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Gator CPO at the Department of Homeland Security

pcidevel writes "D. Reed Freeman, the "Chief Privacy Officer" of Claria Networks (formerly Gator), the creators of the pervasive spyware package GAIN, has been appointed to the Department of Homeland Security's "Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee"."

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  1. EULA by xsee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Really. Spyware? You dont read ALL the license agreement?

    1. Re:EULA by randallpowell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Perfect. The person in charge of a large spyware company is in charge of network security for our nation? What is next? A promoter of torture as Attorney General?

  2. The Onion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jeez, with a headline like that I thought I was on the Onion for a second there...

    1. Re:The Onion by luvirini · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Quite simple: Your privary rights with homeland security are about the same as you have with gator. Except that there is no way to uninstall Homeland security sort of total political shift. I am sure next year the easy wiretapping laws will include all PCs and that any company supplying an operating system or other sofware has to provide lawenforcement witha backdoor that does not require court orders to use. Thus: Spyware delivered by windowsupdate.

    2. Re:The Onion by sexistentialist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People here are starting to look like the Grunts in Halo, running around with their hands above their heads, screaming, "the demon is here!"

      While I agree that the appointment is disturbing, it doesn't mean that the government is going to install spyware onto every machine and start doing as they see fit. How many of you use some technology (Norton, AdBlock) to limit the amount of advertisements and popups you receive during the day? How many people do you think sniff the traffic coming off of their machine and make sure it's all as expected?

      The instant that something appears on your PC someone else will know about it and there will be an endless number of FAQs on how to make it benign.

      Remember that we're in the US, but PCs are global. You may find yourself feeling grateful to the hacker/cracker/crypto community at large for the work they'll be doing in the future to protect your privacy.

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  3. In other news by techsoldaten · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news, Dr. Jack Kevorkian has been appointed National Director of Health and Human Services, Kenneth Lay was appointed Director of the Treasury and Bill Gates was appointed CIO of the whole Federal Government.

    M

    1. Re:In other news by deglr6328 · · Score: 5, Funny

      *POP* "Did you know your country might be infected with TERRORISTS? You can help to protect your country by downloading policestate V2.0 from GovSoft today! Click here now!"

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  4. Hmm... I've an analogy for this... by Svartalf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't this like putting a fox in charge of the security for a henhouse?

    Honestly... DHS doesn't need to be worrying about this sort of tripe- they've got bigger fish to fry. Why in the HELL are they bothering with this when the things they're doing right at the moment wouldn't have done a damn thing to prevent 9/11 from occuring and wouldn't prevent a repeat?

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  5. what a joke! by grimholtz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ex-GAIN employees in the "Integrity Advisory Committee"??? That's like Richard Stallman working for the Patent Office!

    1. Re:what a joke! by luvirini · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good idea, we need to start a campaign to get him appointed as Commissioner for Patents in USPTO.

  6. In other news... by EEBaum · · Score: 4, Funny

    Governor of New Jersey to head Environmental Protection Agency

    Oh, wait...

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  7. Makes sense (in a sick sort of way) by Javert42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who knows more about data privacy than somebody who has compromised the privacy of millions?

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    1. Re:Makes sense (in a sick sort of way) by bigberk · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Who knows more about data privacy than somebody who has compromised the privacy of millions?
      I see what you're getting at, but I really don't think it applies in this case. Sure, blackhats / crackers make excellent security professionals who can apply their skills positively. But note that these are always people who first and foremost were interested in technical skills and intellectual stimulation from pushing security systems.

      On the other hand, the people who go into the field of marketing have one well defined goal: to manipulate and deceive consumers for profit. I have studied alongside these people when I made the huge mistake of wanting to take some marketing courses. The ideas I learned and people I met literally made me sick to my stomach.

      I do not know a single marketing person who is in it for academic interest -- those people tend to be psychologists. Marketers are business oriented and highly profit motivated to the extent where everything else (privacy, ethics, environment, culture) take back seat. These people sell their souls in pursuit of money.

      You might think I'm exaggerating. But look at the specific people in question. Who works at DoubleClick or Gator, unless they have a genuine professional interest in the wide reaching manipulation of the public for profit sake? I really have zero confidence in these people's s ability to make an honest, well meaning effort towards the rights and privacy of consumers and citizens.
  8. talk about oxymoron by bersl2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee"

    "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."

  9. Re:First Post by rd4tech · · Score: 4, Funny

    no, there are some times when you want things done righ the first time, like an surgeon operating, or food testing, or sex...

  10. Tell me this is a joke by bigberk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If this is for real (and I do trust Salon) this falls into the O.M.F.G. category. Someone slap me.

    I recently listened to a documentary on CBC radio about pervasive irony in today's world. It was an interesting program because they were suggesting that the political scene these days is like a living satire. It's just too weird... and this news about a spyware marketer being appointed to a privacy committee is just insane. I see four fingers!

  11. There's No Bottom by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I miss those heady days of yore, when there was still room for more outrage in my life. When I could stil be surprised by new examples of indifference, incompetence, and outright evil.

    These days, I am no longer surprised at no longer being surprised by the ghastly things this Administration routinely does.

    1. Re:There's No Bottom by Monkelectric · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yea, what is WITH this "fox guarding the hen house" complex the bush admin has?

      We have oil execs writing our energy policy, privacy invaders writing our privacy laws. Drug companies writing our drug-company laws... It's absolute madness.

      Are there any bushies out there who can defend this and tell me why I shouldn't be having a fit?

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    2. Re:There's No Bottom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Are there any bushies out there who can defend this and tell me why I shouldn't be having a fit?

      Well, the reasons are very complicated. First of all it is a good strategy because -

      Hey look over there, gays undermining the biblical foundation of marriage!

    3. Re:There's No Bottom by rhizome · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When all you have are foxes, everything looks like a henhouse.

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  12. CNET News.com by geekboy642 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Salon.com requires a soul-sucking registration link.
    Here's CNET News.com's version of the story:

    Adware maker joins federal privacy board
    Published: February 23, 2005, 5:19 PM PST
    By Declan McCullagh
    Staff Writer, CNET News.com
    TrackBack Print E-mail TalkBack

    An executive from Claria, formerly called Gator, will be one of 20 members of the committee, the department said Wednesday.

    "This committee will provide the department with important recommendations on how to further the department's mission while protecting the privacy of personally identifiable information of citizens and visitors of the United States," Nuala O'Connor Kelly, the department's chief privacy officer, said in a statement.

    Claria bundles its pop-up advertising software with ad-supported networks such as Kazaa. Recently, the privately held company has been trying to seek credibility by following stricter privacy guidelines and offering behavioral profiling services to its partners.
    In an e-mail message to CNET News.com, Kelly defended the inclusion of a Claria representative on the committee. "I am proud of, supportive of and grateful for those individuals in the public and private sector who are willing to take on the hard tasks, fight the good fight, and who surprise us with creative, fresh and unconventional thinking, and who make change where change is needed through their hard work and personal dedication," Kelly said.

    In the past, Claria's pop-up ad software has riled some users who claimed it was annoying, installed without permission, and not easy to delete. Publishers also were irked about pop-up ads for a rival's product appearing next to their own Web sites. Catalog retailer L.L. Bean sued Gator for alleged trademark infringement.

    Claria's representative on the Homeland Security privacy board is company Vice President D. Reed Freeman, a former Federal Trade Commission staff attorney. Other members include executives from Intel, Computer Associates International, IBM, Oracle and the Cato Institute.
    Kelly said Freeman will "bring his courage and conviction to the board, and will contribute productively--and constructively--to the board's and the public's dialogue on privacy and homeland security."

    The committee is tasked with providing "external expert advice to the secretary and the chief privacy officer on programmatic, policy, operational and technological issues that affect privacy, data integrity and data interoperability."

    In February 2003, Gator settled a high-profile case brought by The Washington Post, The New York Times, Dow Jones and other media companies. Terms of that deal were quiet, but Claria appears to have stopped delivering pop-ups to those publishers' sites.
    Claria did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    CNET News.com's Stefanie Olsen contributed to this report.

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    1. Re:CNET News.com by Raul+Acevedo · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Salon.com requires a soul-sucking registration link.

      Oh please grow up.

      It may come as a complete shock to some people here, but some companies have to make a living somehow. And some of those companies, like Salon.com, have been struggling for quite a while and are not hyper-rich media conglomerates who can afford to not try whatever they can to make an honest living.

      You do not have a God-given right to free content provided at the expense of the work of others. (And no I don't care if Salon.com didn't write the original article, they provide plenty of home brewed articles and opinion which I think are totally worth it.) Deal with it.

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    2. Re:CNET News.com by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Honestly i wouldn't care if all the ad-supported content left the internet.

      Would the author of this post, and everyone who modded him "Interesting," please look up at the top of your browser window and tell me what you see?

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    3. Re:CNET News.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      please look up at the top of your browser window and tell me what you see?

      nothing

    4. Re:CNET News.com by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously, what am I supposed to see? I am running Firefox and popup blocking and adblock... so I don't see any ads, if that is what you were referring to.

      Thank you to you and all the other clever people who bragged about your ad-blocking software. Please remember that the poster I quoted said he "wouldn't care if all the ad-supported content left the internet." The mere fact that there are ads there for your oh-so-marvelous Firefox to block means that Slashdot is, in fact, "ad-supported content." Hence the poster, and those who agreed with him, wouldn't mind if Slashdot disappeared. But they like it enough to read it and post here.

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  13. Claria has a Chief Privacy Officer? by Garabito · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It sounds as authentic as The Ministry of Truth.

    Actually, "Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee" sounds much more like Ministry of Truth.

    1. Re:Claria has a Chief Privacy Officer? by bigberk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm actually very relieved that slashdot readership recognizes, as I do, the intense parallels to Orwell's 1984 (Newspeak, doublespeak, etc.) This is encouraging as right now our society is still free thinking enough to see the attempts at manipulating us for what they are -- ridiculous lies to the public. There is cause for concern though, this is how it starts, and by the time it has caught on (unchallenged) people are no longer aware of the daily irony, and satire turns into daily life.

  14. Only in America by AmoHongos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A spyware company has a "chief privacy officer?!" What's next, a security-obssessed government that makes us less secure? Oh, wait...

    Seriously, though, I can almost see the logic in this appointment. One thing spyware companies know is computer security. They defeat it all the time. I'm surprised the fine folks from Cool Web Search weren't appointed.

    On the other hand, the more cynical side of me sees how reminiscent this is of early 20th century American politics, when the government appointed Big Business leaders to commitees on workers' rights. Money and connections will buy you anything.

  15. It's official now. by Tethys_was_taken · · Score: 4, Funny

    All your base are belong to Claria.

  16. do something about it... by epanastasi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All I see posted are stupid remarks about how ironic this is... but nobody seems to want to do anything about it.

    /. has enough people reading it to destroy the bandwidth of half the servers out there, but it looks like nobody is going to take this as a serious threat to privacy and call up their congressman or write a letter/email to major news networks, or anything else that will change things...

    It's a sad day seeing this article exist, but it will be an even sadder day when 90% of these comments are scored "Funny" and we are doomed to sit idly by our world is taken away from us... thanks guys, i appreciate it.

    1. Re:do something about it... by Mark_MF-WN · · Score: 5, Insightful
      And what would you have people do? Lots of us DO email, write, and telephone our representatives. But no letter, phonecall, or email has even a fraction of the power that a $10,000 "campaign contribution" does.

      Campaign contributions mean that political representation goes to those with the most money to donate. Democracy died long ago.

    2. Re:do something about it... by bigberk · · Score: 4, Funny
      All I see posted are stupid remarks about how ironic this is... but nobody seems to want to do anything about it.
      Sorry man, I'm Canadian and this one is your problem. Trust me, it looks ten times as ironic from this side of the border. (waves) hi!
    3. Re:do something about it... by Vo0k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Already happened. Face it: We lost it already. No amount of calling will supersede a well placed "donation". No amount of cries will change the fact that the people at power will take really good care that ALL the presidential candidates sit deep in their pockets, and no matter who gets elected, power remains in the same hands. Democracy is dead, elections are just a meaningless circus for entertainment of the public, the real power is at hands of those with real money.

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    4. Re:do something about it... by Mac+Degger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is sadly too true: the moment campaign contributions were classified as 'free speech', the rich people effectively had more than one vote, and democracy as most people understand it these days has gone down the toilet in the US.

      With all the wierd shit going down, I really don't get why there hasn't been more demonstrations or even a revolution across the pond...

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    5. Re:do something about it... by dustmite · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But (assuming the election weren't rigged), the American people voted this administration into power again. The American people chose for things like this to happen to them (all of these things have been crafted by the current administration, and I somehow doubt things would be going down the same, or half as badly, if the election had gone the other way - remember that none of these things are necessarily "inevitable", they're highly dependent on who is in power, there have been many similar 'low points' during the previous century and it is possible to come out of them if you're not so complacent that you just accept things as inevitable). I think most people are simply uninformed, and don't care that they're uninformed. Thus one must conclucde that the root cause of the problems here is that majority of the American public are not competent enough to choose their leaders properly.

  17. Rewarding incompetence, as usual by godless+dave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What do you expect? George Tenet got a medal for being wrong about WMDs in Iraq; Paul Bremer got one for ignoring warnings about the Iraqi insurgency; and Condaleeza Rice got promoted for ignoring warnings about Al Qaeda and being wrong about Iraq. This administration rewards incompetence and duplicity while punishing competence and honesty.

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    1. Re:Rewarding incompetence, as usual by hachete · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your Bush administration rewards loyalty to Bush. That is all. Anything else is purely secondary. An administration of sycophants, toadies and suckups. Truly, what an example to set the world and the kids of today.

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    2. Re:Rewarding incompetence, as usual by HangingChad · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'm always amazed when Bush supporters act like they're part of some noble cause, some grand struggle that takes them down the road less traveled.

      Regardless of his motives you can let the results speak for themselves. We've spent 300 billion on a war they told us would cost 50 billion at the most, supposedly for WMD's but there weren't any. And we're still sinking 4 billion a month into that hole with no end in sight. The No Child Left Behind act was based on the Houston Miracle, which later turned out to be faked data. Since Bush took office we've seen our government go into massive debt, seen more American jobs shipped overseas than any other time in the history of the country, we've watched our personal liberties and freedoms disappear and watched our relationship with foreign allies and our position in the world deteriorate.

      For those who claim the mantel of Christianity this administration certainly has no love of the truth. They lie because they're being true to their character when they do so.

      Perhaps it's you who should think about re-examining your committment to the truth.

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  18. Nuala O'Connor Kelly? by js7a · · Score: 4, Informative

    The D.H.S.'s own "chief privacy officer" used to work for DoubleClick.

  19. What the heck is going on at homeland security. by killjoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They hired a deputy CIO who did not have a degree. More accurately she had a degree from on a non accredited diploma mill check it out it looks like a church.

    Normally I'd have no problems with a deputy CIO not having a degree but apparently the dept of homeland security did not check out their deputy CIO carefully enough and now they had to "put her on leave".

    Now we find out they are putting the fox in charge of the hen house.

    Something is seriously askew at this dept. How can we trust these guys to safeguard our country when they have shown such awful judgement?

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  20. Re:First Post by Senjutsu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This might almost make sense if this guy had served in a technical capacity with Claria/Gator, but here's his job description, from a press-release they put out upon hiring him:

    Claria Corporation, www.claria.com, today announced that D. Reed Freeman, Jr. will assume the position of Chief Privacy Officer and Vice President of Regulatory and Legislative Affairs for the company. Mr. Freeman, a partner in the Washington, D.C. law firm Collier Shannon Scott, PLLC, will spearhead Claria's continued commitment to industry-leading online advertising privacy practices. He will also represent Claria's interests both in Washington and internationally, coordinating Claria's efforts on policy matters.

    In other words, he's a lobbyist. He knows fuck all about the inner workings of spyware software, and this isn't at all analogous to hiring an ex-hacker to evaluate your security.

  21. Re:uh.. by Vo0k · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, uh...

    My suggestions:
    Hannibal Lecter for the national food and agriculture comission.
    Osama Bin Laden for air transport dept.
    Saddam Hussein for human rights jury.
    Michael Jackson for child abuse prevention network CEO.
    And of course Bill Gates for president of ISO.

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  22. and in other news by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mr. Osamma Bin Ladin is appointed the head of the homeland defence department.... I mean, who better to tell us how a terrorist thinks?

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    1. Re:and in other news by Quothz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Claria and other similar companies have a legal business
      I disagree. They just haven't been shut down yet.
      To wit: Let's say I call up a particularly dim secretary at IBM. I claim to be with a consulting firm, and need access to certain files. This person gives me the password to his or her boss' account. I log in and copy everything I can get my hands on.
      When tried, I explain that I had permission from a company representative to take those files. This would probably not go over well.
      Claria uses similar tactics, taking advantage of stupid people by making vague statements, in order to gain access to private information. In my mind, there's little difference. EULAs require a greater level of literacy than many computer users possess; taking advantage of this fact is, in my opinion, not a legal method of doing business.

  23. Re:uh.. by d474 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A former Corporate data gatherer of consumer information being appointed to "Data Privacy" Czar?

    Why, that would be like appointing a Torture Advocate to Attorney General...oh wait...Alberto Gonazales

    That would be iike appointing a person that misadvised a Nation to start a war that broke down International Relations to a postion that requires her to Strengthen International Relations...oh wait...Condeleeza Rice

    That would be like having a former CEO of company that derives it's revenue from war be elected to a political office that can Strongly influence War Power making decisions...oh wait...Dick Cheney

    To answer your question, no they aren't shitting you. They are shitting ON you. All of us, actually.

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  24. RMS might be helpful by r6144 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Given his enormous software knowledge, RMS can probably identify more prior arts in patent applications than the average patent examiner, thus striking down more of these applications.

    Unfortunately, I think quite a lot of patent applications cover ideas that any expert can think of in three hours but were never used before because no one apart from the applicant bothered to use them, which means they probably have no prior art. A patent examiner cannot do much more than an ordinary citizen when the problem lies in the law itself rather than its enforcement.

  25. Committee member list by Frodo+Crockett · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the DHS itself:

    Members appointed for the inaugural term of the DHS Privacy Advisory Committee are:

    Joseph Alhadeff, Vice President and Chief Privacy Officer, Oracle Corporation, Washington, DC

    Ramon Barquin, President, Barquin International, Bethesda, MD

    J. Howard Beales, Associate Professor, The George Washington University, Arlington, VA

    D. Reed Freeman, Chief Privacy Officer and Vice President, Claria Corporation, Arlington, VA

    James W. Harper, Editor/Executive Director, Privacilla.org & Director of Information Policy Studies, Cato Institute, Washington, DC

    Kirk Herath, Chief Privacy Officer & Associate General Counsel, Nationwide, Columbus, OH

    David A. Hoffman, Group Counsel and Director of Privacy, Intel Corporation, Hillsboro, OR

    Lance Hoffman, Distinguished Research Professor, The George Washington University, Washington, DC

    Tara Lemmey, Chief Executive Officer, Lens Ventures, San Francisco, CA

    Joseph Leo, Vice President, SAIC, Vienna, VA

    John Marsh, Distinguished Professor of Law, George Mason University School of Law, Winchester, VA

    Joanne McNabb, Chief, Office of Privacy Protection, California Department of Consumer Affairs, Sacramento, CA

    Charles Palmer, Department Group Manager, Security, Networking & Privacy, IBM Corporation, Yorktown Heights, NY

    Richard Purcell, Chief Executive Officer, Corporate Privacy Group, Nordland, WA

    Paul Samuel Rosenzweig, Senior Legal Research Fellow, The Heritage Foundation, Washington, DC

    John Thomas Sabo, Manager, Security, Privacy, and Trust Initiatives, Computer Associates, Herndon, VA

    James Sheehan, General Counsel, Milton Hershey School, Hershey, PA

    Lisa Sotto, Partner, Head of Regulatory Privacy & Information Management Practice Group, Hunton & Williams, New York, NY

    Michael Turner, President and Senior Scholar, Information Policy Institute, New York, NY

    Samuel Wright, Senior Vice President, Government Relations, Cendant Corporation, Washington, DC

    I can't say I like Freeman being on the committee, but a quick glance at the rest of the list makes me feel a lot better.

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    1. Re:Committee member list by IceRa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Looks like they need some sort of "black sheep" in the committee. Or a dim candle around all these bright ones...

      Greetings, Ice

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  26. I get it by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I get it. It's like when a company hires a black hat to help them figure out where the holes are so they can plug them...

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  27. Re:Hmm... I've an analogy for this... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You are part of the new "ownership society". This means your status of 'citizen' is now exchanged for the much more valuable cosideration as 'customer'!

    I'm sure you'll appreciate the opportunity to abandon 'community' for 'market', once you see the incredible opportunity it affords for profits! Besides, we have already managed the deal for you!

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  28. And people wonder why... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And people wonder why HST blew his brains out.

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  29. Do something? by Duke+Boo+Boo+of+Ouch · · Score: 5, Informative

    So, for those who would like to take the initiative to tell these fuckers something: Email: privacy@dhs.gov Phone: 202-772-9848 Fax: 202-772-5036 It might matter, it might not. But writing an email and picking up the phone is easy as hell. I'll take both, thank you.

  30. It's a kleptocracy!! by johansalk · · Score: 5, Insightful


    "I am proud of, supportive of and grateful for those individuals in the public and private sector who are willing to take on the hard tasks, fight the good fight, and who surprise us with creative, fresh and unconventional thinking, and who make change where change is needed through their hard work and personal dedication," Kelly said. Kelly said Freeman will "bring his courage and conviction to the board, and will contribute productively--and constructively--to the board's and the public's dialogue on privacy and homeland security."

    What I find most outrageous is such talk typical of this administration to lie, and lie, and lie; So now a software that installed itself without permission, was not easy to delete, and annoyed the hell out of people is something to be praised for and proud of as testimony of "courage and conviction", "willingness to take on the hard tasks", "willingness to fight the good fight", "creative, fresh and unconventional thinking"?

    What about thieves? They're pretty much the same; are we going to admire trespassers and looters?

    Damn this kleptocracy; damn it!

  31. Re:uh.. by mrjb · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...And George W. Bush for president of the USA.

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  32. Punch a Monkey by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Funny

    No the Secret Service will stop you if you try that.

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  33. Re:Hmm... I've an analogy for this... by kalidasa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not customer, consumer. A customer expects service. A consumer just devourers whatever is shoved down his throat.