow of a doubt protected by the Geneva conventions on treatment of civilians in occupied countries, and they specificly band sexual humiliation. He is so ashamed he is is suicidal.

    "I'm certain there are and I am content with covert missions and interrogations involving torcher."

    WTF is "torcher"? You in favor of setting people on fire too? All I can say is you are sick, and I've had enough, you belong in my Foes list next to my allstar list of right wing wackos many of them think torture is cool too.

    Probably should point out the obvious hypocrisy in supporting toppling Saddam because he tortured people and then saying its OK for the U.S. to torture people too.

    The only thing I wish for you in life is that someday you land in dark, dank prison cell and spend a few years of your life being tortured every day, you deserve it.

    "No, I'm no holding no war or information against you, nor have I committed any crimes punishable in such way."

    Like I said many of those people in Abu Graib were being held on suspicion of theft/looting. They hadn't been charged with anything, they hadn't been convicted of anything, so by your lame ass standard I can accuse you of theft and come over and arrest and torture you. Whats your address?

    Later dude, your posts aren't worth the bandwidth. Probably should consider not posting your B.S. for the rest of the world to see. Your embarrasing, you give Americans a bad name and they don't need any help in that regard.

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