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Xbox 2 To Feature Removeable Hard Drive

More details are emerging on Microsoft's next console, set to release this fall. GamesIndustry.biz has word that the Xbox 2 will have a removable hard drive as part of its feature set. From the article: "It's been assumed for some time that this means that Xbox 2 will be sold in at least two basic configurations - with and without a mass storage unit - and today's report seems to indicate that it will be possible to upgrade between those models by adding the hard drive."

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  1. Doubt this'll sell well by ThePolkapunk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I doubt that a HD as an accessory would sell well. Take a look at the PS2 drive. The only reason to buy it is for Final Fantasy XI. If Microsoft isn't including the HD in all of their versions of XBOX 2, developers will be less inclined to utilize it, and it'll be just as useless as the PS2 HD.

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  2. Spintering a market? by SunFan · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I thought the whole point to consoles was to sell a unified hardware platform. Making a hard drive an option seems like a headache for game developers. It would essentially make unit w/ harddrive a different platform to test with than unit w/o hard drive on top of the other platforms, such as Windows 98/2000/XP, next-gen GameCube, and PS3.

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    1. Re:Spintering a market? by mausmalone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the idea behind this is that everybody would have a portable drive, and you can carry your drive to your friend's house and plug it into their box, etc... like 5 GB memory cards.

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  3. Maybe... by drewmca · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My gut instinct, or rather hope, is the thing will come with enough mass storage to handle a lot of game saves and fulfill the purpose of the hd in the current xbox as far as streaming and other things are concerned. There are rumors that flash storage will be used, and this kind of makes sense as a smaller, 1-2GB drive in the base unit. That way, you can still use tricks like hd streaming, you can still expect that everyone can save to the HD, you can still (potentially) support backwards compatibility, and you can still expect that everyone can do custom soundtracks (and you have a place built in for settings like live accounts and what not).

    Then the HD add-on really only becomes important when you either want to load up a bunch more soundtracks or you want the box to become more of a media server, storing a lot of content or perhaps doing tivo-like stuff. That way, the HD isn't an "option" doomed to failure because of lack of dev support, but actually a real value-add feature that makes you box do entirely new things. Note that both Sony and MS are rabidly pursuing that whole tivo/media center angle in the next generation.

    The only question I have about using flash storage in the base unit is the speed of storage. I don't know how fast flash storage is in comparison to a low-end hard drive like the one in the box now. If it's a lot slower, then maybe the base unit is a bit more limited, at least as far as streaming and backwards compatibility are concerned.

    1. Re:Maybe... by Necroman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One problem they run into is finding a hard-drive manufacturer that still produces low capacity drives. Hard drive makers end of life series of hard drives as time goes on. It costs them money to maintain multiple designs of hard drives, so they tend to only keep a few in production at any given time.

      But with the almost guaranteed sales associated with the X-Box, I could see a hard-drive manufacturer bending over backwards for MS.

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  4. The 'Killer App'... by PhoenixOne · · Score: 4, Insightful
    People will buy the harddrive if there is a good reason for all that space. If Microsoft makes the XBox2 a "Home Media Center" then you will want to buy the biggest harddrive you can to record your TV shows and movies.

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  5. Doing a Sega? by chrisbeatty · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sega split their market with the Mega CD/32X addons back in the 90's, different platforms under similar guises lead to much confusion with Joe Public. This began to move Sega onto a slippery slope which ultimately leading them out of the console hardware business.

    Why don't MS just stick with a HDD as standard in the next gen Xbox, it's not like they're that expensive is it??
    The article states the developers "should not rely on its (the HDD) presence for their games" so why bother buying an expensive model unless you hack it, or is it for the home entertainment market MS are looking for?? The drive is not really for games but for videos, music...etc, I wonder...

  6. Re:Bitch Bitch Bitch by imitier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except for caching to reduce load times (e.g., Ninja Gaiden) and DLC for Live games, providing new levels long after a game was released (e.g., various Tom Clancy Live games). The map maker feature on the upcoming Time Splitters Future Perfect, which will allow users to create maps and share them over Live, will also presumably make use of the hard drive to allow Xbox users a lot more save space then the PS2 version will offer. So, all that and Blinx.

  7. Cost cutting by Momoru · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well its a good way for them to save money, i know my Xbox hard drive is only 2% full or something...i just hope the removable hard drive doesnt use some proprietary connection, because if its just a standard hard drive this would make it easy for anyone to add an 80GB drive, which cost about as much as an 8MB memory card from Sony these days. Really what Microsoft should do is make the Xbox work with thumbdrives standard, that way i can bring a gig of data from my xbox to a friend's as easily as i would on a memory card...plus it would hold enough for me to store downloaded levels etc...

    1. Re:Cost cutting by GeckoX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The only xbox owners I know that have anything significant on their HD have them filled with pirated games. I am entirely unsurprised at this move by MS.

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    2. Re:Cost cutting by Momoru · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the other cool (legitimate) thing to do with the hard drive is rip CD tracks to it...some games allow you to change the in game audio to this music you ripped.

  8. Xbox HDD = Microsoft's iPod killer? by Hobart · · Score: 2, Insightful
    There's yet to be a followup to the Dreamcast VMU and the Sony PocketStation for the PS/2 / Xbox / Gamecube generation of consoles. There were some rumors going around back in 2000 that Sony's next-gen PocketStation might run PalmOS -- those never panned out, even in Japan I'm not aware of an "enhanced feature" memory card.
    But a removeable hard drive iPod clone might be a killer app for the console-accessory market, especially if the high price of a hard-drive music player is offset by bundling it with the console in some configurations... Combined with Xbox Live for a music-store interface ...
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  9. Re:I wonder..... by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dude, if you think the X-Box controller, even the big meaty original one, is in any way "heavy", you really need to stop playing the PS2 and get some exercise. Little girls can probably beat you senseless right now.

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